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[GME_ThorianCreeper]

I think we should have the option for a happy ending, frankly, I would most likely not go that route.

[AJRimmsey]

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

I think we should have the option for a happy ending, frankly, I would most likely not go that route.

my masseuse said the same thing

[FatalX7.0]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Seems like the highest voted ones will allow the ending to actually make some semblance of sense.

Mass Relays blowing up means every system with a relay is gone too.

And what the hell is up with Vent Boy the God Child? Why do I bend over to him? Why can't I use my decisions to prove his stupid logic wrong?

I'd love to actually see all of my War Assets fight. The Destiny Ascension obliterating a Reaper with it's main gun before being swarmed over by Destroyers, the Geth armada pulling along side to save her. The Salarian STG calling in a biotic artillery strike on cluster of Reaper troops. Wrex and Garrus, on the front sharing a stern moment in cover, before nodding to each other, brothers in arms, before charging over the barricade. Back to back, they face down hordes of husks, Wrex shouting defiantly, "You think you can take our future!? You think YOU CAN TAKE MY CHILDREN?!"
We want to see the Quarian flotilla scrambling, all guns blazing, trying desperately to form a battleline, as one of the admirals quietly turns to their crew, signalling his ship all ahead full. "For the homeworld. Keela..." their words cut off as the live-ship rams a Reaper, exploding spectacularly and damaging two others. We want to see the Normandy frantically weaving through the wreckage, Joker and EDI yelling warnings to one another as the fleets explode around them. We want Tali leading a charge of Geth Primes against a Cannibal gun line. Rachni drones swarming over a Reaper Destroyer by the thousands, pulling it apart from the inside. We want to see Grunt wrestle a brute to the ground and unload his shotgun into his head.

Vent Boy the God Child is just absolutely ridiculous. He can take his Space Magic and shove it up his godly ass.

Reuniting with his crew may be sappy or cliche, but it's certainly a much better outcome than your crew starving death in the middle of nowhere, never going back to their homeworlds, that you spent all that time saving, if that was actually real. How the hell they poofed from my side and onto the Normandy..well...

Mass Effect 2 was great. The end could either be really bad, everyone dies but you defeat the collectors, or with a bit more work, everyone is saved and you defeat the collectors.

Didn't see much of anyone complaining about that.

Personally, I don't care if my Shepard dies, most people don't, that poll is still missing over 50,000 people from the last one.

The way that poll is set up will make it seem like all we want is rainbows and unicorns. Seriously, did you even look at it?

Either we can choose the Deus Ex/Battlestar Galactica rip-off Gainax ending that most people hate, or we can choose the more upbeat options that isn't the ending we hate. Again, avoiding the contradicting problems that the ending is full of.

[gooberfish311]

Nothing wrong with wanting a happy ending where Shep and all or most of his crew survive. I certainly wouldnt mind it. I also wouldn't mind another ending where everyone dies and the Reapers win, and a few other endings inbetween. Problem is we only got one ending that plays out like its just barely a step above the Reapers winning, and throws in some nonsensical stuff to boot.

[FatalX7.0]

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

I think we should have the option for a happy ending, frankly, I would most likely not go that route.

The option would be nice, just like Mass Effect 2.

You die, or you can work even harder and live.

[Rockworm503]

I for one aren't against a happy ending per se. Making hte player work for it. But thats the point I been trying to make along it didn't matter our hard work led to the exact same thing.
At this point its just coming off as redundant go ahead and ask for a happy ending. I for one rather have an ending that actually made sense.
In all honesty the indoctrination theory is looking like the best idea.

[Lunatic LK47]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

I think we should have the option for a happy ending, frankly, I would most likely not go that route.

The option would be nice, just like Mass Effect 2.

You die, or you can work even harder and live.

This. I play my own way while Cousland plays his own way. Win win.

[aTrueFool]

gooberfish311 wrote...

Nothing wrong with wanting a happy ending where Shep and all or most of his crew survive. I certainly wouldnt mind it. I also wouldn't mind another ending where everyone dies and the Reapers win, and a few other endings inbetween. Problem is we only got one ending that plays out like its just barely a step above the Reapers winning, and throws in some nonsensical stuff to boot.

This.

[The Dark Knight of Steel]

I don't get the fuss about the ending, the only thing that didn't make sense to me was how the team I choose to come with me ended up on the Normandy, other then that no problems.

they always said this was going to be the end of shepards story and it was.

[IST]

Demyx_IX wrote...

You don't even make any sense in your result topic nor your title. But whatever, thanks for informing me about the poll.

I liked this post 

[xsdob]

I'm not fully against the mega happy ending, and it is tempting to see shepard overwhelmingly come out on top, but the fact remains that if no-one died in this happy ending, and the poll states that only the rapers suffer loses, so no one other than the reapers die in this battle, than I would be really pissed.

In the suicide mission, you were leading a squad to attack a facility that didn't know you were going to attack them, and your squad was each a specialized fighter who could easily take care of a few ground forces with ease.

