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[Recidiva]

Sialater wrote...

Well, I'm an ENFP. Hope that doesn't make me a vampire! LOL

Did you have to bribe your little sister to hang out with you? 

[Recidiva]

thenyxie wrote...

Oh, okay! Just log in to your Twitter account and go here: http://twitter.com/NathanFillion and then click on the "Follow" button. Then when you go to your "Home" page, you'll only see posts of people you've decided to follow, which, if Nathan's the only one, then he's all you'll see.

They also make an option to create lists now, which means you can add all your most desired people on Twitter to one place if you don't always want to muck through the postings of other people you follow. For example: http://twitter.com/#...thenyxie/celebs I have like, 177 people I follow on Twitter, but sometimes I just wanna catch up with Nathan and NPH, you know? So I go to that list instead of my "Home" page.

OH! Also, OMG, you MUST follow Misha Collins on Twitter if you watch Supernatural. He plays Castiel, and he is funny ALL the TIME. And kinda crazy. And panders to fandom constantly without being a wuss. http://twitter.com/mishacollins

You're absolutely right. It's not the good kind of "reveal" like Sixth Sense. It's not even a reveal. It's a 180 and haha! Gotcha! If they'd made it more clear, maybe. But they seemed to take real pleasure in kicking you in the gut abruptly after the Landsmeet. I'm almost glad I didn't get to experience it firsthand without knowing about it.  Just reading about it felt like a kick in the gut when I came here. I'd have been in tears and all messed up over it if I hadn't been forewarned on my second playthrough. And even then it still sucks.

THANK you, I'm going to do this   I love Misha Collins too!  He's my favorite thing from the last two seasons.

[nyxocity]

Sialater wrote...

Well, I'm an ENFP. Hope that doesn't make me a vampire! LOL

All we extraverts are vampires in some way We thrive on energy generated by being around people, if nothing else. It's not necessarily a bad thing. I was more referencing the ones who need something from me, in terms of affirmation of themselves, or "carrying" them emotionally all the time. I can be a vampire of sorts when it comes to learning and growing together. I'm hungry for that.

[mousestalker]

thenyxie wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Well, I'm an ENFP. Hope that doesn't make me a vampire! LOL

All we extraverts are vampires in some way We thrive on energy generated by being around people, if nothing else. It's not necessarily a bad thing. I was more referencing the ones who need something from me, in terms of affirmation of themselves, or "carrying" them emotionally all the time. I can be a vampire of sorts when it comes to learning and growing together. I'm hungry for that.

It mostly gets to be a problem in a relationship. When you're single, you can make all the social decisions. But dating, living together and marriage get interesting when the two people are at extreme ends of the scale and are not sensitive to each other's needs for society.

The other problem is meetings. One of my partners is also an introvert and the other is extremely extroverted. Mr Extrovert lives a life of constant frustration as he always wants a face to face meeting, but gets outvoted two to one whenever he tries to call one. We all laugh about it.

My wife and I are both introverts. We'd probably be great lighthouse keepers, but alas and alack that job has gone the way of the dodo.

[nyxocity]

Recidiva wrote...

Supernatural is an excellent example of occasionally having Spiderman tendencies, but generally doing so to buck them.  Every time the characters argue, they do so for very good reason and they realize they're better off together than apart. And it's a family thing, not a romance thing, but it rings absolutely true for both.

And it's true that loving someone makes them your weakest spot, but it also makes them your strongest spot.

For me, for example, in DAO, I really don't care about Ferelden or power or anything like that.  I do care about my companions.  

For me I think the characters that are best written on TV for me as a romance in this respect are probably Melinda and Jim from "Ghost Whisperer."  It's a huge departure from soap opera and the one resting place where I don't really have to deal with romance being considered disposable.  And they still come up with good stories without hacking away at the fundamental romance of the characters.

