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[PaulSX]

will buy if the game is good. What I can say for sure is BioWare will no longer get any pre-order from me.

[Icycle1933]

Unless new endings are provided for Mass Effect 3, then I can honestly say I'm never going to preorder another Bioware game again.  I can also say that I will never buy a new Bioware game.  Instead, I'll wait for positive fan and website reviews.  If the reviews are good, I will buy the game---used, so as to not give Bioware any more of my money.

I'm really disappointed I am even typing this, but it's true.  Never before has any game company actually brought me to the point of refusing to support them any more.

As countless other have said, Mass Effect 3 was an incredible game except for the last ten minutes.  Personally, I don't feel like playing through with any of my other characters or replaying the first two games.  The way I see it, there's no point since everything leads to the same ending.

[EDIT]

Originally posted by AmaraDark

I bought Dragon Age cold, without seeing a
single review, trusting entirely on their
reputation + how much I had enjoyed their
prior games. Their RPG's have been a wonderful
escape, drawing me into the world's they've
created and connecting me to the characters.
This was  the one video game company I utterly
respected.

That's exactly what I did for Dragon Age Origins too. ^.^

Modifié par Icycle1933, 20 mars 2012 - 10:49 .

[Coolfaec]

I'll buy them if they're good, but I'm buying them used, so BioWare never sees a cent of it. Whether they fix the ending, or not.

Same goes for EA. Ruining Mass Effect was the last straw.

Modifié par Coolfaec, 20 mars 2012 - 10:46 .

[pmc]

 Yes.

[SaladinDheonqar]

The ME series was the only Bioware franchise I had any interest left for anyway. Now they've gone and screwed that up, why should I care about a company that lies to us and comes up with increasingly dastardly ways of squeezing our wallets? Brand loyalty isn't forever. Once the trust is gone, and they're no longer what made you love them in the first place, why would I keep paying them to screw me? If Bioware/EA actually learns from this ending & dlc debacle, and shows it in future releases, I might just consider buying their products. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening any time soon. They've probably already lined up release day dlcs for DA3 and the devs will lie their asses off to appeal to the fanbase to buy it.

[RoamerZA]

I can honestly say I will not buy any Mass Effect DLC unless the ending is addressed.

If it is not, I'll never preorder a BW game again, and wait for user reviews to come out and make a decision, but I am not sure how I would approach the next Mass Effect series if this one is not fixed. I do not want to invest five years in characters to be be given the middle finger in the last 10 minutes.

[bo_7md]

No, but in the past i bougth Bioware games for Bioware known quality and worth in gameplay vs money. Now that i have played and found that i'm seriously hindered because i didn't play the Multiplayer in my single player campaign i'm dissapointed and feel that a 2nd playthrough is more of "oh no not again" rather than " One more ? Hell Yeah" kinda of thing. To think that i took time off work to play this =/

[Jitawa]

I told myself after the DA2 fiasco that ME3 was Bioware's chance to "make good" for all the problems in that game. I remember being annoyed at the lack of agency of our character, and how our decisions ultimately didn't matter as far as the ending was concerned. The game was basically unfinished, dull, and buggy as hell. I'd paid extra for a collector's edition of a broken game. It was a betrayal of sorts.

I'd liked ME2, and I definitely hope that franchise would reach a fitting conclusion. I don't play MMOs. So, the stage was set to see if Bioware could fix their previous mishaps. It's not just a matter of plot holes or bad endings you understand. There's a larger picture here. It's about a respect for the consumer (not nickle and diming them), respect for the story/lore/medium (plot holes, deus ex machina, being the compansocial.bioware.comgiving you none), and quality (games should not be buggy messes).

I don't think ME3 was a bad game, but how they decided to disregard the agency of the player in the conclusion. That was bad. The plot holes in the END of a trilogy. That's bad.

It represents a change in dynamic to me. What was a meticulously crafted world in Dragon Age:Origins that provided you with choices of beginning, paths to the end, and endings.... becomes a stale, rushed, lore-ignoring, repetitive, on-rails, over-marketed and dreary affair in DA2.

Not even a horrible game necessarily, but a pale shadow of what Bioware had made before.

ME3 didn't have all the same problems. The scenes with Mordin ("I made a MISTAKE!") were a well-crafted payoff to both his character and the issues we first learned of in ME1. But the promises of our choices mattering were all for naught. Everything we did gets reduced a "Number" that's ultimately largely irrelevant to the game and has no narrative impact.

