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Xandurpein wrote...

The funny thing is kids can have some really startling insights into modern media you never thought about yourself.

I remeber having put my kids to bed, while my wife was working late. So I decided to watch the movie "Gettysburg" on DVD as I knew my wife wouldn't like it anyway. About an hour into the movie my son, then aged 4 couldn't sleep and needed some extra hugging. The movie was just about bearded men talking then, so I let him sit on my knee for a while, but then the shooting started so I had him off to bed.

As I kissed him goodnight I decided to check what he made of what he'd seen so I asked him if he knew that was just a movie and no one died for real. He looked brightly at me and answered "Of course dad. There were black edges on the TV so it wasn't real". He got it; Movie = widescreen and black edges = not scary, News = normal screen = real and scary.

My daughter and son both never had that much trouble differentiating between reality and fiction.

I remember watching "Army of Darkness" and my daughter desperately begged to be able to watch the next one...and I'm thinking it's not really that scary.  I went and got Evil Dead and I thought maybe it'd be as funny, but it was seriously a gut bucket and I'm thinking I'm ruining my daughter, but she had a great time.

There's a part where Ash was walking downstairs and a zombie pulled him under and I'm thinking...I've ruined her.  I should turn this off...this is...I'm a bad mom...and she turned to me and said "You know, mommy, that's what happens when you don't hold onto the railing."

I think she was five or six.

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tddobbs wrote...

Okay, I have to ask....

Has no one else wondered why, if Morrigan is so skeeved out by Leliana just TALKING about her breasts, she needs to be standing...what five or ten feet away when Leliana and I are getting it on by her fire. Not to mention..WHY are Leliana and I getting it on in Morrigan's tent/shelter thing?

I know this is kinda off the current topic...but it is just too funny.

Well, if you don't want someone talking about your breasts, perhaps you could cover them. 

I can't figure out how she fights in that robe to tell the truth.  Seems horribly impractical.

[Xandurpein]

Recidiva wrote...

Xandurpein wrote...

The funny thing is kids can have some really startling insights into modern media you never thought about yourself.

I remeber having put my kids to bed, while my wife was working late. So I decided to watch the movie "Gettysburg" on DVD as I knew my wife wouldn't like it anyway. About an hour into the movie my son, then aged 4 couldn't sleep and needed some extra hugging. The movie was just about bearded men talking then, so I let him sit on my knee for a while, but then the shooting started so I had him off to bed.

As I kissed him goodnight I decided to check what he made of what he'd seen so I asked him if he knew that was just a movie and no one died for real. He looked brightly at me and answered "Of course dad. There were black edges on the TV so it wasn't real". He got it; Movie = widescreen and black edges = not scary, News = normal screen = real and scary.

My daughter and son both never had that much trouble differentiating between reality and fiction.

I remember watching "Army of Darkness" and my daughter desperately begged to be able to watch the next one...and I'm thinking it's not really that scary.  I went and got Evil Dead and I thought maybe it'd be as funny, but it was seriously a gut bucket and I'm thinking I'm ruining my daughter, but she had a great time.

There's a part where Ash was walking downstairs and a zombie pulled him under and I'm thinking...I've ruined her.  I should turn this off...this is...I'm a bad mom...and she turned to me and said "You know, mommy, that's what happens when you don't hold onto the railing."

I think she was five or six.

I have had arguments with other parents, teachers and other people who think they know better than me what my kids should be allowed to see and I stick firmly to my belief that my kids know best what is scary. It's not so important what you let them see, the important thing is that you sit beside them watching it and are ready to answer their questions about what happeened. Sometimes a silly cartoon is much scarier to a kid than an action movie. You have to be there and gauge their reactions and talk it over with them, then they'll be ok. It's when your kids start seeing movies at their friends and don't dare tell you what they have done, or you park them in front of the TV and don't check what they are seeing, you might get trouble.

Modifié par Xandurpein, 08 janvier 2010 - 02:26 .

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Xandurpein wrote...

I have had arguments with other parents, teachers and other people who think they know better than me what my kids should be allowed to see and I stick firmly to my belief that my kids know best what is scary. It's not so important what you let them see, the important thing is that you sit beside them watching it and are ready to answer their questions about what happeened. Sometimes a silly cartoon is much scarier to a kid than an action movie. You have to be there and gauge their reactions and talk it over with them, then they'll be ok. It's when your kids start seeing movies at their friends and don't dare tell you what they have done, or you park them in front of the TV and don't check what they are seeing, you might get trouble.

