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[MrWahloh]

Not just a Apology Thread, we'll need to help them gain alot of positive attention just like they're getting alot of negative attention right now.

[shinobi602]

I would be the first to instantly apologize if the theory is true and a real ending is coming.

Though...would they charge for it? If they do..........

[Mr Indivisible]

not only would I apologize, but I'd do my best to vote up amazon (i did not vote it down though).

[wtbusername]

OP is right.

But most people on this forum are also, always 'right'.

Watch this forum flood with complaints about the 'fix' ending, DLC ending or Indoc ending.

This community will never be satisfied.

[Apollo-XL5]

Hey games these days are never complete or they would never release dlc for it after.

[The Lightspeaker]

I'm their customer, not their friend. I don't owe them any apologies for complaining about a product I'm not happy with.

[cardboardarmor]

The Lightspeaker wrote...

I'm their customer, not their friend. I don't owe them any apologies for complaining about a product I'm not happy with.

This.

[bronzerevolution]

I would have much more respect for Bioware, but ultimately there is no justification for creating a false ending, unless... for paid DLC. Which would be a scam.

[MattFini]

Oh, if they had this planned and there *IS* a real ending coming soon, I will personally buy another copy of the game (want a FemShep version of the standard version), buy a few things from the Bio store and start championing them all over again.

[tsd16]

Jsxdf wrote...

If you are saying Bioware would be the ones needing to apologize, no. Those getting incredibly nasty about the endings to the point of FTC and BBB reporting, yeah they should be apologizing.

If this ending isn't the real ending (planned all along) then Bioware are gods of game development.

Thats only true if its a free DLC.   If they want to make us pay for the "real ending" they had planned all along, thats just low.

Now if this is the case and its free.   Then yes, well played bioware.   

I dont care for the current endings, on the same token im not crusading against them.   I do agree the BBB and FTC reporting is done by people that are borderline unstable.   We arent getting our air conditioner repaired and finding out after two weeks of amazing functionality it was repairing with duct tape and the whole thing went to hell.   We got endings we didnt like in a story.  Theres no law on how you have to end a story.

Secondly, they didnt lie to us on the outcomes.  They said the decisions we make will impact the ending in a variety of different ways and they did.   The differences may be minor as all hell, but different none the less.  Believe me they wouldnt say something about their product without making sure their ass is "technically speaking" covered.   I am not defending bioware, I am just saying the people attempting legal recourse are out of their minds and no I dont respect them for standing up for their belief they are just being stupid.  I do on the otherhand respect the take back people, they are going about it the proper way.

Modifié par tsd16, 20 mars 2012 - 04:37 .

[AlexXIV]

I need to apologize because the game didn't have an ending and I can buy one in a DLC?

Not. Really.

[Jenrais]

 So let me get this Straight....

They make us buy a 60 dollar game which is incomplete?

And than make us buy the real ending as dlc?

And IM THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE?


No...

[AlexanderHO85]

I can forgive bioware, but i will never forget.

[ExSturminator]

I would apologize, buy DLC, and preorder their next game. I want the ending fixed that badly, lol

[HeyUder]

I will shamelessly kiss their feet if this was their plan the whole time. I will be impressed, slap myself in the face and punch myself repeatedly in my balls, eat dirt, and shower in urine for 2 weeks if this is the case. And I hope it's the case. If it is, they are brilliant and the ME series is THE definitive example of gaming. Not gaming as a.... just the DEFINITIVE example of gaming.

[Apocsapel91]

pika9519 wrote...

If this is true, I'll lick the bottoms of my sneakers.

And I'll eat my beret and I don't even have a beret.  So I will go out, buy a beret, and then eat it if Bioware had been planning the Indoc Theory the entire time.

[d-boy15]

I can apologize all the time they want but I think, we all know that not true.

[pro5]

Jenrais wrote...

 So let me get this Straight....

They make us buy a 60 dollar game which is incomplete?

And than make us buy the real ending as dlc?

And IM THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE?


No...

^This.

They release a game without ending marketed as the end of the trilogy, but which does not resolve anything.

They remain tight-lipped and outright kill our hopes rather than support them even AFTER we pick up on the hints and evidence on the indoc theory (see Hudson's response).

