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[Adam2190]

If they don't resolve the ending issue then i won't be pre-ordering from them in the future. If they mess up Dragon Age 3 then i could very well be done with them for good.

[Malakar1]

no, I probably won't buy stuff day one and I'll need a lot of convincing before spending my money on EA products. It's about the ending though, I have issues with the game itself (and dragon age) not only the ending. I like the conversation I had with the DA people on the forum though. It seems like a step in the right direction. I just hope it will end up paying off. I'll wait and see.

[kalamity116]

Entirely depends on what they do in the extremely near future. DA2 was a huge screwup, but that alone can be overlooked. Screwing up an otherwise fantastic franchise with a single pitiful ending, then covering their ears or releasing half-baked DLC however, would be something else. Time will tell.

[dragonsrage012]

I can say I will never pre-order another Bioware game. In fact I probably wont ever pre-order another game ever again. I will probably just wait 6 months to a year for the price to drop to around 20 or 30 bucks. That way if I dont like the game or find issues with playability I wont feel as cheated. I love story telling games and I have ran into this same issue many times where the ending felt rushed, incomplete, or lost. A lot of times with story games for some odd reason the studios dont know how to wrap them up either because they planned for more content and ran out of time or they just lost track somewhere along the way.

So pre-order for me no mater the game or studio from this point forward is a big no no for me. I just wont ever do it again. This one game has killed it for me.

[Jaysh]

Yes.

[DaosX]

Well, with this whole debacle, I'm pretty much guaranteed never to preorder Bioware games ever again. If this whole thing doesn't get resolved with them giving us the rest of the game we bought without nickel and diming, then I'm done with Bioware as a whole. If I'm REALLY desperate, I'll borrow a friend's or buy it used. If they're going to sell me 2/3 of a game, why should I pay full price for it?

[ArenCordial]

Easily. I really didn't like DA2, but I figured one game isn't anything to base a decision like that on and decided Bioware would get a second chance with ME3. DA2 I can sum up as bad design decisions to deal with some other criticism of DA:O (though I felt they were minor and DA:O was an excellent game).

Now I feel that I was intentionally deceived. If Bioware doesn't come through on their efforts to correct this...well this isn't like the 90's, where AAA titles were far between. There are a few AAA titles released every few months. There are alternatives.

[Vhalkyrie]

It has affected one purchase I was planning to make, at least. I wanted to buy Kingdoms of Amalur. While it is not Bioware, it is EA. I'm on the hunt for something else to play, but I am deliberately avoiding EA titles.

[GabrielK]

Just to add another point: I can say with 100% certainty that I wouldn't see any point in playing any ME related content/DLC/expansion/title/whatever that takes place prior to the (current) ending of ME 3.

[eventhewaves]

I can, yeah. I'm done supporting these guys' future games. Might or might not support the rest of the ME3 cycle -- if they actually fix the ending, and I have strong doubts about that. That'll be solely out of residual affection for Shepard, who really deserved more after three games of laughing in the face of the impossible than forcibly bending the knee to the leader of the enemy faster than a New Avenger flees Miami.

(And seriously, some parts of the ending seem like the most aggressively unpossible ideas I've been expected to believe in a narrative I previously, mostly respected.  I don't forgive that kind of stuff.)

I mean, BioWare is customarily known for story and characterization, and the big finish to their current flagship franchise pretty well demolished any trust I had in them to deliver either one going forward. There are other games, there are other franchises, and life's really too short.

Modifié par eventhewaves, 23 mars 2012 - 04:00 .

[ArenCordial]

eventhewaves wrote...

I can, yeah. I'm done supporting these guys' future games. Might or might not support the rest of the ME3 cycle -- if they actually fix the ending, and I have strong doubts about that. That'll be solely out of residual affection for Shepard, who really deserved more after three games of laughing in the face of the impossible than forcibly bending the knee to the leader of the enemy faster than a New Avenger flees Miami.

(And seriously, some parts of the ending seem like the most aggressively unpossible ideas I've been expected to believe in a narrative I previously, mostly respected.  I don't forgive that kind of stuff.)

I mean, BioWare is customarily known for story and characterization, and the big finish to their current flagship franchise pretty well demolished any trust I had in them to deliver either one going forward. There are other games, there are other franchises, and life's really too short.

Well said.

[troyk2027]

I only liked Bioware because of ME and DA.
DA2 was just bad, and they sent the ME universe back to the dark ages in that stupid ending, so what else am I going to buy from them?

It's not even out of spite, I'm not boycotting them, but they just keep ****ing everything up all the time, and I don't trust them to stop.

Modifié par troyk2027, 23 mars 2012 - 04:03 .

[Twiggy]

'Never' is not a word that should be thrown around lightly. So no, I won't say that I will never buy another Bioware game ever again. But I'm done with the pre-ordering/special editions/merch thing for the moment - the fan girl in me is taking a vacation. Mostly because I don't feel like I can trust them to give me a polished product - which in the case of ME3 is an issue of bringing a good story to completion. As for ME4 (which is wholly theoretical) - as things stand, I have no further interest in the Mass Effect Universe - not in playing future games or in replaying the current releases.

