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[av196vad]

guybrush threepwad wrote...

pathetic that bioware won't even address this

Agreed. I can't get beyond 3600 EMS without playing multiplayer. Getting 5000 for the optimal ending is impossible.
I'm deeply disappointed in you BioWare. I expected better from you. <_<

[BeefoTheBold]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

BeefoTheBold wrote...

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

As it is, it is full of nothing but misinformation. People have datamined the crap out of the game, and as it is, there is an insufficient amount of war assets to get the "Optimal" ending with Shepard living. Last, but not least, I'm going to quote Brian Gamble's previous interview about Multiplayer:


http://www.nowgamer....ry_details.html

"Of course you don’t have to play multiplayer, you can choose to play
all the side-quests in single-player and do all that stuff you’ll
still get all the same endings and same information, it’s just a
totally different way of playing"


Guess what, it's STILL MANDATORY. REMOVE THE DAMN STICKY!

The word you're looking for is "lie".

If there's not enough war assets in the single player campaign to get the optimal ending, then the sticky is a LIE. It is not "misleading" or filled with "misinformation" as others have said.

Aren't the words pretty much the same?

Not really. They carry a different degree of "badness" if you will. It is possible to mislead someone without telling an untruth.

A lie is a deliberate and purposeful false statement. It may seem like nitpicking to you, but to me this is a very important difference.

Bioware blowing smoke about how "Shepard's experience is intended to be a singleplayer one" while simultaneously working on a MP component to Mass Effect 3 in secret is misleading, but technically not an actual lie.

Saying, "You can get the optimal ending with single player alone" is an outright lie.

[Prism]

av196vad wrote...

guybrush threepwad wrote...

pathetic that bioware won't even address this

Agreed. I can't get beyond 3600 EMS without playing multiplayer. Getting 5000 for the optimal ending is impossible.
I'm deeply disappointed in you BioWare. I expected better from you. <_<

However you want to spin it - best ending for synthesis available, or best ending to see Shep - it isn't 5000, it's 4000. If you require 5000 it's still due to single player decisions.

[Emerald Rift]

guybrush threepwad wrote...

pathetic that bioware won't even address this

With you on that one, they better address it soon because I won't do another playthrough until I know I get the best (in my opinion) ending without MP.

[Acktimeus]

I think its possible to get ems of 5k.
I was able to get around 6700 Effective military strength, with only one multiplayer character imported. My character only added around 75 EMS, all the rest of the points were from doing every quest and talking to every npc i find.

It was a character imported from mass effect 2 which was also came from mass effect 1, which might have an effect on the game, but im not really sure.

[Lunatic LK47]

Acktimeus wrote...

I think its possible to get ems of 5k.
I was able to get around 6700 Effective military strength, with only one multiplayer character imported. My character only added around 75 EMS, all the rest of the points were from doing every quest and talking to every npc i find.

It was a character imported from mass effect 2 which was also came from mass effect 1, which might have an effect on the game, but im not really sure.

This topic is saying SINGLE-PLAYER ONLY files are NOT able to get 4000K EMS. It is IMPOSSIBLE.

[Prism]

Everyone who says he got a bigger EMS than claimed possible should post a screenshot with the overview of their assets. I'm sure we can pinpoints the anomalies that way.

[lawp79]

Stamina Rose wrote...

guybrush threepwad wrote...

pathetic that bioware won't even address this

With you on that one, they better address it soon because I won't do another playthrough until I know I get the best (in my opinion) ending without MP.

I am with you both on this, the endings are bad enough IMO, but the fact I can't get the best ending as the game is irks me. In another forum a poster claimed it was possible to get the ending we require on a second playthrough with an me3 imported character but I do not see how this can be the case.

[jussyr]

I wrote to EA customer service via the "email us" link on the bottom, and got back a response saying they were aware of this issue and were working on fixing it. Since this was a canned response, I'm inclined to be a little sceptical that they actually are, and would encourage other people whose games are screwed up because of this issue to email in as well, but still, seems hopeful to me.

[Lunatic LK47]

jussyr wrote...

