Yes. Yes, I could indeed. Dragon Age 2 was a horrible let-down for me already. After that, I was skeptical about Mass Effect 3 as well. When I heard that Karpyshyn left even more so. When I saw the gameplay footages, I was growing optimistic again. Playing the demo really made me think "Wow, this is gonna be fantastic." Playing the game itself made me incredibly curious about the purpose, origin and reasoning behind the extinction cycle and the Reapers, but...
Seeing the end felt like a punch right to the stomach. It was bad in every way I could have imagined. It was depressing, shallow, offered no closure to the squadmates' and the galaxy's open stories, no way for Shepard to become a living legend, not even a small bit of your decisions made a difference after all. It felt like an even worse let-down than Dragon Age 2, even though I enjoyed the entirety of Mass Effect 3 up to the point where Shepard's body gets warped up to the godchild. It felt terrible and I have yet to find any logical reasoning as to why Bioware would do this and how they could possibly justify this ending to be the real ending after all. I, as a fan of the series all the way from it's beginning, feel hurt, ignored, betrayed and deceived.
And I do not only blame EA for this, no, I blame both Bioware AND EA for this. Both worked on this game and both are equally to some degree responsible for this mess of an ending and until they find a way to somehow fix the ending of Mass Effect 3 so it gives us, the players and loyal customers, a satisfying ending to the best sci-fi saga I have ever experienced, I refuse to pay Bioware or EA one more buck for whatever they produce.
The community has given enough ideas as to what could be changed or at least explained about the ending (Indoctrination Theory, scrapping parts of the ending entirely, adding an Epilogue, explaining the Starchild so that we get more insight as to what the Reapers were all about in the end after all). I think it is up to you Bioware and EA now to make a change for the better happen, because leaving it as it is might cost you more than you might think.
You would certainly lose me as a loyal fan. That much is clear.
Can you honestly say you would never buy another bioware game?
Débuté par
miagnew
, mars 20 2012 05:35
#201
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 07:43
#202
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 08:05
would I buy another Bioware game, no
would I buy another EA game,yes I am definitley going to ,NHL13,MOH:Warfighter and Dead Space 3
would I buy another EA game,yes I am definitley going to ,NHL13,MOH:Warfighter and Dead Space 3
Modifié par VirtualSoldier27, 20 mars 2012 - 08:07 .
#203
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 08:10
If ME4 would be about rebuilding the galaxy with the option to import a Shepard that survived the destroy ending... Who am I kidding? I'd be all over that game. If this "ah yes, "conclusion"" goes completely unadressed however.. The BioWare has lost a loyal and rabid customer that until a week ago had an entire shelf reserved for BioWare-only games and merchandise.
#204
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 08:31
Setz wrote...
So they **** up ONE game and you guys just drop them? Jeeze hate to be in a relationship with any of you. Pure perfection all the time please...
No matter how much you love your girlfriend, you still break up with her if you find her in bed with another man. Lots of things can be forgiven, some things are just crossing the line to far.
#205
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 08:34
Let's take a look at Bioware's track record for a second.
Dragon Age II: Completely killed the Dragon Age series for me and I doubt the third installment will be any better.
Mass Effect 3: Good, although the ending completely ruined it for me. I'm also slightly unhappy about the laziness of other aspects of the game (stock photos), but I can move past that.
The Old Republic: Too much like WoW for me, so my subscription did not last long.
Oh, and they've also remained silent as the media attacks their loyal fan base.
Can I drop Bioware? Yes.
Do I plan to if they continue ignoring us? Yes.
Dragon Age II: Completely killed the Dragon Age series for me and I doubt the third installment will be any better.
Mass Effect 3: Good, although the ending completely ruined it for me. I'm also slightly unhappy about the laziness of other aspects of the game (stock photos), but I can move past that.
The Old Republic: Too much like WoW for me, so my subscription did not last long.
Oh, and they've also remained silent as the media attacks their loyal fan base.
Can I drop Bioware? Yes.
Do I plan to if they continue ignoring us? Yes.
#206
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 08:36
I'll probably get DA3 if it's not completely abandoning what I did in DA:O.