I think you're right.  It certainly depends on the kid.  

I did draw the line at letting her watch "Pulp Fiction" with me...and my son did have to have vacations from Black and White 2 occasionally because I think he had way too much fun slapping and starving his pets to death and started looking at our animals kinda funny.

But overall they've been pretty self policing and I've seen my son take out scary games and play them for a few minutes and put them away when they bothered him.  Hell, even my husband couldn't make it through Bioshock 'cause the little sisters freaked him out too much.

My daughter became more of a crusader on the subject, letting people come over here to watch movies or loaning her copies of Harry Potter out to friends whose parents wouldn't let them read it...though she wouldn't push it on someone, if they said they didn't like scary stuff, she'd be fine with watching Pocahontas again.

Same goes with the internet.  Put in basic controls and make sure your kids know how not to activate every virus and phishing scam, and be there to help and answer questions.  Considering I met my husband online, it's hard for me to think that the internet is scarier than reality. 

But I guess that's just what I'm familiar with and I can help my kids navigate and they feel free to ask me questions. 

My son got in trouble this year for bringing a Pokemon book to school...because it's a violent game.  Really?  You guys are kidding, right?  Okay, here's the deal, he'll leave his Pokemon book at home if you guys don't tell him that gaming is bad.  Because as far as I can tell the main thing that inspired him to read is the ability to play games and read books about Pokemon, so let's work together here.  Fortunately his teacher is very cool and it became a non-issue fast once I explained my husband builds computers, our family has a hobby of gaming together.  My son grew up struggling to read words on a screen when he would never crack a book to save his life and he vowed not to learn to read.  Games are what inspired him to learn.

[Xandurpein]

Recidiva wrote...

Xandurpein wrote...

I have had arguments with other parents, teachers and other people who think they know better than me what my kids should be allowed to see and I stick firmly to my belief that my kids know best what is scary. It's not so important what you let them see, the important thing is that you sit beside them watching it and are ready to answer their questions about what happeened. Sometimes a silly cartoon is much scarier to a kid than an action movie. You have to be there and gauge their reactions and talk it over with them, then they'll be ok. It's when your kids start seeing movies at their friends and don't dare tell you what they have done, or you park them in front of the TV and don't check what they are seeing, you might get trouble.

I think you're right.  It certainly depends on the kid.  

I did draw the line at letting her watch "Pulp Fiction" with me...and my son did have to have vacations from Black and White 2 occasionally because I think he had way too much fun slapping and starving his pets to death and started looking at our animals kinda funny.

But overall they've been pretty self policing and I've seen my son take out scary games and play them for a few minutes and put them away when they bothered him.  Hell, even my husband couldn't make it through Bioshock 'cause the little sisters freaked him out too much.

My daughter became more of a crusader on the subject, letting people come over here to watch movies or loaning her copies of Harry Potter out to friends whose parents wouldn't let them read it...though she wouldn't push it on someone, if they said they didn't like scary stuff, she'd be fine with watching Pocahontas again.

Same goes with the internet.  Put in basic controls and make sure your kids know how not to activate every virus and phishing scam, and be there to help and answer questions.  Considering I met my husband online, it's hard for me to think that the internet is scarier than reality. 

But I guess that's just what I'm familiar with and I can help my kids navigate and they feel free to ask me questions. 

My son got in trouble this year for bringing a Pokemon book to school...because it's a violent game.  Really?  You guys are kidding, right?  Okay, here's the deal, he'll leave his Pokemon book at home if you guys don't tell him that gaming is bad.  Because as far as I can tell the main thing that inspired him to read is the ability to play games and read books about Pokemon, so let's work together here.  Fortunately his teacher is very cool and it became a non-issue fast once I explained my husband builds computers, our family has a hobby of gaming together.  My son grew up struggling to read words on a screen when he would never crack a book to save his life and he vowed not to learn to read.  Games are what inspired him to learn.