I think it's because it's NOT a romance (well, not in text, anyway, but the SUBtext...) that they can buck the usual tendencies. I'm so behind the person you love being your weakest spot, but together, you're stronger than you ever could be apart. And it's entirely possible for writers to do this in a romance, too, but they never do. It's almost like if it's a romance, it has to be tragic somehow, which is just NOT TRUE. Why can't there be a romantic couple like Sam and Dean, you know? THAT'S true love, right there. I guess people just think it's not that interesting. But one of the reasons I'm a devout Supernatural fan is just THAT. They get it. Their love is more real and solid than most romantic couples I've ever seen written elsewhere.

And ditto for caring about my companions. I could care about the politics, or the power.

Don't make me want to start watching Ghost Whisperer. I have JLH issues *L*

[Recidiva]

thenyxie wrote...

I think it's because it's NOT a romance (well, not in text, anyway, but the SUBtext...) that they can buck the usual tendencies. I'm so behind the person you love being your weakest spot, but together, you're stronger than you ever could be apart. And it's entirely possible for writers to do this in a romance, too, but they never do. It's almost like if it's a romance, it has to be tragic somehow, which is just NOT TRUE. Why can't there be a romantic couple like Sam and Dean, you know? THAT'S true love, right there. I guess people just think it's not that interesting. But one of the reasons I'm a devout Supernatural fan is just THAT. They get it. Their love is more real and solid than most romantic couples I've ever seen written elsewhere.

And ditto for caring about my companions. I could care about the politics, or the power.

Don't make me want to start watching Ghost Whisperer. I have JLH issues *L*

The first few seasons of Ghost Whisperer...I cried...every...damned....time...EVERY TIME!

Most commonly heard phrase "They got me...AGAIN."

Not to mention that if you take Alistair and Hugh Jackman and Jim from that series, and take the best bits and moosh them together like...and add the ability to sing...you get my husband.  Yes, I know Hugh can sing, but think more...Tim Curry voice.

Okay, Alistair, Tim Curry, Hugh Jackman and Jim.  And Jackie Chan.

Anyway, I love him.

[Sialater]

Recidiva wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Well, I'm an ENFP. Hope that doesn't make me a vampire! LOL

Did you have to bribe your little sister to hang out with you? 

Nope, had to bribe them to leave me alone.  The pests!

[Recidiva]

Sialater wrote...

Nope, had to bribe them to leave me alone.  The pests!

I'm not going to go all astrology, but I'm a textbook Pisces and an introvert.

My daughter is a textbook Aries and an extrovert.

I got tired just being in a room with her.

[AnniLau]

wepeel_ wrote...

When people in your party die for good (like Jory and Daveth), all their items will end up in your inventory anyway, no need to strip them.

But making them do the Joining in their underpants is so amusing!

[Recidiva]

AnniLau wrote...

wepeel_ wrote...

When people in your party die for good (like Jory and Daveth), all their items will end up in your inventory anyway, no need to strip them.

But making them do the Joining in their underpants is so amusing!

Poor bastards.

I was nice this time.  They got healed and tactics and I let them keep their gear. 

[Sialater]

Recidiva wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Nope, had to bribe them to leave me alone.  The pests!

I'm not going to go all astrology, but I'm a textbook Pisces and an introvert.

My daughter is a textbook Aries and an extrovert.

I got tired just being in a room with her.

My sister and I are both Aries.  I used to be an INFP, though.  We've sorta switched.  The other sister was also way more extroverted. 


Is it just me, or do the men's tighty whiteys look REALLY uncomfortable?

[Recidiva]

Sialater wrote...

My sister and I are both Aries.  I used to be an INFP, though.  We've sorta switched.  The other sister was also way more extroverted. 

Is it just me, or do the men's tighty whiteys look REALLY uncomfortable?

Over the years, my testing has never changed.  My husband has shifted more from "heartless mercenary" to "dutiful family man."  The main factor being - whatever he chooses to do, he does it well, one testing was while in the army, the other testing after being married for a few years.

Their underwear looks kinda like tourniquets.