I wrote to EA customer service via the "email us" link on the bottom, and got back a response saying they were aware of this issue and were working on fixing it. Since this was a canned response, I'm inclined to be a little sceptical that they actually are, and would encourage other people whose games are screwed up because of this issue to email in as well, but still, seems hopeful to me.

A little is a big understatement. When has EA ever done anything right?

[digby69]

I doubt the op's request is ever gona happen

[Alex_SM]

OhoniX wrote...

@OhoniX There is an ending that requires 1000 more EMS than a maxed green bar.

That's just silly then. If they have a green bar like that then filling it completely should be all that you need to get the best results. If you need more than that then the bar should be longer.

That aside, I'm not convinced that you still couldn't reach the right number, as I missed out on at least a few resource opportunities that may well have pushed me to 8000 non-adjusted. It still probably wouldn't have changed the ending I chose, which was Bulbasaur.

It's been prtty much confirmed that there are around 7500 war assets. So it's impossible to reach 4000 by playing only the SP campaign. 

[tbb033]

That sticky might have just been misinformed when it first went up, but the way it's stayed there despite being disproven, and the way its locked to prevent replies, that just smacks of dishonesty, not necessarily on the part of Mr. Lee, maybe he thought he was posting the truth, but perhaps on Bioware as a whole.

[Lalalandia]

Still no update by Jarrett Lee to reflect the truth of the situation? Shame on him and Bioware both.

[AlanC9]

BeefoTheBold wrote...


Saying, "You can get the optimal ending with single player alone" is an outright lie.

Only if you actually believe that EMS 4000 ending is optimal. I don't believe that -- I don't have a Shep who is Renegade enough to deliberately pick the red ending if the others are available. So if I said that you can get the optimal ending without MP, I wouldn't be lying.

It would, however, be an extremely misleading thing to say.

[Lunatic LK47]

Bumping.

[Lunatic LK47]

Bumping.

[Gatt9]

Lalalandia wrote...

Still no update by Jarrett Lee to reflect the truth of the situation? Shame on him and Bioware both.

Actually,  it's extremely telling.  At this point I think we can safely infer that a department manager under the direction of EA altered the War Assets without the team's knowledge,  and they learned of it when we discovered it.  Hence,  Jarret's post,  and the lack of acknowledgement of the issue,  because Bioware doesn't want to say that someone made the decision to do exactly what I said they'd do without telling them.

The other option is that they collectively decided to lie through their teeth,  which while possible,  is highly unlikely.

So IMO it's that someone up the foodchain altered the values before sending it to replication,  and never bothered to tell the team.  Which,  again IMO,  is testimony to where future priorities really lie,  more interest in shafting the SP people in favor of used-game-DRM.

Modifié par Gatt9, 27 mars 2012 - 02:18 .

[Portia Cousland]

This is absolutely frustrating. I have 2 Sheps waiting in the wings for them to fix this screw up. WTH is taking so long BioWare?

[Ericus]

Another possibility - IF the Indoctrination Theory is correct, that would mean Bioware always intended to release a follow-up DLC. In that case, the only thing that might matter at this stage is if you picked the Destroy ending or not. Since the EMS bar maxes out around 3000, and IF (again) Jarrett was serious, maybe that's all you need to successfully finish the DLC. Seeing Shepard breathe at 4000/5000 EMS might only be a teaser for those who really went the extra mile with multiplayer...

[BeefoTheBold]

Exactly how long does it take for Bioware to verify/respond to the fact that they were either wrong or lied that you could get the optimal ending in a single playthrough of the main campaign and update their official boards?

[bluewolv1970]

apparently lies told by members of the Bioware staff are acceptable under the new forum rules...and given that the thread is stickied, they are encouraged...

[Rogue Unit]

The lies are the exact reason the retake movement is campaigning so hard against Bioware.

[bluewolv1970]

Rogue Unit wrote...

The lies are the exact reason the retake movement is campaigning so hard against Bioware.

exactly

[FirstBlood XL]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

apparently lies told by members of the Bioware staff are acceptable under the new forum rules...and given that the thread is stickied, they are encouraged...