I don't know where you live, but here in Sweden at least they don't even ban Pokemon in Kindergarten. At least that is something. I never let my kids show movies they are allowed to see themselves to other kids if it is not rated for their age, because I think it's up to their parents to decide. Just as I want to sit beside my kids when he watches things that might need explanation, I want their friends parents to have the same opportunity.

Kids and the internet is something of a crusading thing for me. I am deeply disturbed that we have so many kids who grow up with the internet, but have parents who haven't taken the time to understand it, so they can guide their kids. I use to liken Internet to a motorway. You need motorways, because it can get you places you couldn't get to on foot, but you need to teach kids how to behave in the traffic. Motorways are safe as long as you know the rules and stay on the pavement, but if you don't know the rules you can end up hurt very, very badly. Keeping your kids looked up at home for fear of cars is not a feasible option, but letting them navigate traffic and ride a bus, without explaining about the dangers of traffic is irresponsible.

Modifié par Xandurpein, 08 janvier 2010 - 02:51 .

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Xandurpein wrote...

I don't know where you live, but here in Sweden at least they don't even ban Pokemon in Kindergarten. At least that is something. I never let my kids show movies they are allowed to see themselves to other kids if it is not rated for their age, because I think it's up to their parents to decide. Just as I want to sit beside my kids when he watches things that might need explanation, I want their friends parents to have the same opportunity.

Kids and the internet is something of a crusading thing for me. I am deeply disturbed that we have so many kids who grow up with the internet, but have parents who haven't taken the time to understand it, so they can guide their kids. I use to liken Internet to a motorway. You need motorways, because it can get you places you couldn't get to on foot, but you need to teach kids how to behave in the traffic. Motorways are safe as long as you know the rules and stay on the pavement, but if you don't know the rules you can end up hurt very, very badly. Keeping your kids looked up at home for fear of cars is not a feasible option, but letting them navigate traffic and ride a bus, without explaining about the dangers of traffic is irresponsible.

I don't think it's banned exactly.  I just think that it was an individual's concern, which is different from a school policy.  I explained to my son that we don't have to be angry if people think we're bad people.  We can explain how we're different from what they think and then we let them make their minds up.  Above all we respect what the school decides unless it's something bad.  And not liking games isn't bad. 

And I agree, games and internet are entertainment and tools.  Don't give your kid a hammer and then leave the room.

[Zenocrate]

Xandurpein wrote...Sometimes a silly cartoon is much scarier to a kid than an action movie.

There's a scene in The Wind in the Willows claymation movie that scared the **** out of me when I was young ><  I don't think I re-watched that movie until I was ten or so, to see if it was still scary (it was not), because it made such an impression (Mole is looking for Badger's house in the dark, snowy woods with weasel shadows everywhere and relatively creepy music)

I will never understand parents who won't let their kids read Harry Potter.  I work with one and she can't articulatey explain why she thinks it is bad (other than unkknown = bad).  Then there's my friend from college whose mother threw out all his Magic: the gathering cards and Wheel of Time books.  I mean, really?!   Society would probably be better off persecuting those people rather than the nerds trying to have a bit of fun (not that either way is good, but if we have to pick a lesser of two evils... =p)

Modifié par Zenocrate, 08 janvier 2010 - 03:20 .

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Zenocrate wrote...

There's a scene in The Wind in the Willows claymation movie that scared the **** out of me when I was young ><  I don't think I re-watched that movie until I was ten or so, to see if it was still scary (it was not), because it made such an impression (Mole is looking for Badger's house in the dark, snowy woods with weasel shadows everywhere and relatively creepy music)

I will never understand parents who won't let their kids read Harry Potter.  I work with one and she can't articulatey explain why she thinks it is bad (other than unkknown = bad).  Then there's my friend from college whose mother threw out all his Magic: the gathering cards and Wheel of Time books.  I mean, really?!   Society would probably be better off persecuting those people rather than the nerds trying to have a bit of fun (not that either way is good, but if we have to pick a lesser of two evils... =p)

At least I persecute pretend people.

My daughter went to school with kids who were not only not allowed to read the books...but when they were in Orchestra, they put their instruments down in protest because they weren't allowed to play the music.

Wow.  Way to take a...useless and offensive stand.