Modifié par Recidiva, 12 janvier 2010 - 05:40 .

[Xandurpein]

Recidiva wrote...


I'm not going to go all astrology, but I'm a textbook Pisces and an introvert.

My daughter is a textbook Aries and an extrovert.

I got tired just being in a room with her.

I don't like discussing  astrology. I gave up after this conversation with a girl I knew briefly...

Girl: What sign are you?
Me: Capricorn, but I honestly don't belive in astrology.
Girl: That is so typical of a Capricorn
Me: *sigh*

[mousestalker]

Recidiva wrote...

Sialater wrote...

My sister and I are both Aries.  I used to be an INFP, though.  We've sorta switched.  The other sister was also way more extroverted. 

Is it just me, or do the men's tighty whiteys look REALLY uncomfortable?

Over the years, my testing has never changed.  My husband has shifted more from "heartless mercenary" to "dutiful family man."  The main factor being - whatever he chooses to do, he does it well, one testing was while in the army, the other testing after being married for a few years.

Their underwear looks kinda like tourniquets.

It looks like the sort of bondage wear you might find at the Dollar General. 

[nyxocity]

Recidiva wrote...

I'm not sure I have an extraverted mode.  What's that?

Let me explain how I grew up...when I was really little I just "knew" what people wanted to hear and I said it.  I didn't know how not to.  I didn't really always have thoughts of my own.  And it doesn't really require attention.

As a matter of fact, I'm very good at learning how NOT to finish someone's sentences for them.  My problem is in...not STARTING their sentences for them. 

If someone's in a room with me, and I'm looking at them, I can probably tell which thoughts are theirs and which ones are mine.  That takes focus.  It's when someone walks BEHIND me and I start singing the song they had going on in their head that I freak people out.  The fact is that I can't really always differentiate.  It's that part of it that takes focus.  So I was the kid at the table who was passing food to people who KNOW they didn't ask for it...but I heard it in my head.  Now I learn to wait for someone actually ASKING with their voice.  I also had a tendency to pick up the phone before it rang, stuff like that.

My sister always thought I was trying to get attention, to look like I was different.  That it was just a lucky guess.  But I never passed the wrong thing to the wrong person?  I knew I just had "different" coming out my ears and it took no effort.  I wasn't a drama queen.  I was just...entirely different by nature, with no way to change it.

In a room of people, that's...unpleasant.  And it's not just thoughts, the most prevalent thing I pick up on is mood.  So someone in a foul mood around me is going to have the effect of me being out in a storm.  I'm wet, I'm cold, I'm miserable.

It took a long, long time for me to sort a lot of it out.  To say I'm a "good judge of character" goes with the territory, so it's rare I make friendships and get betrayed or that sort of thing. 

But the fact is, it's very, very hard to keep me out of someone else's head, it's not a conscious process.

My husband and kids are used to this and are accustomed to asking me to sort of...root around in their head and figure out what they're thinking.  I'm very good at helping people sort out thoughts, redecorate their inner landscape...it's another part of my nature.  That's the counselor bit. 

Part of growing up was the process of differentiating what people wanted being separate from what I wanted to do, because it took me a real long time to figure out that I was picking up on what THEY were thinking and not just what I thought about it.  I still need a lot of silence and sort of "drying out" between human contacts to really get back to what I think.  And then when I got a little older I realized that everyone else couldn't do that, and I started to feel sorry for them.

So for me it's not a conscious or an intellectual process, it's more of a "sponge" effect, where I am just going to soak up what's in my environment without any effort and also without hardly any ability to NOT do so.  And any attempt to put up any sort of shield or barrier is anathema to me, that makes me feel like I'm living life with a condom on my head.  No thanks.  I prefer the wide open spaces to the shut-in sense.  I prefer to not be protected.

As I'm a counselor by nature, it's impossible for me to not care or want to do something to help people.  It is however exhausting and takes me further away from myself the more that I indulge. 

