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[Lee T]

Yep a friend of mine doesn't have internet access at home, he will never see all the ending (even if patched he won't be able to download the patch without transporting his console to a friends' home with internet).

[Lalalandia]

Bumpity bump! Come on Bioware admit the truth!

[Kub666]

Lee T wrote...
Yep a friend of mine doesn't have internet access at home, he will never see all the ending (even if patched he won't be able to download the patch without transporting his console to a friends' home with internet).

I understand the reasoning, and in general I agree that it may happen. but on the other hand Origin needs online activation, so I guess this friend does have access to the internet anyway, somehow?

The only one thing that Origin has on Steam is offline mode. It works with no problems at all for me.

[iEscaflowne]

Kub666 wrote...

Lee T wrote...
Yep a friend of mine doesn't have internet access at home, he will never see all the ending (even if patched he won't be able to download the patch without transporting his console to a friends' home with internet).

I understand the reasoning, and in general I agree that it may happen. but on the other hand Origin needs online activation, so I guess this friend does have access to the internet anyway, somehow?

The only one thing that Origin has on Steam is offline mode. It works with no problems at all for me.

Reading comprehension at its finest.

Modifié par iEscaflowne, 27 mars 2012 - 05:05 .

[Darth Wolfenbarg]

KBomb wrote...

Darth Wolfenbarg wrote...

You can easily get all three endings with no tampering or multiplayer at all. The 4000 EMS addition to one of the endings is just a bonus, it isn't so important that it should have absolutely been included. Unless certain ending theories are true, of course.

 
Well, a lot of cut scenes aren't important. A lot of the bits of dialogue isn't important. The love scenes aren't important. Banter between squad members isn't important. However, it adds something to the game. It adds to the experience.


Some people on here tend to have the mindset of, “Why is this such a big deal! Watch it on youtube!” (not talking about you, but lots of people have said this.)


Ugh, that is so asinine. I don't want to watch it on youtube, I want to watch it in the freaking game, the one that I purchased. How can Shepard taking a breath of life at the end, especially after that dumb kid told him he'd die if he chose to destroy it not be important? It's important to me. It's important to others.


Point is, something like that should not be tied to MP, nothing in the single player game should be tied into MP. Especially since they stated that MP would not take any experience away from us in SP. The exact phrase they used in an interview was, “It's optional. There's nothing walled off to you because you didn't play multiplayer.” That is a lie. They should answer to it.

It was a secret addition to an ending, not a full ending itself. If that were the case, I would be incensed as well, but it isn't, so I'm not. Shepard died in every single ending, that was Bioware's intention. Allowing him/her to live is a secret extra, and you've always had to do something extra to get a secret ending in a game. And honestly, unless the indoctrination theory is true, it isn't as big as barring a full ending like synthesis unless you played online.

[azerSheppard]

iEscaflowne wrote...

Kub666 wrote...

Lee T wrote...
Yep a friend of mine doesn't have internet access at home, he will never see all the ending (even if patched he won't be able to download the patch without transporting his console to a friends' home with internet).

I understand the reasoning, and in general I agree that it may happen. but on the other hand Origin needs online activation, so I guess this friend does have access to the internet anyway, somehow?

The only one thing that Origin has on Steam is offline mode. It works with no problems at all for me.

Reading comprehension at its finest.

classic drone moment:lol:

[Gtacatalina]

Darth Wolfenbarg wrote...

KBomb wrote...

Darth Wolfenbarg wrote...

You can easily get all three endings with no tampering or multiplayer at all. The 4000 EMS addition to one of the endings is just a bonus, it isn't so important that it should have absolutely been included. Unless certain ending theories are true, of course.

 
Well, a lot of cut scenes aren't important. A lot of the bits of dialogue isn't important. The love scenes aren't important. Banter between squad members isn't important. However, it adds something to the game. It adds to the experience.


Some people on here tend to have the mindset of, “Why is this such a big deal! Watch it on youtube!” (not talking about you, but lots of people have said this.)


Ugh, that is so asinine. I don't want to watch it on youtube, I want to watch it in the freaking game, the one that I purchased. How can Shepard taking a breath of life at the end, especially after that dumb kid told him he'd die if he chose to destroy it not be important? It's important to me. It's important to others.


Point is, something like that should not be tied to MP, nothing in the single player game should be tied into MP. Especially since they stated that MP would not take any experience away from us in SP. The exact phrase they used in an interview was, “It's optional. There's nothing walled off to you because you didn't play multiplayer.” That is a lie. They should answer to it.