[sagevallant]

The demon dogs in Ghostbusters gave me nightmares. I'm not ashamed of that. But then, I've always been a spaced out kid with my mind in the clouds so I really had no reason to believe there was no such thing as demon dogs. At a certain age, it really doesn't matter to you if something isn't real.



Though, a good pointer for parents of imaginative kids having nightmares; tell them to think of something that can beat whatever they're afraid of.

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sagevallant wrote...

The demon dogs in Ghostbusters gave me nightmares. I'm not ashamed of that. But then, I've always been a spaced out kid with my mind in the clouds so I really had no reason to believe there was no such thing as demon dogs. At a certain age, it really doesn't matter to you if something isn't real.

Though, a good pointer for parents of imaginative kids having nightmares; tell them to think of something that can beat whatever they're afraid of.

Right...and where does a kid learn that?  From the lesson about the boggart in Harry Potter!

I'd also tell my kids that sometimes monsters were grumpy and needed hugs.  I'd leave out candy and cookies for nightmare monsters and tell my daughter it was an opportunity to meet new friends.  She actually did pretty well with that.

And for some reason my son has a talent for lucent dreaming and kicks everything's ass in his dreams without my encouragement.  Good for him.

[Sialater]

Well, no one told me how to beat my nightmares. I figured out I had to be strong enough on my own. I always pack a longsword or an uzi in my nightmares now.

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Okay. Started a new game. Was planning to with DLC and I might as well get on with it anyway. Slow tour, no accomplishments in particular to achieve, no curiosity...



I think I'm going to take it easy this time.



Putting together a picnic basket before I head to Alistair at Ostagar. I can be nice to him this time. Poor guy. And with my new graphics card...everything is...soooooo pretty.



Oooh! Look! Sparkly elfroot!



I think my character's going to have a talent for scrapbooking and sketching and carry around a big "Adventure Journal."



Can't call it "There and Back Again..." that's taken. And I'm not coming back. Hm.



"Darkspawn and Me"



"The road goes ever on and on..." no. Also taken.



"The Big Book of Blights"

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Sialater wrote...

Well, no one told me how to beat my nightmares. I figured out I had to be strong enough on my own. I always pack a longsword or an uzi in my nightmares now.

Mine are unique.  My nightmares are...turbo powered and my brain never gives me a chance to take a breath or figure things out.  I can't get a grip on lucid dreaming.  I just know how to endure dying in horrible ways.  Any time I realize I'm dreaming, I wake up. 

You know that thing where they say you can't die in your dreams?  Total lies.  I've died so many times in my dreams from torture, being eaten alive (bugs or sharks or such), gun shots...and it hurts too.  A lot.

I have a...uh...vivid and dangerous imagination that apparently doesn't want me to get any sleep. 

[Sialater]

OK, you made me giggle out loud with that last one.



I think my next play through, I'm going to see if I can get drunk in every tavern. Oghren should approve.





Me: Don't look at me like that. It seemed like a good idea at the time.

Alistair: It was a good idea to drink Oghren under the table?

Me: I said, 'At the time.' At the time, I was also so inebriated, there were two of you and one of you was making out with Zevran.

Alistair: I didn't need to know that.

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Sialater wrote...

OK, you made me giggle out loud with that last one.

I think my next play through, I'm going to see if I can get drunk in every tavern. Oghren should approve.


Me: Don't look at me like that. It seemed like a good idea at the time.
Alistair: It was a good idea to drink Oghren under the table?
Me: I said, 'At the time.' At the time, I was also so inebriated, there were two of you and one of you was making out with Zevran.
Alistair: I didn't need to know that.

Excellent.  Big Book of Blights it is.  Gonna spread out a basket and a blanket and ask Alistair a lot of questions about Blights and Duncan and Templars and Darkspawn in the noon-day sun.  Simple provisions of wine and grapes and cheese and some bread from the quartermaster.

Morrigan and I later are going to go for a walk in the woods and she can teach me the names of the flowers and I'll weave them into a crown for her and she'll scoff, but really like it.

I even like Duncan this time.  Oh hell, I like everybody.  Well...probably not the broodmother.  But I'm sure Laryn was a lovely woman.

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[mousestalker]

I've died in my dreams as well. Not fun.



These days my nightmares are less about spooks and horrors and more about being foreclosed upon, being ill, a loved one dying or being unemployed. Part of being middle-aged I suppose.