But in ME3, your fighting a reaper fleet, a REAPER FLEET! Sovereign was able to destroy at least 8 heavy cruisers from the alliance, the citadel fleet, and the destiny ascension without proper intervention from the alliance, and that was while he was multitasking between wiping them out and fight you using his saren used-to-be-meat puppet.

There are over 5 sovereign class reapers in the battle, and a number of lesser reapers to deal with, fighting on what is very unequal terms given the reapers maneuverability and durability, and your telling me that not a single person on our unified front dies fighting against that armada? B.S.

Personally, I'm in the camp of ending the game right at shepard activating the console and using the crucible to wipe out the reapers, saving everyone left fighting them. Even having the original choices don't bother me as long as there is closure after that. an ending where I keep the loses bearable and not overwhelming is a happy ending for me, but one with no loses for our side in the final battle, no, just no.

Modifié par xsdob, 20 mars 2012 - 05:26 .

[Setz]

I think any ending with shepard living along with his LI should come at great sacrifice to his friends and crew.

[archanesoldier]

The Dark Knight of Steel wrote...

I don't get the fuss about the ending, the only thing that didn't make sense to me was how the team I choose to come with me ended up on the Normandy, other then that no problems.

they always said this was going to be the end of shepards story and it was.

You know you can end story of a character without killing the protagonist.  Odysseus did not die at the end of the Odyssey and Homer nor anyone else made more stories with the character.  Also I don't think there is one person who thinks the Normandy scene makes sense, so everyone should at least be in favor of removing that scene from the game.

[Artemis_Entrari]

I do think there should be an OPTION for a happy ending, but I certainly don't think it should be the ONLY ending.

It also should be extremely difficult to achieve. For instance, to even have a shot at the "happy ending", the player would have to max out their EMS, as well as solve all conflicts among the other races in an optimum way (for instance, peace between Geth and Quarian so that in the final battle both are available as war assets to him), etc. If the player fails to meet some defined "checklist" of these items, and the happy ending isn't available to them.

[archanesoldier]

xsdob wrote...

I'm not fully against the mega happy ending, and it is tempting to see shepard overwhelmingly come out on top, but the fact remains that if no-one died in this happy ending, and the poll states that only the rapers suffer loses, so no one other than the reapers die in this battle, than I would be really pissed.

In the suicide mission, you were leading a squad to attack a facility that didn't know you were going to attack them, and your squad was each a specialized fighter who could easily take care of a few ground forces with ease.

But in ME3, your fighting a reaper fleet, a REAPER FLEET! Sovereign was able to destroy at least 8 heavy cruisers from the alliance, the citadel fleet, and the destiny ascension without proper intervention from the alliance, and that was while he was multitasking between wiping them out and fight you using his saren used-to-be-meat puppet.

There are over 5 sovereign class reapers in the battle, and a number of lesser reapers to deal with, fighting on what is very unequal terms given the reapers maneuverability and durability, and your telling me that not a single person on our unified front dies fighting against that armada? B.S.

Personally, I'm in the camp of ending the game right at shepard activating the console and using the crucible to wipe out the reapers, saving everyone left fighting them. Even having the original choices don't bother me as long as there is closure after that. an ending where I keep the loses bearable and not overwhelming is a happy ending for me, but one with no loses for our side in the final battle, no, just no.

Like I said earlier I believe the choice is badly misworded.  I think it means that other than heavy looses in the fleet and ground forces no one else dies.  The no one else dies refers to no destroying all synsthetics (EDI, and Geth).  Personally I would would put back the scene where Shepard sees the two squadmates blown up during the assault that Bioware cut.  It adds more to the sense of loss if Shepard survives.

[corporal doody]

im cool with the poll...i think i voted on it..i dunno cuz the way you described the results....showed clear cut bias...so um....i dunno man. though i do agree new ENDINGS should be made....a mega happy one is kinda..i dunno...but if there are multiple ones....this should be included. a sad sad ending should be made as well

[MrAnthonyDraft]

Indoctrination theory....enough said.

But really, everything from the moment Harbinger hits you, must stay.

[Father_Jerusalem]

archanesoldier wrote...

The Dark Knight of Steel wrote...

I don't get the fuss about the ending, the only thing that didn't make sense to me was how the team I choose to come with me ended up on the Normandy, other then that no problems.

they always said this was going to be the end of shepards story and it was.

You know you can end story of a character without killing the protagonist.  Odysseus did not die at the end of the Odyssey and Homer nor anyone else made more stories with the character.  Also I don't think there is one person who thinks the Normandy scene makes sense, so everyone should at least be in favor of removing that scene from the game.

And you can end the story of a character with killing the protaganist too. Both options are equally valid storytelling techniques. Why are you insisting on forcing the "Shepard lives HAPPILY. EVER. AFTER." option down people's throats? You're demanding that they take the storytelling option that they chose, and "fix" it to cater to your whims. I just... I don't get it. 

How is demanding someone "fix" a product that ISN'T BROKEN, that just doesn't live up to your overblown expectations, not insanely selfish?

