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[sergeym1990]

Torrible wrote...

Olueq wrote...lmao. The ending ruins replayability of the entire trilogy. It is an insult to the fans. That is what the majority thinks. If they believe it ruins the game for them, then how is your opinion more accurate? Try using your brain in the future.

Not really. There is a world outside BSN you know. Profession reviewers lauded the game. Sure, be skeptical about it but Gametrailers has been consistent for me and Kevin Vanord is well respected by the gaming community. Comments from various gaming sites come mostly from users who are disappointed with the ending (or point out a few minor flaws) but recognise that the game as a whole is great and people who simply enjoy the entire game. Non-professional reviewers on youtube have also mostly praised the game. A couple like AngryJoe and JeremyJahns lambasted the ending but still strongly recommended the game to fans. It seems to me that those who trashed the entire game as worthless based on a mediocre ending ARE the minority. 

Most people feel the game is great, but the endings have such a devastating effect that they destroy all good things before them.

[Sett101]

Mattroy wrote...

As upset as I am with the endings, we shouldn't make this a part of the movement to change the endings. If you want to return your game, so be it, but I feel I got my money's worth out of the game, which is also why I'm not totally opposed to paying for a new ending piece of DLC. I can understand swearing off BioWare products in the future, but this? This, if anything, is the entitlement that all the gaming sites are proclaiming us to be exhibiting. If anyone does decide to turn in their games, I would ask you to kindly leave The Line as your opinion will hold for very little over a game that you no longer own.

Pretty sure I don't need "the movement" to tell me what to do with my cash. Don't care if they like it or not I'll wait a little while but get my refund later but if I don't need EA to tell me whats good to spend cash on sure don't need their fans to tell me anything.

[Necrotron]

Quietness wrote...

Exactly, Amazon has done  a disgustingly good job by doing this for their bottom line, they may take half the price of each key in loss, but they will so beyond make up for it. Also considering they just launched their DD service not so long ago this is like a gift on high.

I freaking love their direct download service, been checking for new sales nearly every week now.

[Nithe]

Blackmind1 wrote...

Oh Christ. This has definitely gone to your heads.

I'm afraid you may be right. We need to stay cool and remain civil with each other for this to hope to work.

[Torrible]

Olueq wrote...

Torrible wrote...

Olueq wrote...

lmao. The ending ruins replayability of the entire trilogy. It is an insult to the fans. That is what the majority thinks. If they believe it ruins the game for them, then how is your opinion more accurate? Try using your brain in the future.

Not really. There is a world outside BSN you know. Profession reviewers lauded the game. Sure, be skeptical about it but Gametrailers has been consistent for me and Kevin Vanord is well respected by the gaming community. Comments from various gaming sites come mostly from users who are disappointed with the ending (or point out a few minor flaws) but recognise that the game as a whole is great and people who simply enjoy the entire game. Non-professional reviewers on youtube have also mostly praised the game. A couple like AngryJoe and JeremyJahns lambasted the ending but still strongly recommended the game to fans. It seems to me that those who trashed the entire game as worthless based on a mediocre ending ARE the minority. 

Another person completely missing the point? Im sayign that if people believe that the endings are bad, then you ahve no right to tell them their opinion is wrong. It doesnt MATTER if they are in the minority or majority. Stupid people.... And even if they arent the majority (which I doubt considering I dont know a single person that likes the  endings) the portion of people that dont like them is large enough to warrent something being done.

You clearly stated that the majority thinks the ending ruins replayability of the entire trilogy. I merely tried to disprove that statement. No need to get mad.

[Necrotron]

sergeym1990 wrote...

Most people feel the game is great, but the endings have such a devastating effect that they destroy all good things before them.

Exactly.  Enough people feel it kills any desire to play any Mass Effect game again (myself included).

[TheNexus]

I'm not sure about this, but does Amazon sell used copies of the game? I know that Users sell the game on Amazon, but that isn't Amazon itself.

The reason I bring it up is because stores like GameStop encourage people to buy used copies of games because full revenue goes to GameStop, not the game company. Amazon might just be doing this so that they can then sell the used copies at full revenue return. It also has the added incentive of increasing customer loyalty.

