Sialater wrote...
Talking to a friend of mine via AIM:
Friend: So, I found out last night that my services to Ferelden are no longer needed
Me: Oh?
Friend: yeah
Me: What'd you do?
Friend: Superman just crash landed. I figure he can take care of it
sagevallant wrote...
It's not over yet, we've got to buy him about fifteen years until he becomes Superboy. Who is actually pretty whiny, maybe we should give him twenty years.
...imagine if he got turned into a Darkspawn... >_<
mousestalker wrote...
OMG! So jealous here....
Enjoy!
Seallyn wrote...
Something I found on GreyWarden.com. Holy Sh** it's awesome!
Fangirl17 wrote...
Seallyn wrote...
Something I found on GreyWarden.com. Holy Sh** it's awesome!
THAT WAS EPIC.
sagevallant wrote...
Fangirl17 wrote...
Seallyn wrote...
Something I found on GreyWarden.com. Holy Sh** it's awesome!
THAT WAS EPIC.
Duncanspawn... the beards alone could crush us all! >_<
Recidiva wrote...
It's funny how people consider certain things to be personality overlays and certain things to be true personality
Xandurpein wrote...
I think every person develops their own strategy for communication and getting attention. This is not something we are usually even aware of, although we can learn to understand it with enough self-awareness. We ultimatly all need approval from people around us in some form and we form our communication style, depending on what feedback we get.
Some kids become the "class clown" because that is a strategy thet, at least in the short term, gives them most positive attention. Others become shy and silent, because it seems to get them less negative attention. Whatever the reason is, we adopt roles that may not really be your "true self", just a mask you put on, but still something that you and those around you come to accept as part of your personality.
this is why people who have matured and changed their personality of the years, may still unconcioulsly slip into an older role, when they return to a old familiar situation. You can be one person with your normal friends and still go back into an older role with your parents or the high school reunion. Or why a man can be one person with his wife and different with his old buddies.
In some situations we can get caught in destructive patterns, because we seek approval from destructive people, then we need to change, and sometimes we need to teach ourselves to not get stuck in roles we feel constrain us, but we also need to accept that we are sometimes different persons in different situations and there is really nothing wrong with that.
Ultimately we are all like diamonds. From whatever angle we watch each other, there are always more facets on the other side, and our true self is the diamond, not just one facet.
Recidiva wrote...
Medically and psychologically, people are a great deal more unique than they're given credit. And that results in people thinking they know the answers "You use humor to deflect, grow up." or "You have a cold, take two aspirin and try to reduce your stress level." Both are equally ignorant and destructive diagnoses in a real person to whom they do not apply.
Modifié par Xandurpein, 15 janvier 2010 - 12:53 .
Xandurpein wrote...
I get that. I didn't mean to make it sound like psych 101. And I vcertainly do not mean to imply that everyone is just stimuli, far from. What i meant is that I belive that what personality we choose display is a two-way communication. It's a result of what I put into it and what people around me put into it. We are all affected by people around us, but not everyone reacts the same in the same situation. I choose how to react to you and you choose how to react to me, that exchange of free wills will eventually congeal into a relationship in wich we both will tend to assume different roles, out of habit if nothing else.
/Edit. Did that make any sense to you? It is my own thinking, not out of any text book. I never studied psychology.
Recidiva wrote...
Xandurpein wrote...
I get that. I didn't mean to make it sound like psych 101. And I vcertainly do not mean to imply that everyone is just stimuli, far from. What i meant is that I belive that what personality we choose display is a two-way communication. It's a result of what I put into it and what people around me put into it. We are all affected by people around us, but not everyone reacts the same in the same situation. I choose how to react to you and you choose how to react to me, that exchange of free wills will eventually congeal into a relationship in wich we both will tend to assume different roles, out of habit if nothing else.
/Edit. Did that make any sense to you? It is my own thinking, not out of any text book. I never studied psychology.
No, you didn't sound like psych 101, I was just elaborating
Yes, it made perfect sense.
Just fleshing out my viewpoint more clearly (I hope!).
I'm not sure we choose our real personalities. I think we can choose an overlay, but that doesn't always do as good of a job of "masking" traits we dislike as folks would like to think.
Xandurpein wrote...
You are clear. And I don't think that my belief is that those "inner qualities" that is your core self cannot be masked as well as many people want to belive either. It's more that they compliment each other. You can choose the "mask" of a comedian in some situations, but not in others, but neither says anything about your beliefs and morals. How you communicate (jokes, argumentative, silent) and what you communicate (ideas, beliefs and thoughts) are two different things. I belive as you that what you communicate eventually will shine through no matter how you try to mask it.
