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[haroldhardluck]

For me the perfect ending is for Alistair and Anora to marry and I got that ending once. However I just played DAO again to get that ending with a male character. Despite all I could do, I never got Alistair to agree to let Loghain live which is the requirement for this ending. I thought that 100 like and max Coercion and the hardening of Alistair was what it took but apparently not. I went rhrough all the dialogue options with no luck either.

Does anyone know what has to be done?

BTW going back to DAO after playing DA2 was interesting. For me DA2 was the more emotional of the two games. There was not much family interaction in DAO and almost all of it happen in the origins preamble. In DA2 family interaction happens throughout the game. And there is nothing like the dilemna of Anders in DAO. In terms of story telling, DA2 is much better. DAO had the better role playing character mechanics. DAO was the longer game. Maybe a little too long as I deliberately skipped many side quests as I knew I could get the levels I needed for the end game without them and I did not have the interest to do them this time.

Harold

[EmperorSahlertz]

You have to have a high coercion, high approval and convinced Alistair to marry Anora before the Landsmeet. You will still lose Alistair as a companion, but he will agree to remain in ferelden and rule as King.

[TEWR]

I thought that 100 like and max Coercion and the hardening of Alistair was what it took but apparently not. I went rhrough all the dialogue options with no luck either

That's definitely it. What dialogue option did you pick when you were in the hardening conversation with Alistair?

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 20 mars 2012 - 03:15 .

[dragonflight288]

After meeting Goldanna, you have to tell him everyone is out for themselves, and reinforce the idea that he needs to think more for himself and less on following orders, and he'll be hardened. If he's not hardened, he won't remain King.

[haroldhardluck]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

You have to have a high coercion, high approval and convinced Alistair to marry Anora before the Landsmeet. You will still lose Alistair as a companion, but he will agree to remain in ferelden and rule as King.

Did all that and it did not work.

Harold

[haroldhardluck]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I thought that 100 like and max Coercion and the hardening of Alistair was what it took but apparently not. I went rhrough all the dialogue options with no luck either

That's definitely it. What dialogue option did you pick when you were in the hardening conversation with Alistair?

I re-fought the battle and went through all the diaglogue option combinations. None worked. It was a long time ago but I thought the "we can't all have spotless honor" was the one but it was not.

Harold

[haroldhardluck]

dragonflight288 wrote...

After meeting Goldanna, you have to tell him everyone is out for themselves, and reinforce the idea that he needs to think more for himself and less on following orders, and he'll be hardened. If he's not hardened, he won't remain King.

Did that. This is my big peeve about DAO. This options are not obvious and the payoff is not until much later so you have no idea what the conseuqneces will be without reading about it here.

Harold

[Kavatica]

Hi Harold.

I believe that in order to get Alistair to agree to marry Anora after you recruit Loghain, you need to have gotten them both to agree to the idea of a marriage in previous conversations that you had with both of them prior to the Landsmeet. This needs to be done as well as the other things you mentioned, such as the hardening and max persuasion. Did you do this?

[Lazy Jer]

Not sure if this helps, but I do know that Anora will marry Alistair if killing Loghain is your idea rather then Alistair.

Modifié par Lazy Jer, 20 mars 2012 - 03:50 .

[Kavatica]

Lazy Jer wrote...

Not sure if this helps, but I do know that Anora will marry Loghain if killing Loghain is your idea rather then Alister's.

I think you mean Alistair. Not Loghain.  *shudders*

Also, I think Harold is referring to the instance where Alistair marries Anora and leaves the party after you recruit Loghain, not the instance where you kill Loghain and then they marry. 

Modifié par Kavatica, 20 mars 2012 - 03:27 .

[caradoc2000]

Lazy Jer wrote..
I do know that Anora will marry Loghain

Are you absolutely sure about that?

[Lazy Jer]

caradoc2000 wrote...

Lazy Jer wrote..
I do know that Anora will marry Loghain

Are you absolutely sure about that?

Uhhh...I don't know what your talking about *copius use of white-out* I said Alistair, not Loghain.  Check the message.

[haroldhardluck]

Kavatica wrote...

Hi Harold.

I believe that in order to get Alistair to agree to marry Anora after you recruit Loghain, you need to have gotten them both to agree to the idea of a marriage in previous conversations that you had with both of them prior to the Landsmeet. This needs to be done as well as the other things you mentioned, such as the hardening and max persuasion. Did you do this?

Did it. I am beginning to think that there is an additional diaglogue option like the hardening option that needs to be done long before the Landsmeet and is not at all obvious that it is needed. DAO has too many such nonobvius options.

Harold

[Kavatica]

The only thing left that I can think of that you might not have done is answered correctly in the follow-up conversation that you have after telling Alistair that "everyone looks out for themselves, you should know that." If you didn't have the follow-up conversation with him where you confirmed your previous statement, then he won't be hardened.