It was a secret addition to an ending, not a full ending itself. If that were the case, I would be incensed as well, but it isn't, so I'm not. Shepard died in every single ending, that was Bioware's intention. Allowing him/her to live is a secret extra, and you've always had to do something extra to get a secret ending in a game. And honestly, unless the indoctrination theory is true, it isn't as big as barring a full ending like synthesis unless you played online.

I'm sorry Darth, we will have to agree to disagree.
I was told along with everybody else that we would get the most optimal ending on single player only. ME after all is a single player franchise, so I was relieved to hear this from Bioware (I've tried playing multiplayer and MMO's and I really don't like them).
To me the most optimal ending means the most desirable ending, which to me means having my Shep take a breath at the end.
I personally think  Bioware cut so much of the game for DLC's that somebody didn't do their Single Player EMS sums right.
The thing I'm most annoyed about though is the lack of Dev support about this.

[AlanC9]

Lee T wrote...

Yep a friend of mine doesn't have internet access at home, he will never see all the ending (even if patched he won't be able to download the patch without transporting his console to a friends' home with internet).

What about a USB stick? Would that work?

[AlanC9]

Gtacatalina wrote...
I was told along with everybody else that we would get the most optimal ending on single player only. ME after all is a single player franchise, so I was relieved to hear this from Bioware (I've tried playing multiplayer and MMO's and I really don't like them).
To me the most optimal ending means the most desirable ending, which to me means having my Shep take a breath at the end.

Shep' survival is really worth committing genocide and murdering EDI?  (unless you'd already exterminated the geth, of course) I'm not trying to start an argument here; just idle curiosity about the thought process.

Doesn't matter for the actual topic.

[Kub666]

azerSheppard wrote...

iEscaflowne wrote...

Reading comprehension at its finest.

classic drone moment:lol:

Oh shi... WHERE'S MY COFFEE???

[GME_ThorianCreeper]

Bumping this back to the first page because Jarrett Lee's sticky is still there.

[jess05]

Kub666 wrote...

Lee T wrote...
Yep a friend of mine doesn't have internet access at home, he will never see all the ending (even if patched he won't be able to download the patch without transporting his console to a friends' home with internet).

I understand the reasoning, and in general I agree that it may happen. but on the other hand Origin needs online activation, so I guess this friend does have access to the internet anyway, somehow?

The only one thing that Origin has on Steam is offline mode. It works with no problems at all for me.

No Steams offline is far superior.
If you have the Ashes DLC, go offline it it works.  But Go offline then unplug your PC from the internet completely.

Origin will not let you access the DLC until a connection is established.  Origins Offline mode, is still online. Its just offline for Friends etc.  A bit misleading as it still needs to contact servers to verify DLC content, even in offline mode.

Steam on the other hand, requires you to launch the game 1 time. You can then completely unplug the internet, and play your games in offline mode without issue.

Modifié par jess05, 27 mars 2012 - 08:13 .

[KBomb]

Darth Wolfenbarg wrote...

It was a secret addition to an ending, not a full ending itself. If that were the case, I would be incensed as well, but it isn't, so I'm not. Shepard died in every single ending, that was Bioware's intention. Allowing him/her to live is a secret extra, and you've always had to do something extra to get a secret ending in a game. And honestly, unless the indoctrination theory is true, it isn't as big as barring a full ending like synthesis unless you played online.

Whether or not it's a secret ending or an intended ending isn't the case. Neither is doing something for a secret ending. I don't mind working for it, or doing something in-game to achieve it. The point is: it shouldn't be attached to multi-player. They stated that by single-player alone, we would not miss out on any content. That is an untruth.


No single player content should be blocked off because of MP. You should not be punished for not playing MP. You said Bioware never intended for Shepard to live. Then why put Deep Breath in there to begin with? If it's not intended, leave it out all together. The fact is they put it in there, so it was an intended act. Shepard living isn't some easter egg. It's a big deal. Especially considering it's tied to one ending alone.

[KBomb]

AlanC9 wrote...

Shep' survival is really worth committing genocide and murdering EDI?  (unless you'd already exterminated the geth, of course) I'm not trying to start an argument here; just idle curiosity about the thought process.

Doesn't matter for the actual topic.

I consider it no worse that forcing billions of organics into hybrid robots against their will. I wouldn't hold EDI or geth above the life of an organic. That's just my opinion, of course. Everyone will have their own reasoning for which ever ending they chose. Personally, I think all three options are absurd and my Shepard would have never considered either without a fight. I guess that's for another discussion.