Those choices that were supposed to matter are bereft of any visceral impact, they're tallied for a meaningless number that has little-to-no visible impact on an ending that makes no sense that we have little impact on in turn. An admittedly amusing MP portion can bolster that meaningless number in far greater excess than any choice we ever made, rendering galaxy-altering decisions stupid and trivial. If it's just a number, who cares? If it doesn't impact the ending, who cares? If we never SEE anything of it in the finale, who cares?

This trend of removal of choice is the chilling aspect of the past couple bioware games. Remember when Bioware trumpeted how they made games with choices that matter? That JRPGs with their on-rails stories aren't really RPGs at all? Yeah. Introducing a random evil deity at the end and giving you no real choices is totally not like a JRPG at all. If all you offer is the "illusion" of choice and a supposed strong narrative, Bioware basically is a JRPG maker now.

The ending is insulting to anyone that invested any time or faith in the idea that our choices were going to matter in this series. An investment of time measured in years. That's not time I can see myself apparently wasting in the future, if this situation remains as-is. It's a simple choice. Why do business with a company that's going to outright lie about the content of their games?

[LightweightJustice]

To be honest. I don't know.
DA 2 was the first call of the future troubles to come and now ME 3 (and I'm talking not only about ending). I might buy ne but only after waiting a couple of weeks, to see the reaction.

[ShinAnubisXIII]

Depends on how they deal with this ME3 ending debacle. If nothing changes, then Bioware is dead to me...

[Vilegrim]

hell Beamdog are looking for kick start funds to do Baldurs Gate 3... how awesome would that be?

[Exolyps]

ME1 and ME2 I borrowed from a mate to play. I loved them, so I decided I'd pay for ME3 to give the company some hard deserved money (at least that's what I thought at the time).

But to be honest, I regret doing it. And unless this mess is fixed, I won't do it again.

[ofs ovafragga]

Well, I still have hope they will fix this. But the more they keep us waiting the more Bioware will loose their place in my list of favourite game studios, and of course it will be easier not buying a Bioware game. There are other great gamestudios waiting for this place. And day by day it is harder not let them take it.

So yea, i can honestly say, if there's nothing done, I would definitely not preorder their games anymore and if I have to choose about several games it would definitely affect my choices which ones I gonna buy next, because Bioware would be last one on my list. I would not forget the disappointment and frustration of playing hundreds of hours ME1, ME2 just to see everything blown up. 

Modifié par ofs ovafragga, 20 mars 2012 - 11:21 .

[dirtnasty91]

I have been and will stay a loyal Bioware fan no matter what. Just because the ending wasn't what i hoped it would be doesn't ruin anything for me and i will keep buying anything they put i think looks interesting whether it be another collectors edition and dlc.

[OrumLeader]

I'll never buy a Bioware game again on blind faith or ever pre-order a game from them again.  If there is a game in the future i'm interested in, i will ignore their marketing hype and rely on consumer feedback after release to base my buy decision on.

If they make an effort to address the endings, that feeling my change somewhat; However, I'm not sure i will ever fully trust them again to dilever a "complete" and "coherent" story where as before that notion was unquestionable to me.

Bottom line, when a business "burns" a customer, its hard to get that trust back.

[vahnfox]

Nope. Never again.

[Blynkmk2]

Definitely won't be buying ME3 DLC unless it addresses the conclusion in a really high-quality way. Nor will I preorder other games - I'll wait for fan reviews and if they are overwhelmingly positive I'll pick them up when the price drops.

[Chuvvy]

I can honestly say I'll never buy another bioware game regardless of what they do with the ending.

[Chuvvy]

Blynkmk2 wrote...

Definitely won't be buying ME3 DLC unless it addresses the conclusion in a really high-quality way. Nor will I preorder other games - I'll wait for fan reviews and if they are overwhelmingly positive I'll pick them up when the price drops.

The reviews for ME3 were overwhelmingly positive.

[pharsti]

Here, not buying another one, not worth supporting.
Best case scenario, only used games.

[crimzontearz]

Bioware games are about Emotional Investment

if THIS is what they do with it then yeah I am definitely NOT buying another one of their games

[Blynkmk2]

Slidell505 wrote...
The reviews for ME3 were overwhelmingly positive.

I said fan reviews.  I don't give gaming publication reviews the time of day.

[S Atomeha]

 as someone who supported bioware the entire time i started heavily gaming, i'm sad to say i'm nearly at breaking point.

[tybbiesniffer]

I'm with the group that wouldn't pre-order again on blind faith; I'd start giving their games the same consideration I give any other developer. And, honestly, if they force multi-player on the players again, I won't buy the game at all, regardless of the story quality and reviews. As much as I feel there was no resolution in ME3 (and I detest that), what I find most insulting is the punishment for not playing multi-player in a single-player franchise.