If you are saying Bioware would be the ones needing to apologize, no. Those getting incredibly nasty about the endings to the point of FTC and BBB reporting, yeah they should be apologizing.
If this ending isn't the real ending (planned all along) then Bioware are gods of game development.
If Bioware has been planning on Ending DLC all along/Indoc theory is true, then we need a massive apology thread
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#27
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:04
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Midarenkov wrote...
No, in fact if this was planned I might get even more steamed than I already am.
Even if it was free content?
Not saying that it will be/this whole idea is true, but just idly wondering.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:05
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Zenny Merc wrote...
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No thread needed. A free improved ending DLC is apology enough.
As far as I'm aware the only people who could get it free would be PC players. Those who own a 360 (maybe PS3 don't know for sure, since I don't have one.) would have to pay for it.
The 360 version of ME2 had a few freebies (provided you had Cerberus networ), back in the day, such as Zaeed.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:07
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Jsxdf wrote...
If you are saying Bioware would be the ones needing to apologize, no. Those getting incredibly nasty about the endings to the point of FTC and BBB reporting, yeah they should be apologizing.
If this ending isn't the real ending (planned all along) then Bioware are gods of game development.
I mean us, the gaming community, needs to apologize, not Bioware. Good point, that's not really clear in my post.
And yeah, wouldn't they be? Intentionally breaking the 4th wall to see if the player themselves can resist Indoctrination (still choose Destroy ending) would be a stroke of brilliance.
Editing OP for clarity.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:09
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I want an ending where I can replay the game other than legend so it doesn't feel like I'm running in a circle.
#31
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:09
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That was my denial phase for 3 days.
It's been said "bad press is good press" but there's such a thing as taking it too far and Bioware knows that.
It's been said "bad press is good press" but there's such a thing as taking it too far and Bioware knows that.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:09
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A free DLC to give a rewarding ending would be quite welcome, but a paid for DLC would likely insight rage. Some people paid good money to buy legit copies of the TRILOGY and they get rewarded by an unfulfilling ending.
Bioware unfortunately made an ending for a Film/Movie, not a video game. The ending feels largely unrewarding regardless of which one you get whereas a video game is supposed to challenge you then reward you.
So no apologies for Bioware/EA here, and I had been a bioware fanboy since baldur's gate. A thank you most definitely, but no apologies, it's their own fault that they made that is so unpleasing to so many people.
Bioware unfortunately made an ending for a Film/Movie, not a video game. The ending feels largely unrewarding regardless of which one you get whereas a video game is supposed to challenge you then reward you.
So no apologies for Bioware/EA here, and I had been a bioware fanboy since baldur's gate. A thank you most definitely, but no apologies, it's their own fault that they made that is so unpleasing to so many people.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:10
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Starschwar wrote...
No thread needed. A free improved ending DLC is apology enough.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:11
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alan614 wrote...
A free DLC to give a rewarding ending would be quite welcome, but a paid for DLC would likely insight rage. Some people paid good money to buy legit copies of the TRILOGY and they get rewarded by an unfulfilling ending.
Bioware unfortunately made an ending for a Film/Movie, not a video game. The ending feels largely unrewarding regardless of which one you get whereas a video game is supposed to challenge you then reward you.
So no apologies for Bioware/EA here, and I had been a bioware fanboy since baldur's gate. A thank you most definitely, but no apologies, it's their own fault that they made that is so unpleasing to so many people.
Actually the last time I was on BSN there were several fan-made polls popping up and the vast majority polled said they'd willingly pay for the DLC if it meant a better ending. You'd be surprised, heh.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:11
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There's no way it would go on this long if they planned it. And even if it was planned, there comes a point when things go too far.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:12
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a) They weren't planning it all along
Being pissed off for a couple weeks isn't worth some crappy joke. If it were actually true, it would be as big of a problem as the crap endings were in the first place (though not quite as poorly received considering how much we all hate the current ones.)
Being pissed off for a couple weeks isn't worth some crappy joke. If it were actually true, it would be as big of a problem as the crap endings were in the first place (though not quite as poorly received considering how much we all hate the current ones.)
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:13
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I don't have a certain view for Apology from bioware ...if this was their ''plan'' then they actually should apologize..
But if they actually create something solid and remedy this screw up... I am not gonna need an apology or something since the ending will be worth it.
But if they actually create something solid and remedy this screw up... I am not gonna need an apology or something since the ending will be worth it.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:13
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Starschwar wrote...
Zenny Merc wrote...
Starschwar wrote...
No thread needed. A free improved ending DLC is apology enough.
As far as I'm aware the only people who could get it free would be PC players. Those who own a 360 (maybe PS3 don't know for sure, since I don't have one.) would have to pay for it.
The 360 version of ME2 had a few freebies (provided you had Cerberus networ), back in the day, such as Zaeed.
True. I'm just saying flat out free, no passes having to have been bought. With Cerberus Network you did know what you were getting, as you said Zaeed and so forth. If you have Baston the creators said no DLC was being made, then DLC was made and was going to be given away for free. Mircosoft made them put a price on it. (DLC is 80 points)
#39
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:14
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I will be immensely grateful but I won't apologize for such a completely botched publicity stunt.