Okay, it breaks down like this for each personality type... I'm just gonna simplify, because it's very complicated to explain. All personality types have four main aspects. If you're an 'E' your primary mode is extraverted, but your secondary mode is introverted, third is extraverted, fourth is introverted. Introverts are: introverted, extraverted, introverted, extraverted. This is for balance. Information comes in through the first extraverted mode, gets filtered through the first introverted mode, third falls in line when this is done, and fourth tows the line and stays silent. This is supposed to provide you with balance, if you can manage it. However... First mode is always what we're best at, second mode can take a lot more work for extraverts, because we're not forced  or inclined to be introspective generally. Introverts have it better in this sense, because their primary mode is intoverted, but they are forced to use their secondary extraverted function whenever interacting with other people.

For example: I'm an ENTP. This means my modes are Extraverted Intuition, Introverted Thinking, Extraverted Feeling, Introverted Sensing. Info comes in through Extraverted Intuition, and if i stop and take a moment to reflect internally, gets processed through my Introverted Thinking. My Extraverted Feeling then falls in line and supports whatever conclusions I come to. If i do not filter it thought my secondary mode, then I jump right from taking in info through my extraverted mode to putting it back out through my other extraverted mode. Third mode is always reactionary, so if the info does not agree with my first, out comes the reactionary response. Fourth is the worst. It's always the polar opposite of your first. If you never use your secondary mode, you get out of balance and the fourth kicks into gear, making you not the best person you possibly could be, to say the least, and usually very extremely reactionary.

You have Introverted Intuition, which makes a lot of sense. You get these impressions from within, with no idea where they've come from. I really wish I could find a good online explanation of how it all works with regards to first second third and fourth for INFJ's. But the basic descriptions I'm reading all back up what you've said here. It must be a very interesting way to go through life. I've always envied intoverts a bit, honestly. Being an EP gives a tendency to base self worth off others opinions. Introverts almost never have this problem.

And given all that, wow. You must have REALLY felt betrayed when Alistair suddenly turned, considering he never gave any sense of intending to do so prior to that.

[Recidiva]

Xandurpein wrote...

I don't like discussing  astrology. I gave up after this conversation with a girl I knew briefly...

Girl: What sign are you?
Me: Capricorn, but I honestly don't belive in astrology.
Girl: That is so typical of a Capricorn
Me: *sigh*

Hah!  It's only relevant when it fits.

I don't "believe" in astrology, but for personality types, it's interesting.

[Sialater]

I actually figured he was going to dump my mage elf. It was still a heck of a shock, though.

[nyxocity]

Recidiva wrote...

The first few seasons of Ghost Whisperer...I cried...every...damned....time...EVERY TIME!

Most commonly heard phrase "They got me...AGAIN."

Not to mention that if you take Alistair and Hugh Jackman and Jim from that series, and take the best bits and moosh them together like...and add the ability to sing...you get my husband.  Yes, I know Hugh can sing, but think more...Tim Curry voice.

Okay, Alistair, Tim Curry, Hugh Jackman and Jim.  And Jackie Chan.

Anyway, I love him.

Hee! He sounds very lovable. The Jackie Chan addition really makes this for me! 

[nyxocity]

Sialater wrote...

I actually figured he was going to dump my mage elf. It was still a heck of a shock, though.

Really? Why did you think so? I never would have seen it coming if i hadn't read about it on here. I never would have seen him dumping my human noble if we hadn't been at 100% during Landsmeet, either. Thankfully (sort of, i guess), we were.

[nyxocity]

I'm a Capricorn. I think when you get DEEP into astrology, beyond the drugstore brand, it can make a lot of sense (even if I don't strictly believe in it), and I find it a really interesting supplement to personality types.

[Recidiva]

thenyxie wrote...