I miss the supernatural dreams.

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mousestalker wrote...

I've died in my dreams as well. Not fun.

These days my nightmares are less about spooks and horrors and more about being foreclosed upon, being ill, a loved one dying or being unemployed. Part of being middle-aged I suppose.

I miss the supernatural dreams.

All my dreams are supernatural.  But I sleep so light and it's so hard for my brain to wind down I take 50 mg of Benadryl every night to get some rest.

Otherwise I'll wake up in the middle of the night and shake my husband awake complaining about the 6 foot tall spiders.  If he tells me they're not there, I'll think he's in on it.

[Sialater]

Right now, I'm just having nightmares about Darkspawn.

[mousestalker]

I've been thinking about darkspawn and broodmothers. There's an ending where Lelianna tells you that Anora has asked her to lead an expedition into the Deep Roads to learn more about the darkspawn. I've been trying to decide if Anora knew about Broodmothers when she did that. If she did, then that's rather Branka-esque of her.

Modifié par mousestalker, 08 janvier 2010 - 07:06 .

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Sialater wrote...

Right now, I'm just having nightmares about Darkspawn.

Yeah, I can't afford to not drug myself down.

Otherwise I end up like Hespith.  Pretty close simulation to what I look like after two months of no sleep.

[Sialater]

mousestalker wrote...

I've been thinking about darkspawn and broodmothers. There's an ending where Lelianna tells you that Anora has asked her to lead an ecpedition into the Deep Roads to learn more about the darkspawn. I've been trying to decide if Anora knew about Broodmothers when she did that. If she did, then that's rather Branka-esque of her.

Another reason for Anora to NEVER become Queen.  You'd think Lel would be smart enough to refuse.

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*at Ostagar*



Me: Alistair, you really shouldn't say "trust me."

Alistair: I shouldn't?

Me: Nope. Grape?

Alistair: Don't mind if I do. Why?

Me: There are a couple times when you'll feel you have to ask me to trust you. You probably shouldn't.

Alistair: You don't trust me?

Me: No, it's not that at all. I like you. You're a fine gentleman. Wine?

Alistair: I am?

Me: Absolutely fine. But I have a knack for things, sometimes I can see the future.

Alistair: You can? But you're not a mage. Here, I'll pour that.

Me: It's a Cousland thing. Oh! Wait, there's one time you can say I should trust you that's okay.

Alistair: When's that?

Me: When you say you have other lines for me. That one's fine. But don't tell me you'll tell me more about the ritual, you won't. And don't tell me we can talk to each other later after I'm greeted as the Hero of Ferelden. Well, that probably won't come up. Bread?

Alistair: *clears his throat* Are you an apostate?

Me: Don't be silly. And put the wine bottle down, you look like you're about to throw it. I'm harmless.

Alistair: This food isn't poisoned, is it?

Me: No. Suspicious.

Alistair: Hello? Darkspawn wanting to kill us all?

Me: Fair point. But I'm not a darkspawn.

Alistair: Just a person who can see the future?

Me: Bits of it, yes.

Alistair: I'm not going to choke to death on this bread, am I?

Me: No, I know the Heimlich.

Alistair: The what?

Me: A guy from the Anderfels. Can prevent choking.

Alistair: Good to know.

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Sialater wrote...

Another reason for Anora to NEVER become Queen.  You'd think Lel would be smart enough to refuse.

*sigh* I'm going to have to like Anora this time, aren't I?  I'm going to have to think she's just feisty.  I hate that word when applied to women, makes them sounds like Pomeranians, but I'm going to have to think it all the same.

[Sialater]

Recidiva wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Another reason for Anora to NEVER become Queen.  You'd think Lel would be smart enough to refuse.

*sigh* I'm going to have to like Anora this time, aren't I?  I'm going to have to think she's just feisty.  I hate that word when applied to women, makes them sounds like Pomeranians, but I'm going to have to think it all the same.

I have no problem thinking of her as Pomeranian. 

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Sialater wrote...

I have no problem thinking of her as Pomeranian. 

I'll have to go with that in a sense memory way.  I wonder if she'd sit on my lap and let me brush her hair.

Probably, if it'd get her the throne.