#40
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:15
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No one should have to apologize. We paid money to play a game, not to get played. We are not Michael Douglas and this is not The Game.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:15
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I can't pay my therapist with apologies.
(supr srs guise)
(supr srs guise)
#42
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:17
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You're going to apologize to them because they released an incomplete game and planned to sell the ending as DLC?
Do you have some form of Stockholmes?
Do you have some form of Stockholmes?
#43
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:17
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I don't believe Bioware has anything -planned- but if they do, then should we really apologise for Bioware giving us a false ending and asking us to pay them for the real one?
You buy a car, and after driving it home, you realize there's no back seat.
You take your car back to the dealer and say: "Hey! This is not what you sold me when we were on the phone!"
The dealer replies, "Just kidding! Here's your back seat. Only 30% of the initial purchase and it's yours!"
How would that go, even after he put in your new seat?
You'd get your money back and go buy a car from someone else.
So, yeah. I agree with you - why would anyone apologize to EA or Bioware? Also, why would anyone pay for DLC to fix the ending of a game?
At this point, I'm not even sure I'd play ME3 again if the ending was 'fixed' and if the DLC was free. Sadly, I was 100% story driven on this series. If I wanted a decent 3rd person shooter I'd play the plethora of 3rd person shooters out there that, as a 3rd person shooter, are vastly superior to all Mass Effect games. The damage is done.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:17
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Why should we apoligize. It is entirely possible to plan this:
1. Create game normally, have Shep get close to being indoctrinated and then if player chooses to destroy and has enough war assets then Shep wakes up in London surrounded by rubble from the Reaper beam
2. Remove any part after that and include in future dlc
3. Watch fan outcry as media outlets start advertising the game for free generating a lot of press
4. Make it look like we accepted our mistake and release ending DLC for free, generating a lot of potential customers as more people have heard of the game and see it looks like Bioware is listening to its customers.
5. More people will buy small DLCs for heightened prices since they are paying a company "they trust and that has their backs".
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It would be a very risky move by the marketing teams but if it works out it could potentially increase sales 5x at least.
1. Create game normally, have Shep get close to being indoctrinated and then if player chooses to destroy and has enough war assets then Shep wakes up in London surrounded by rubble from the Reaper beam
2. Remove any part after that and include in future dlc
3. Watch fan outcry as media outlets start advertising the game for free generating a lot of press
4. Make it look like we accepted our mistake and release ending DLC for free, generating a lot of potential customers as more people have heard of the game and see it looks like Bioware is listening to its customers.
5. More people will buy small DLCs for heightened prices since they are paying a company "they trust and that has their backs".
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It would be a very risky move by the marketing teams but if it works out it could potentially increase sales 5x at least.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:18
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ticklefist wrote...
I can't pay my therapist with apologies.
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Lolol
#46
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:18
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There is no indoctrination, the writers honestly thought this craptastic ending was just great.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:18
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JeffZero wrote...
alan614 wrote...
A free DLC to give a rewarding ending would be quite welcome, but a paid for DLC would likely insight rage. Some people paid good money to buy legit copies of the TRILOGY and they get rewarded by an unfulfilling ending.
Bioware unfortunately made an ending for a Film/Movie, not a video game. The ending feels largely unrewarding regardless of which one you get whereas a video game is supposed to challenge you then reward you.
So no apologies for Bioware/EA here, and I had been a bioware fanboy since baldur's gate. A thank you most definitely, but no apologies, it's their own fault that they made that is so unpleasing to so many people.
Actually the last time I was on BSN there were several fan-made polls popping up and the vast majority polled said they'd willingly pay for the DLC if it meant a better ending. You'd be surprised, heh.
OT : Yeah, this is actually the very sad part. DLC started off as a reward for people buying new copies of games. I was quite pleased with myself and felt rewarded for bying a legit game when I got Dragon Age: Origins as it had free EXTRA content, or it gave the illusion of such, now it's evolving into something bad. Incomplete games given a standard price with DLC costing extra.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:19
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FlyinElk212 wrote...
^^^^^^^
Saving this spot on the off chance it's true. Here's hoping!
Make me proud, Bioware. Make yourselves proud.
EDIT: To clarify, the thread would be for BSN to apologize to Bioware, not the other way around. Though them jumping in to apologize for the deception would be a nice touch.
I should apologize to them for selling me a $80 game with promises of an "epic conclusion" - only to find out there's no actual ending and no conclusion?
You smokin' bath salts?
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:21
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im with the OP on this one. i said some things i shouldn't have and i'll be the first one to apologize should they release the rest of the game assuming this was all one big indoctrination prank. although, they should apologize as well for waiting as long as they have to reveal it. all this is specualtion of course. indoctrination theory could be totally bogus.
think about this though, what if they already have the rest of the game ready to go, but they are holding onto it under lock and key, tweaking it based on our ideas? just a thought.
think about this though, what if they already have the rest of the game ready to go, but they are holding onto it under lock and key, tweaking it based on our ideas? just a thought.
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