Okay, it breaks down like this for each personality type... I'm just gonna simplify, because it's very complicated to explain. All personality types have four main aspects. If you're an 'E' your primary mode is extraverted, but your secondary mode is introverted, third is extraverted, fourth is introverted. Introverts are: introverted, extraverted, introverted, extraverted. This is for balance. Information comes in through the first extraverted mode, gets filtered through the first introverted mode, third falls in line when this is done, and fourth tows the line and stays silent. This is supposed to provide you with balance, if you can manage it. However... First mode is always what we're best at, second mode can take a lot more work for extraverts, because we're not forced  or inclined to be introspective generally. Introverts have it better in this sense, because their primary mode is intoverted, but they are forced to use their secondary extraverted function whenever interacting with other people.

For example: I'm an ENTP. This means my modes are Extraverted Intuition, Introverted Thinking, Extraverted Feeling, Introverted Sensing. Info comes in through Extraverted Intuition, and if i stop and take a moment to reflect internally, gets processed through my Introverted Thinking. My Extraverted Feeling then falls in line and supports whatever conclusions I come to. If i do not filter it thought my secondary mode, then I jump right from taking in info through my extraverted mode to putting it back out through my other extraverted mode. Third mode is always reactionary, so if the info does not agree with my first, out comes the reactionary response. Fourth is the worst. It's always the polar opposite of your first. If you never use your secondary mode, you get out of balance and the fourth kicks into gear, making you not the best person you possibly could be, to say the least, and usually very extremely reactionary.

You have Introverted Intuition, which makes a lot of sense. You get these impressions from within, with no idea where they've come from. I really wish I could find a good online explanation of how it all works with regards to first second third and fourth for INFJ's. But the basic descriptions I'm reading all back up what you've said here. It must be a very interesting way to go through life. I've always envied intoverts a bit, honestly. Being an EP gives a tendency to base self worth off others opinions. Introverts almost never have this problem.

And given all that, wow. You must have REALLY felt betrayed when Alistair suddenly turned, considering he never gave any sense of intending to do so prior to that.

That's interesting, I'll have to think about that.  I base a lot of my judgments on what I feel and what actions other people take, and their long-term track record of these things.  I base my conclusions on patterns of behavior and how well that agrees with what I 'feel' around someone.

I'm very comfortable with my husband because he's like Cordelia from Buffy.  There's an episode in Buffy where Buffy keeps picking up what people are thinking versus what they're saying.  It makes her crazy.  But the only person that stood out as different was Cordelia, who always says what she thinks.  So for me, I don't have to experience the dissonance of what's going on inside someone's head versus what they're saying when I'm around him.  He'll be blunt and he'll be honest and that's the best place for me to be.  He's not hiding behind his words.  He is who he is and that's...absolutely unique and what I need.  Otherwise it's experiencing the dissonance between who a person is internally and why they present themselves to be.  It's better for me when they harmonize.

I can get a lot of a person just by being in their physical space, and that's what I trust the most.   Very often when someone's talking to me, I'm not listening to what they say so much as how and why they say it.  And that's based on what sort of emotional tone the person has.  So my "filter" is not through the senses, so much as it is that inexplicable thing that I know I can do and I know other people can do, but we don't really know why.

If Alistair had been a real person...he'd have had an unbelievably dissonant "feel" to him and I'd have to be on the other side of everything in order to get away from him.

[mousestalker]

Our marriage is a living refutation of astrology. We are two people who, astrologically, should never ever get married. But so far it seems to have worked out. Of course because of our union the Earth may still get destroyed by some cosmic calamity. So you never really know.



On a side note, we both sat for a psychic in Jackson Square in New Orleans on our honeymoon. My wife stood behind the psychic when the lady did my reading and we swapped places when the psychic did my wife's reading. We had the readings done about an hour apart. The psychic told us each a wonderful story, but was completely off the mark. We slipped off our wedding rings before coming up to her, so the lack of rings and the absence of any sign of a ring may have thrown her.