They let the stituation linger and grow worse while many fans are already in depression in the meantime. Indoc theory videos are already on youtube and have 100 000s of views, why leave us hanging?

All they had to do is come out and say:

"Relax folks. Sit tight, we have a plan. We can't reveal the details yet until everyone has had a chance to play the game, but we promise you'll love it."

That's freaking it.

If they do come out with it now, I'll forgive them (because in all honesty I love the indoctrination theory), but I've got nothing to apologize to them for. They deserve every second of the fan outrage and negative press for the way they handled it.

Modifié par pro5, 20 mars 2012 - 05:05 .

[Evanz]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

 ^^^^^^^

Saving this spot on the off chance it's true. Here's hoping!

Make me proud, Bioware. Make yourselves proud.

EDIT: To clarify, the thread would be for BSN to apologize to Bioware, not the other way around. Though them jumping in to apologize for the deception would be a nice touch.

EDIT 2: This thread is also meant to hopefully inspire Bioware to take this route (if they arent already) to cover their behinds, if anything due to the amount of fans they'd win back (as viewed by their admittance to apologize).

An Indoc ending would be brilliant because it would be Bioware's attempt to break the 4th wall and Indoctrinate the PLAYER, not Shepard. If the player still chose to destroy the Reapers in the end, despite "getting an ending" with all 3 choices, they would conquer Indoctrination, and get to continue the story. 

Thanks to Dr. Hello, Intersect, and JSXDF for their input and clarifying my thoughts.

You for real?
Scandal Promotion gone bad, if that is what you mean.

It doesn't matter if they have an ending or not.

- If they have, they will make people feel like idiots. poor way to treat your customer
- If they don't have, they will make people feel trolled (all the promises).

It's a BW lose, Fans lose scenario.

The only victor here is children who will get money from donation.

Modifié par Evanz, 20 mars 2012 - 04:48 .

[t_i_e_]

Amazon and Orgin are taking returns.

I'll buy it again if it becomes worth it.

[SirTerrens]

I trust BioWare. Everythin's to be fine (=

[FlyinElk212]

shinobi602 wrote...
I would be the first to instantly apologize if the theory is true and a real ending is coming.

Though...would they charge for it? If they do..........

That seems to be the most valid argument going against apologizing. Needing to pay for the DLC would fall under the "Monetary Benefit" light that would tarnish Bioware's reputation. If they were to go Indoc route, they'd need the DLC to be free, thus claiming releasing the ending later was for a "Storytelling Benefit".

The Lightspeaker wrote...
I'm their customer, not their friend. I don't owe them any apologies for complaining about a product I'm not happy with.

Completely valid point, though I'd argue that the relationship between consumer and producer (PARTICULARLY in Bioware's sake) is very important to the company. If it isn't important to you specifically, then I would consider you a casual consumer, not a loyal consumer of Bioware of whom I'm asking to apologize.

Modifié par FlyinElk212, 20 mars 2012 - 04:53 .

[jkflipflopDAO]

They deserve exactly what they're getting right now. If they had actually planned all this, dont you think they would have said something by now instead of hemorrhaging customers?

[NikitaDarkstar]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

 ^^^^^^^

Saving this spot on the off chance it's true. Here's hoping!

Make me proud, Bioware. Make yourselves proud.

EDIT: To clarify, the thread would be for BSN to apologize to Bioware, not the other way around. Though them jumping in to apologize for the deception would be a nice touch.

EDIT 2: This thread is also meant to hopefully inspire Bioware to take this route (if they arent already) to cover their behinds, if anything due to the amount of fans they'd win back (as viewed by their admittance to apologize).

An Indoc ending would be brilliant because it would be Bioware's attempt to break the 4th wall and Indoctrinate the PLAYER, not Shepard. If the player still chose to destroy the Reapers in the end, despite "getting an ending" with all 3 choices, they would conquer Indoctrination, and get to continue the story. 

Thanks to Dr. Hello, Intersect, and JSXDF for their input and clarifying my thoughts.

Why should we apologize even if they did plan this from the start? If they did they planned to sell us an unfinished product from the beginning and/or play a cruel joke on us. No, apologizing for being upset over this is not something that will be happening.

[Impulse and Compulse]

We shouldn't apologize, we should say thank you if they do it for free and then cease ratings-bombing. (and perhaps even rectify it)