[Gtacatalina]

AlanC9 wrote...

Gtacatalina wrote...
I was told along with everybody else that we would get the most optimal ending on single player only. ME after all is a single player franchise, so I was relieved to hear this from Bioware (I've tried playing multiplayer and MMO's and I really don't like them).
To me the most optimal ending means the most desirable ending, which to me means having my Shep take a breath at the end.

Shep' survival is really worth committing genocide and murdering EDI?  (unless you'd already exterminated the geth, of course) I'm not trying to start an argument here; just idle curiosity about the thought process.

Doesn't matter for the actual topic.

Hi Alan

That's the way my main Shep rolls( I like to role play)

Modifié par Gtacatalina, 27 mars 2012 - 08:37 .

[Darth Garrus]

As I've posted in another thread, I think that could be easily resolved by an "Opt-Out Optional Patch".

You could just accept to opt-out of Multiplayer for that campaign, and the patch would recalculate the amount of points given by each war asset. So, if an asset was worth 50 points before, now it could be worth 125, for example. In the end, SP and MP could achieve the same effectiveness, thus, allowing everybody to reach the same endings and everything.

Being optional, and maybe working only in a "campaign to campaign" basis, you could still play MP if you wish. But every player could get the same chances, regardless of MP. I, for one, hate to play MP. And I think I should get the possibility to achieve the same heights.

So, an "Opt-Out Optional Patch" seems to me to be the best way.

[Lunatic LK47]

Bumping.

[Lunatic LK47]

Bump

[JexyG]

No kidding, I did the DLC and every single thing you could possibly do up to 100% and every side mission and yet... at 50% war assets, I didn't get the "best" out of the crap endings. Now I have it up in the 7k range and I'm not close to done so I guess I will get to see this so called "best" ending... of course Joker for some unknown reason still ran away so I'm still screwed?

[Krogangreetings]

I asked one of devs Manveer Heir on twitter about a patch to disable the 50% thing politely as you can in 150 words or less

and all I got back was a semi sarcastic "don't go online then" response missing the point of what I was asking

not that I have a problem with him as he probably has to deal with angry fans all day but wasn't much help

[KBomb]

Krogangreetings wrote...

I asked one of devs Manveer Heir on twitter about a patch to disable the 50% thing politely as you can in 150 words or less

and all I got back was a semi sarcastic "don't go online then" response missing the point of what I was asking

not that I have a problem with him as he probably has to deal with angry fans all day but wasn't much help

He seriously said that?

[Krogangreetings]

KBomb wrote...

Krogangreetings wrote...

I asked one of devs Manveer Heir on twitter about a patch to disable the 50% thing politely as you can in 150 words or less

and all I got back was a semi sarcastic "don't go online then" response missing the point of what I was asking

not that I have a problem with him as he probably has to deal with angry fans all day but wasn't much help

He seriously said that?

yeah the more or less the exact quote is:

Me: can we get a patch that disables EMS -50% as I have no desire to play online and would like to se it reflected in my game

Him: Then don't play MP, it'll be like you never go online

Me: I get that but it's the minus 50% thing that effects my readiness

Him: Right, which will always be there just get more resources to make up for it


at this point some else joined in and pointed out that there are not enough resources for SP only and the conversation stopped

Modifié par Krogangreetings, 27 mars 2012 - 11:56 .

[Lee T]

AlanC9 wrote...

Lee T wrote...

Yep a friend of mine doesn't have internet access at home, he will never see all the ending (even if patched he won't be able to download the patch without transporting his console to a friends' home with internet).

What about a USB stick? Would that work?

No idea. I don't even know where are the patch on the console's drive. The simpler solution is for him to bring his console to an internet home plug it and patch all his games and buy all the DLCs he wants. But he never tried.

His loss I know, but it's still a shame that the wide availability of internet as made everybod a bit lazier including game developing companies.

[KBomb]

Krogangreetings wrote...


yeah the more or less the exact quote is:

Me: can we get a patch that disables EMS -50% as I have no desire to play online and would like to se it reflected in my game

Him: Then don't play MP, it'll be like you never go online

Me: I get that but it's the minus 50% thing that effects my readiness

Him: Right, which will always be there just get more resources to make up for it


at this point some else joined in and pointed out that there are not enough resources for SP only and the conversation stopped

Christ. They cannot possibly be so blind to the issue.

[tishyw]

Bioware, please respond to this issue!