[Olueq]

Torrible wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Torrible wrote...

Olueq wrote...

lmao. The ending ruins replayability of the entire trilogy. It is an insult to the fans. That is what the majority thinks. If they believe it ruins the game for them, then how is your opinion more accurate? Try using your brain in the future.

Not really. There is a world outside BSN you know. Profession reviewers lauded the game. Sure, be skeptical about it but Gametrailers has been consistent for me and Kevin Vanord is well respected by the gaming community. Comments from various gaming sites come mostly from users who are disappointed with the ending (or point out a few minor flaws) but recognise that the game as a whole is great and people who simply enjoy the entire game. Non-professional reviewers on youtube have also mostly praised the game. A couple like AngryJoe and JeremyJahns lambasted the ending but still strongly recommended the game to fans. It seems to me that those who trashed the entire game as worthless based on a mediocre ending ARE the minority. 

Another person completely missing the point? Im sayign that if people believe that the endings are bad, then you ahve no right to tell them their opinion is wrong. It doesnt MATTER if they are in the minority or majority. Stupid people.... And even if they arent the majority (which I doubt considering I dont know a single person that likes the  endings) the portion of people that dont like them is large enough to warrent something being done.

You clearly stated that the majority thinks the ending ruins replayability of the entire trilogy. I merely tried to disprove that statement. No need to get mad.

And you missed the point. And I still beleive the majority hates the endings. Like I said, I dont know a single person that likes them, and going on the BSN, it seems little different.

Modifié par Olueq, 20 mars 2012 - 05:13 .

[KotorEffect3]

evolsokar wrote...

STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS (e.g. KotorEffect3)

Because disagreeing with you makes me a troll right?

[KotorEffect3]

Olueq wrote...

Torrible wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Torrible wrote...

Olueq wrote...

lmao. The ending ruins replayability of the entire trilogy. It is an insult to the fans. That is what the majority thinks. If they believe it ruins the game for them, then how is your opinion more accurate? Try using your brain in the future.

Not really. There is a world outside BSN you know. Profession reviewers lauded the game. Sure, be skeptical about it but Gametrailers has been consistent for me and Kevin Vanord is well respected by the gaming community. Comments from various gaming sites come mostly from users who are disappointed with the ending (or point out a few minor flaws) but recognise that the game as a whole is great and people who simply enjoy the entire game. Non-professional reviewers on youtube have also mostly praised the game. A couple like AngryJoe and JeremyJahns lambasted the ending but still strongly recommended the game to fans. It seems to me that those who trashed the entire game as worthless based on a mediocre ending ARE the minority. 

Another person completely missing the point? Im sayign that if people believe that the endings are bad, then you ahve no right to tell them their opinion is wrong. It doesnt MATTER if they are in the minority or majority. Stupid people.... And even if they arent the majority (which I doubt considering I dont know a single person that likes the  endings) the portion of people that dont like them is large enough to warrent something being done.

You clearly stated that the majority thinks the ending ruins replayability of the entire trilogy. I merely tried to disprove that statement. No need to get mad.

And you missed the point. And I still beleive the majority hates endings.

And you miss my point.  I am not arguing that the endings are bad.  I am arguing that the game as a whole is very good despite the endings.

[Damien Shepherd]

Guess I'm buying more games from amazon from now on

[Quietness]

Olueq wrote...

Torrible wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Torrible wrote...

Olueq wrote...

lmao. The ending ruins replayability of the entire trilogy. It is an insult to the fans. That is what the majority thinks. If they believe it ruins the game for them, then how is your opinion more accurate? Try using your brain in the future.

Not really. There is a world outside BSN you know. Profession reviewers lauded the game. Sure, be skeptical about it but Gametrailers has been consistent for me and Kevin Vanord is well respected by the gaming community. Comments from various gaming sites come mostly from users who are disappointed with the ending (or point out a few minor flaws) but recognise that the game as a whole is great and people who simply enjoy the entire game. Non-professional reviewers on youtube have also mostly praised the game. A couple like AngryJoe and JeremyJahns lambasted the ending but still strongly recommended the game to fans. It seems to me that those who trashed the entire game as worthless based on a mediocre ending ARE the minority. 