The tried and true way to redeem Loghain and get Alistair and Anora to marry is:
a) harden Alistair
talk to Anora and Alistair in Eamon's estate and get them both to agree to a political marriage (which requires persuasion)
c) have him at a higher level of approval and
d) be the one to fight Loghain (because Alistair will kill him automatically)
e) in the conversation during the Landsmeet when Alistair is flipping out over you considering sparing Loghain, choose the conversation options where you say things like "I thought you wanted to save Fereldan" (I am paraphrasing)
After all of that, Alistair will announce himself as King and says he will marry Anora and no longer be a Grey Warden.

If you did all of those things and it is still not working, I am not sure what is going on. It might be a bug.

Modifié par Kavatica, 20 mars 2012 - 10:51 .

[thats1evildude]

haroldhardluck wrote...

For me the perfect ending is for Alistair and Anora to marry and I got that ending once.

Why? For the love of the Maker, why?

Anora makes it perfectly clear that she does not like Alistair, even a little. You're forcing him into a horrible marriage with one of the most aggravating people in all of Thedas. Hell, letting him commit suicide-by-Archdemon is more merciful.

[Kavatica]

thats1evildude wrote...

haroldhardluck wrote...

For me the perfect ending is for Alistair and Anora to marry and I got that ending once.

Why? For the love of the Maker, why?

Anora makes it perfectly clear that she does not like Alistair, even a little. You're forcing him into a horrible marriage with one of the most aggravating people in all of Thedas. Hell, letting him commit suicide-by-Archdemon is more merciful.

Not to mention his dead sibling's spouse (ew). 

I think some people don't realize how awful Anora can be. If you don't play through certain scenarios, you never see how easily she is willing to betray you.

Edit: Although I am admittedly kind of evil sometimes, and since I pretty much always romance Alistair, I sometimes like to pick the "I think Alistair and Anora should marry" option in the Landsmeet just to hear him freak out about it and refuse. 

Modifié par Kavatica, 20 mars 2012 - 11:00 .

[Kavatica]

haroldhardluck wrote...

For me the perfect ending is for Alistair and Anora to marry and I got that ending once. However I just played DAO again to get that ending with a male character. Despite all I could do, I never got Alistair to agree to let Loghain live which is the requirement for this ending. 

I just wanted to add that you do NOT need to spare Loghain to have Alistair and Anora marry. You just have to be the one to kill Loghain yourself (don't let Alistair battle him if you have hardened him, because if you have, he will automatically announce himself as king - if you haven't hardened him, he will waffle about this and you will still get the option to persuade them to marry), have high enough persuasion, have talked about it previously at Eamon's estate and convinced them both to marry in those conversations (using persuasion), and then you will be able to persuade them to marry during the Landsmeet.

Sparing Loghain and having them marry is an additional ending. 

Modifié par Kavatica, 20 mars 2012 - 10:53 .

[Wulfram]

Kavatica wrote...

I think some people don't realize how awful Anora can be. If you don't play through certain scenarios, you never see how easily she is willing to betray you.

Some of us just think that makes her even sexier:wub:

[Kavatica]

Wulfram wrote...

Kavatica wrote...

I think some people don't realize how awful Anora can be. If you don't play through certain scenarios, you never see how easily she is willing to betray you.

Some of us just think that makes her even sexier:wub:

LOL. Well then your Warden should marry her. Don't force her on my poor Alistair! 

Modifié par Kavatica, 20 mars 2012 - 10:59 .

[thats1evildude]

Kavatica wrote...

Not to mention his dead sibling's spouse (ew).

Yeah, there's that as well. It just adds to the creepiness of the whole affair.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 20 mars 2012 - 10:57 .

[HiroVoid]

I wouldn't want to force Anora to have to deal with Alistair for the rest of her life. That's not even getting to the fact that I don't think she'd want to be married to someone who looks like Cailan for the rest of her life.

[Clover Rider]

HiroVoid wrote...

I wouldn't want to force Anora to have to deal with Alistair for the rest of her life. That's not even getting to the fact that I don't think she'd want to be married to someone who looks like Cailan for the rest of her life.

I agree.

She is better off with a Cousland anyway.

Modifié par Some Geth, 20 mars 2012 - 11:02 .

[Kavatica]

HiroVoid wrote...

I wouldn't want to force Anora to have to deal with Alistair for the rest of her life. That's not even getting to the fact that I don't think she'd want to be married to someone who looks like Cailan for the rest of her life.

Ironically, if Anora is married to Alistair and he is hardened then they both become beloved monarchs. 

But seriously...the woman builds a statue of Loghain. Ugh. Even if he isn't redeemed. 

[Kavatica]

Some Geth wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

I wouldn't want to force Anora to have to deal with Alistair for the rest of her life. That's not even getting to the fact that I don't think she'd want to be married to someone who looks like Cailan for the rest of her life.

I agree.

She is better off with a Cousland anyway.

Doesn't Cousland end up vying with her for control of the throne? 

[Clover Rider]

Kavatica wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

I wouldn't want to force Anora to have to deal with Alistair for the rest of her life. That's not even getting to the fact that I don't think she'd want to be married to someone who looks like Cailan for the rest of her life.

I agree.

She is better off with a Cousland anyway.

Doesn't Cousland end up vying with her for control of the throne? 

I think so?

But really it's all how you role-play I guess.

Modifié par Some Geth, 20 mars 2012 - 11:31 .