Modifié par Recidiva, 15 janvier 2010 - 02:46 .
Recidiva wrote...
For me, I know I'm a very good liar and manipulator. I can't really help that. Due to the way my brain works, it just sort of "pops into my head" what would be the thing another person most wants to hear. Whether or not that's moral or reasonable or whatever, I know my brain gets it and can't NOT get it.
As a result, to compensate for that tendency, I will tell people outright that I am a very good liar and manipulator. That it's very likely I'll never be caught, as I haven't been yet. And I spent large swaths of my younger life lying and stealing and cheating. I will also say that I WILL lie during times of stress and crisis, say if someone's life is in danger. I also know I can beat a polygraph and don't have many of the "reads" or outward signs of conflict that other people have when they lie.
To avoid manipulation, I'll confess what I'm thinking and be up front about it. I won't tell someone I will never lie to them. Because I know I've actually benefitted other people, to the point of saving someone's life when they're in danger, by lying to them. I've also saved my own life a few times due to subterfuge and making it look seamlessly real.
People get to choose whether or not they want to hang around that and trust that my instincts ultimately won't do them any harm if they don't try to do any harm.
So I keep my advantages in a survival sense, but I point them out to people and say that I'm also really good at camouflage. "Look, sharp teeth, sharp claws, sharp wits, weird intuition that has never steered me wrong in a crisis. Don't mess around with them and not a problem. Day to day it'll look like I don't have them at all, don't be fooled."
Modifié par AlainNagel, 15 janvier 2010 - 05:58 .
Zachriel wrote...
Well, I actually have studied psychology at least a little bit, and it's not as simple as you make it sound. Way back in the old days, when it was a new science, the general belief was that all behavior was a response to a physical stimulus. Back then, psychology was pretty barbaric.
The field has grown considerably over the decades. Now, it's more about observing human behavior and looking for discernable patterns. It's kind of a "best fit" approach. Certain behavioral patterns have been observed (like the 16 desribed in the Biggs-Myers test), and although the human psyche is far to complex to say that an indiviual just IS one of those types and WILL behave exactly as predicted, you can say that an individual's behavior fits pretty well with one of those types. Based on that, you can then predict with some degree of certaintly what how they'll react and what they'll do. That's just the starting point, though. To really understand what makes a person tick, you have to delve deeper. Find out where they're from, what they've been through, what events in their life were the most traumatic or left the greatest impression, etc. That's what a good pyschologist will do.
Then there's the field of neruobiology, the study of the brain and how it works. There have been a lot of breakthroughs in this field in the last couple of decades that I find to be truly fascinating. I read about one just a few months ago, in fact. It seems that human memory is far more malleable than we once believed. Every time we recall a memory it becomes malleable and can be changed before it gets "put away" and stored again. From a biological/evolutionary standpoint, it makes perfect sense. It allows us to add information to memory and expand our knowledge. But, there are other consequences as well. Since memory can be changed when it is recalled, embelishments added to actuall memory can be written into the memory itself to the point that we actually believe that's how it really happened.
The guy who discovered this was working with trauma victims. Rape victims, veterans suffering from PTSD, etc. He was looking for a way to help them cope with their experiences. By studying the physical processes going on in the brain during recollection, he learned how to intefere with the recollection and alteration of memory. He's developed a drug that, when injected while a victim recalls a traumatic memory, can sever the link between the memory and the emotion associated with it. Taking it a step further, another guy found a drug that's even more powerful. Inject it while a person recalls a memory, and BAM! The memory is gone. Erased from their mind as though it never happened. He even found a third drug that can wipe out whole categories of memory. Whether or not these effects are permanent remains to be seen.
When I first read about this, I thought it was pretty scary. There is extreme potential for abuse here. On the other hand, the trauma victims who volunteered for the study expressed tremendous gratitude.
Anyway, just wanted to make sure the psychologists and neurobiologists don't get taken for granted. The study of the human mind has come a long, long way.
Modifié par Recidiva, 15 janvier 2010 - 06:20 .
Zachriel wrote...
Oh, I see what you're saying. I actually work for a medical software company, so I've seen first hand how in a lot of hospitals the practice of medicine has become more about making money and less about caring for patients. I have also seen some really good hospitals that do take great care of their patients. Most of the really good ones are non profit organizations. With profit taken out of the equation, they're free to take all the time they need to give patients the care they deserve.
Herr Uhl wrote...
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