[Captiosus77]

I can easily say - and stand behind the statement - that it would be the last BioWare game I purchase even after supporting them from the beginning. This is due not only to the ending issue of ME3, but also DA2, and several issues with TOR.

I cannot, on the other hand, say I'd never buy a game by EA again because, unfortunately for all gamers, it seems the gaming industry is being funneled down into mega-publishing houses. Right now, if you really stop and think about it, there are four mega publishers responsible for the vast majority of games: EA, Activision/Blizzard, Ubisoft, and Sony Computer Entertainment. Microsoft and Nintendo have good IPs in their stable, but not as many as the aforementioned four.

Boycotting EA would, almost literally, mean boycotting a major chunk of the industry. This is precisely why I've been against these big publishers gobbling up, either through acquisition or exclusivity contract, developers and why I believe sports leagues should never give exclusive license to one publisher. It's bad for gamers and it's bad for the industry.

Modifié par Captiosus77, 23 mars 2012 - 04:05 .

[seek37]

the only games i am looking forward to in the foreseeable future are mostly bioware's, but if they prove to be so capable of messing up a story then why would I invest more time an money for a fistful of disappointment? so yes, my consumer title for bioware hinges heavily on these next few months.

edit: probably will just migrate to activision/blizzard just toward avoid EA also...

Modifié par seek37, 23 mars 2012 - 04:18 .

[SillyNydia]

Dragon Age universe was run into the ground... Mass Effect is finished (for lack of a better term) Was never much interested in their other games and I'm not a huge fan of Star Wars.

Mass Effect was my main interest, after beating 3 I had planned to go back and replay the trilogy but with the current ending I can't pull myself to do it because it seems pointless. They know they messed up, even though they will never admit to it.

If they fix it and add some real closure/consequences of your actions (as free dlc/patch) <-- As a sign of good will, I'll gladly purchase games from them in the future.

If not then I'm done. I don't have much faith in Bioware anymore, especially after Muzyka's blog post, which everyone seems to mark as a pinnacle of hope. "Our first instinct is to defend our work and point to the high ratings offered by critics." While he goes on to say, "But out of respect to our fans, we need to accept the criticism and feedback with humility." It shows that the fans still come 2nd and the only reason there is a response is because of the massive outcry of the community.

If your first instinct is to essentially say F you, then you don't have respect for your customer.

[p__q]

Would I buy a game knowing that it was done by the same writing staff that did ME3? Honestly no, I don't want to pay £40 for an unpleasant experience (while I admittedly loved parts of ME3 I'm looking at it as a whole). If the endings are changed (near enough the only thing which ruined my experience) and I could actually bring myself to play ME3 again would my opinion change? Maybe, I'd still have lost trust in bioware but I could hope that lessons would be learned about judging fan reaction's and hiding behind critic reviews, I really would like to trust bioware again :/

[alliance4g63]

Yes and no.. Mass Effect was the only game keeping me loyal to them. They used to be my favorite developer. So I will never pre-order, do a midnight release or even day one a Bioware game again. And I really think the only games I will ever purchase from them would be KOTOR3 and possibly(slim) ME4. And those games will be purchased way after release and probably used. Burned too many times by Bioware this gen.

[lnccplbunbun]

Just talked with a friend who had been waiting until the series was complete to play. I told her that the series is still not complete and she should hold onto her money for the moment.

While losing the "vocal minority" here may not seem important, the people who care about games enough to go to forums and post are precisely the ones who make recommendations, point our friends to new games, and have been Bioware's biggest supporters from the beginning.

Just to be clear, I'm not telling anyone to boycott Bioware or never play their games. I'm still planning to buy if the reviews are good, but not pre-order or start incomplete series (which inherently includes MMORPG's).

Modifié par lnccplbunbun, 24 mars 2012 - 09:25 .

[toolfan9284]

Yes, there are other developers and production teams out there that I enjoy that I could walk away from BW and EA.

[Leninsaurus]

I won't buy anything and not follow any news on development of their games like I used to. Especially not the ME-team. If I happen to hear from people whose opinions I trust that any new game they produce is actually pretty good, I might buy it if it becomes cheaper and I've some money/time to spare.

[King_Gabs]

nope. no thank you.

[Aisynia]

The more I'm learning this week, the more I'm pretty sure I'm done. At the very least, I'm never pre-ordering again. I will not buy another BioWare product unless it's been out for some time, and I can be assured by people who have played it that it is worth it.

In other words, unless BioWare redeems themselves and learns from the mess they've presided over for the last two years, it's looking very, very unlikely.

Modifié par Aisynia, 24 mars 2012 - 08:28 .

[Kastrenzo]

Not like they ever made any other games that I enjoyed.


Generals 2 by Bioware victory isnt' even a true BW, It's a BW Label slapped on the remnants of that failed studio that made the last Medal of Honor game. If I'm not mistaken.

I won't be buying it either way anyway.

[Phaedros]

Vhalkyrie wrote...

It has affected one purchase I was planning to make, at least. I wanted to buy Kingdoms of Amalur. While it is not Bioware, it is EA. I'm on the hunt for something else to play, but I am deliberately avoiding EA titles.

Same as.

The start of the decline in Bioware games coincides exactly with their acquisition by EA.