Another person completely missing the point? Im sayign that if people believe that the endings are bad, then you ahve no right to tell them their opinion is wrong. It doesnt MATTER if they are in the minority or majority. Stupid people.... And even if they arent the majority (which I doubt considering I dont know a single person that likes the  endings) the portion of people that dont like them is large enough to warrent something being done.

You clearly stated that the majority thinks the ending ruins replayability of the entire trilogy. I merely tried to disprove that statement. No need to get mad.

And you missed the point. And I still beleive the majority hates the endings. Like I said, I dont know a single person that likes them, and going on the BSN, it seems little different.

no really, he just twists logic and flat out tramples any opinion that does not allign with his own. Just go take a deep breath and ignore the troll.

[Kulthar Drax]

Mattroy wrote...

As upset as I am with the endings, we shouldn't make this a part of the movement to change the endings. If you want to return your game, so be it, but I feel I got my money's worth out of the game, which is also why I'm not totally opposed to paying for a new ending piece of DLC. I can understand swearing off BioWare products in the future, but this? This, if anything, is the entitlement that all the gaming sites are proclaiming us to be exhibiting. If anyone does decide to turn in their games, I would ask you to kindly leave The Line as your opinion will hold for very little over a game that you no longer own.

I agree on this also. I have never said I wanted to destroy Bioware, and have never had any intention in that regards either. I'm sure most of those in the "Retake" movement feel the same way. Neither am I demanding ending DLC, but I am asking for it. The whole game was pretty much without flaw, and then you get to the last ten minutes and the entire game is negated due to the various flaws, plotholes, diabolus ex machinas etc that occur. Now, if it turns out they planned a post campaign "real ending" DLC with the indoctrination theory all along, awesome. I somehow don't think that is the case though, which is why I'm out here asking for it.

As for Amazon refunding copies of the game, that's great. If you want to do that, go right ahead. I would rather keep hold of my copy of Mass Effect 3. Although, if it turns out that Bioware do decide to refuse to create an actual ending for the game (as they did indeed promise and assure us was the case on multiple occasions prior to release), then I will probably consider selling the copy or trying to get a refund as I have little desire to replay it without an ending fix.

[Wolven_Soul]

Vandicus wrote...

This is getting a bit ridiculous. Despite its flaws Mass Effect 3 probably is and probably will remain better than 80% of the games that have been and will be released this year. It just goes to show that making a mediocre series and charging 60 bucks while staying within safe industry standards is a better business model than trying to be innovative and getting the player involved in the story. This makes me worried about both Bioware and the gaming industry.

Yeah, we got involved in the story.  Then at the end, that involvement counted for squat.  There was nothing innovative about the ending, it was lazy.  If anything makes me worried about gaming, it is companies like EA and their influence, because all they see is dollar signs.

[Olueq]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Torrible wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Torrible wrote...

Olueq wrote...

lmao. The ending ruins replayability of the entire trilogy. It is an insult to the fans. That is what the majority thinks. If they believe it ruins the game for them, then how is your opinion more accurate? Try using your brain in the future.

Not really. There is a world outside BSN you know. Profession reviewers lauded the game. Sure, be skeptical about it but Gametrailers has been consistent for me and Kevin Vanord is well respected by the gaming community. Comments from various gaming sites come mostly from users who are disappointed with the ending (or point out a few minor flaws) but recognise that the game as a whole is great and people who simply enjoy the entire game. Non-professional reviewers on youtube have also mostly praised the game. A couple like AngryJoe and JeremyJahns lambasted the ending but still strongly recommended the game to fans. It seems to me that those who trashed the entire game as worthless based on a mediocre ending ARE the minority. 