On an even more obscure tangent, the next day was Thanksgiving. When we went to Thanksgiving dinner in the hotel restaurant (Royal Sonesta in the French Quarter) we saw almost all of the street people we saw in Jackson Square the day before eating together, including our psychic! That really was a moving picture and a memory we both treasure.

[Recidiva]

thenyxie wrote...

Hee! He sounds very lovable. The Jackie Chan addition really makes this for me! 

He is.  I guess I just have very high standards where romance is concerned.  It's kinda nice to know that people think that what I live day to day is fictional.  That's kinda cool.

It's funny to go to a game to experience something extraordinary and get lowballed on the romance.

[Zafireria]

Lol this post had me giggling pretty bad, let me have a go (if I am good at it)

Ok third playthrough.

PC: "Crap not again, how many times do I have to play through this game!?"
*looks around*
PC: Great, this time I am in Orzammar and ....." *looks down*
"WTF I am a male dwarf! You got to be kidding me, the first 2 playthrough were fine since I actually got to be the real me, aka FEMALE! There is no way I can romance Alistair now....."

(Later at the camp at Ostagar)

Duncan: "His name is Ali..."
PC: "Alistair and he is by the temple building thing. Listen I owe you a lot of thanks for saving me 3 times now at the end of the origin. But I have to tell you this, king Calian is stupid, and you ain't better. And you will both die at the battlefield by an orgre, and Loghain will go for the throne. Did I mention I am glad that you saved me?"
Duncan: "Hahaha you got humor there little man. Calian might be a bit to much into the stories of the grey warden, but he isn't stupid, and Loghain saved King Maric back in the days. But tell me, how did you know about Alistair and where he is?"
PC: ".... did you just call me 'a little man' ?! I am no man, spite it look like it at the current time but I assure you that is not the case. It is just the player of the game who thought it was about time with a sex change. And I knew about Alistair because I have romanced him for the past 2 times now, and he always stands at that f***ing temple."
Duncan: "What is a 'player'?"
PC: "..... erm the Maker?"
Duncan: "Oh I see, I guess you dwarfs have a different names for the Maker"
PC: "Right, I should go find Alistair"

(at the temple)

Alistair: "Here I thought we were getting along so well! I was even going to name one of my children after you - the grumpy one!".
*Alistair looks at the PC*
"You know, one good thing about the Blight is how it brings people together."
PC: "Yes, I do for the last time"
Alistair: "I am sorry, have we met?"
PC: "Yes!! I am your girlfriend, it might not look like it at the current moment, but it is me! I have romanced you 2 times now, we have fought darkspawn, survied against the odds, saved Ferelden. You have even been crowned as king one time!"
Alistair: "Oh.. wait, you know that I am royal? And I am sorry but I am not gay"
PC: *sighs* "This is going to be a looooooong playthrough, I knew I should have brought a videotape of our last adventure"

[nyxocity]

mousestalker wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Well, I'm an ENFP. Hope that doesn't make me a vampire! LOL

All we extraverts are vampires in some way We thrive on energy generated by being around people, if nothing else. It's not necessarily a bad thing. I was more referencing the ones who need something from me, in terms of affirmation of themselves, or "carrying" them emotionally all the time. I can be a vampire of sorts when it comes to learning and growing together. I'm hungry for that.

It mostly gets to be a problem in a relationship. When you're single, you can make all the social decisions. But dating, living together and marriage get interesting when the two people are at extreme ends of the scale and are not sensitive to each other's needs for society.

The other problem is meetings. One of my partners is also an introvert and the other is extremely extroverted. Mr Extrovert lives a life of constant frustration as he always wants a face to face meeting, but gets outvoted two to one whenever he tries to call one. We all laugh about it.

My wife and I are both introverts. We'd probably be great lighthouse keepers, but alas and alack that job has gone the way of the dodo.

I hear you there. Fortunately I have converted my husband to Myers-Briggs and we get each other even better than we did originally (which was really good to start). We're both extraverts though, and my husband extremely an extravert, which causes trouble sometimes, because we're both very outspoken people.