If I go to Disneyland and Splash Mountain isn't as cool as I built it up in my head to be, does that give me the right to demand Disney to "fix" it? 

[Aimi]

Fundamentally, I don't care about whether the ending is happy or sad, I just want the Reapers and their purpose to be explained in a way that makes sense.

[xsdob]

There's going to be another question out at...sometime, he really didn't specify, but it's the final question and it looks much more balanced than the others, so i'll wait and see if the results are just people voting for one aspect or if they really are that bad.

[Tigerman123]

Hahahahaha, so it's revealed that all you lot really care about are your space waifus, good to know

[archanesoldier]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

archanesoldier wrote...

The Dark Knight of Steel wrote...

I don't get the fuss about the ending, the only thing that didn't make sense to me was how the team I choose to come with me ended up on the Normandy, other then that no problems.

they always said this was going to be the end of shepards story and it was.

You know you can end story of a character without killing the protagonist.  Odysseus did not die at the end of the Odyssey and Homer nor anyone else made more stories with the character.  Also I don't think there is one person who thinks the Normandy scene makes sense, so everyone should at least be in favor of removing that scene from the game.

And you can end the story of a character with killing the protaganist too. Both options are equally valid storytelling techniques. Why are you insisting on forcing the "Shepard lives HAPPILY. EVER. AFTER." option down people's throats? You're demanding that they take the storytelling option that they chose, and "fix" it to cater to your whims. I just... I don't get it. 

How is demanding someone "fix" a product that ISN'T BROKEN, that just doesn't live up to your overblown expectations, not insanely selfish?

If I go to Disneyland and Splash Mountain isn't as cool as I built it up in my head to be, does that give me the right to demand Disney to "fix" it? 

First of all your putting words in my mouth I never said that I had to have Happy, Happy endings.  All I am saying is that there should be multiple varied options for the ending ranging from shepard surviving (bittersweat happy) to
reapers winning, and anywhere in between.  Second I am not demanding that bioware change the ending I would be perfectly fine is they just corrected/explained the plotholes.  Also my expectations were set by Biowares own words like I don't now that there would be 16 varied endings, or there would not just be an A,B,C choice ending.

Modifié par archanesoldier, 20 mars 2012 - 06:00 .

[Lunatic LK47]

Artemis_Entrari wrote...

I do think there should be an OPTION for a happy ending, but I certainly don't think it should be the ONLY ending.

It also should be extremely difficult to achieve. For instance, to even have a shot at the "happy ending", the player would have to max out their EMS, as well as solve all conflicts among the other races in an optimum way (for instance, peace between Geth and Quarian so that in the final battle both are available as war assets to him), etc. If the player fails to meet some defined "checklist" of these items, and the happy ending isn't available to them.

As long as multiplayer IS NOT MANDATORY, I'd be happy.

[Grunt420]

just finished and i want a new ending, i don't understand why joker was in the mass relay with Normandy(WTF it was really random)

[Father_Jerusalem]

archanesoldier wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

archanesoldier wrote...

The Dark Knight of Steel wrote...

I don't get the fuss about the ending, the only thing that didn't make sense to me was how the team I choose to come with me ended up on the Normandy, other then that no problems.

they always said this was going to be the end of shepards story and it was.

You know you can end story of a character without killing the protagonist.  Odysseus did not die at the end of the Odyssey and Homer nor anyone else made more stories with the character.  Also I don't think there is one person who thinks the Normandy scene makes sense, so everyone should at least be in favor of removing that scene from the game.

And you can end the story of a character with killing the protaganist too. Both options are equally valid storytelling techniques. Why are you insisting on forcing the "Shepard lives HAPPILY. EVER. AFTER." option down people's throats? You're demanding that they take the storytelling option that they chose, and "fix" it to cater to your whims. I just... I don't get it. 

How is demanding someone "fix" a product that ISN'T BROKEN, that just doesn't live up to your overblown expectations, not insanely selfish?

If I go to Disneyland and Splash Mountain isn't as cool as I built it up in my head to be, does that give me the right to demand Disney to "fix" it? 

First of all your putting words in my mouth I never said that you had to
have Happy, Happy endings.  All I am saying is that there should be
multiple varied options for the ending ranging from shepard surviving (bittersweat happy) to
reapers winning, and anywhere in between.  Second I am not demanding that bioware change the ending I would be perfectly fine is they just corrected/explained the plotholes.  Also my expectations were set by Biowares own words like I don't now that there would be 16 varied endings, or there would not just be an A,B,C choice ending.

Maybe you didn't, and I apologize for putting words in your mouth. But according to these polls, that's exactly what the majority of people want. A happy, saccharinely sweet ending with unicorns that fart rainbows and brofists and krograns bearing birthday cakes. 

And that... that breaks my heart. Because if every single person Shepard knows, if every single person Shepard's ever encountered, if every single being that Shepard's acknowledged the existence of lives happily ever after... then that completely neuters the threat of the Reapers. Is nobody's ever in danger... what the hell is the point of playing? And it breaks my heart that people want Hello Kitty Effect. It just breaks my heart.