Another person completely missing the point? Im sayign that if people believe that the endings are bad, then you ahve no right to tell them their opinion is wrong. It doesnt MATTER if they are in the minority or majority. Stupid people.... And even if they arent the majority (which I doubt considering I dont know a single person that likes the  endings) the portion of people that dont like them is large enough to warrent something being done.

You clearly stated that the majority thinks the ending ruins replayability of the entire trilogy. I merely tried to disprove that statement. No need to get mad.

And you missed the point. And I still beleive the majority hates endings.

And you miss my point.  I am not arguing that the endings are bad.  I am arguing that the game as a whole is very good despite the endings.

And Im saying that for some people, thendings ruin the whole game and that you ahev no right to tell them otherwise. Because thats an opinion.

[lyssalu]

lmaoaoaoaoaoa

oh man this is too much

[shephard987]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

evolsokar wrote...

STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS (e.g. KotorEffect3)

Because disagreeing with you makes me a troll right?

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Olueq wrote...

This is exactly what we do not want in our movement. 
Bickering and raising our hopes up.
You should know that this protest will last for a while, 
so one should not hold on to these things like blankets.
Amazon did right in my eyes. THEY are listening to the fans.
So, now we move on. This was a small victory for us. 
BUT WE HAVE A BATTLE TO FINISH
So, don't fight between each other, acknowledge what is happening
and for god's sakes,

Hold the Line

Modifié par shephard987, 20 mars 2012 - 05:17 .

[Alamar2078]

I tend to agree that we shouldn't fight each other. In the end we're all fans of the ME series and passionately care about its future.

All of us wants to see BW succeed and do the right thing.

While we may not all agree on the way to get BW to succeed we should treat each other like the brothers that we are instead of "the enemy".

[BuckHammer]

Amazon is good people.

[Nithe]

TheNexus wrote...

I'm not sure about this, but does Amazon sell used copies of the game? I know that Users sell the game on Amazon, but that isn't Amazon itself.

The reason I bring it up is because stores like GameStop encourage people to buy used copies of games because full revenue goes to GameStop, not the game company. Amazon might just be doing this so that they can then sell the used copies at full revenue return. It also has the added incentive of increasing customer loyalty.

I hadn't considered the used game angle, that's a good point. Though, it's questionable how many copies they could re-sell given recent events... that is, if there is no new ending DLC; but if Bioware does end up releasing something then Amazon is primed to make a nice bundle of money.

Modifié par Nithe, 20 mars 2012 - 05:18 .

[Quietness]

BuckHammer wrote...

Amazon is good people.

Good or not, they are definently smart as heck to capitialize on this.

[Darthlawsuit]

I would be tempted if I hadn't bought mine at gamestop. Although me and my friends do enjoy multiplayer so I probably wouldn't anyways. Even if single player is **** at least DICE didn't let the multiplayer get ruined.

[Hydralysk]

Alamar2078 wrote...

I tend to agree that we shouldn't fight each other. In the end we're all fans of the ME series and passionately care about its future.

All of us wants to see BW succeed and do the right thing.

While we may not all agree on the way to get BW to succeed we should treat each other like the brothers that we are instead of "the enemy".

This cannot be restated enough.

[UKillMeLongTime]

TheNexus wrote...

I'm not sure about this, but does Amazon sell used copies of the game? I know that Users sell the game on Amazon, but that isn't Amazon itself.

The reason I bring it up is because stores like GameStop encourage people to buy used copies of games because full revenue goes to GameStop, not the game company. Amazon might just be doing this so that they can then sell the used copies at full revenue return. It also has the added incentive of increasing customer loyalty.

Yep and they give great prices on trades and its so easy. You print a ups label and have a week to drop it in a box. Costs you nada but a piece of paper. They get it in a few days at a processing place in NJ i think and you get a creditt that can be spent on anything they sell, not just games

i got halo reach played it 5 weeks returned it for 40 bucks. They also gave me 2 bucks when i bought it so i played it for free. I dis better on BF3 i made 27 dollars profit on that game

amazons great

[Nithe]

Quietness wrote...

BuckHammer wrote...

Amazon is good people.

Good or not, they are definently smart as heck to capitialize on this.

Indeed.