#207
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 08:39
@OP:
I can definitively say I would not buy ME4. Other products I would wait and see. But I absolutely would not pre-order or snag collector's editions or go around hyping their products to my friends, as I have previously done. But after the first couple price drops, yeah I might pick up a well-received BioWare product.
I can definitively say I would not buy ME4. Other products I would wait and see. But I absolutely would not pre-order or snag collector's editions or go around hyping their products to my friends, as I have previously done. But after the first couple price drops, yeah I might pick up a well-received BioWare product.
#208
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 08:41
if Dragonage and Mass Effect are what they are pedaling, I've been burned enough to be able to give a firm, "yes"
#209
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 08:41
It's not hard for me, considering Mass Effect was the only Bioware franchise I cared to play. I'm just not that big into Star Wars or the fantasy genre.
#210
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 08:49
I can honestly say I would never buy another Mass effect game, DLC or related product - on principle alone....if they don't 'fix' the ending of ME3. Would I never buy anything else they produce? Can't say. I will however, no longer pre-order, recommend or buy any product at full price. And if there's any indication from reviews or user opinions that they drop the ball again with any future products I will take that as my cue to drop Bioware altogether.
This ME3-ending controversy has shown me it's wise to be cautious, rather than trusting Bioware like I did before.
This has the fortunate side effect(to me) that I expect to find myself with more time on my hands to play games from other companies. I seriously need to catch up on the other games out on the market right now.
This ME3-ending controversy has shown me it's wise to be cautious, rather than trusting Bioware like I did before.
This has the fortunate side effect(to me) that I expect to find myself with more time on my hands to play games from other companies. I seriously need to catch up on the other games out on the market right now.
#211
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 08:54
Never is a very strong word. However, I definitely do not plan to buy another Bioware game, and I will have to think very long and hard before buying an EA game in general.
#212
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 08:57
I don't know, I honestly want to believe that DA2, TOR, and ME3 were just...flukes. Each one had it's merit, and good points to it. But each of those games was a fairly big let down to me in one fashion or another.
I don't care if there are people who enjoy them. There are lots of things that some people enjoy that I do not. I could go on about problems with each of the last three games I've been disappointed with, but there's no real point. I'm not certain I want to buy another Bioware RPG. They've got plenty more fans that like what they're doing, losing me as a fanboy isn't going to hurt them.
I don't care if there are people who enjoy them. There are lots of things that some people enjoy that I do not. I could go on about problems with each of the last three games I've been disappointed with, but there's no real point. I'm not certain I want to buy another Bioware RPG. They've got plenty more fans that like what they're doing, losing me as a fanboy isn't going to hurt them.
#213
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 09:01
Yes I can honestly say this as well. I have preordered every collectors edition of Bioware's since I can remember. After being pretty disappointed in DA2 and after the mess of an ending of ME3, if they do not add on the ending of ME3, my business will be taken elsewhere. Not even a hesitation.
#214
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 09:03
I cannot honestly say I'll never buy another bioware game.
But what will likely happen is that I will not pre-order as many bioware games out of hat. Instead I'll let others shift through it for me and then decide at a later date to get it or not to get it. This generally results in fewer purchases overall which is something the company shouldn't want.
I do the same thing with Ubisoft games. I still don't have all the Assassin's Creed games and generally get them for bargain basement prices after the fact with all the DLC and find out they are just as enjoyable if not more so. Either way means less money for Ubi, and the reason for that dates back to the old Pools of Radiance game in the 90's where it would delete critical windows files on uninstall.
Do a ****** poor job and I don't have a problem holding grudges for decades.
But what will likely happen is that I will not pre-order as many bioware games out of hat. Instead I'll let others shift through it for me and then decide at a later date to get it or not to get it. This generally results in fewer purchases overall which is something the company shouldn't want.
I do the same thing with Ubisoft games. I still don't have all the Assassin's Creed games and generally get them for bargain basement prices after the fact with all the DLC and find out they are just as enjoyable if not more so. Either way means less money for Ubi, and the reason for that dates back to the old Pools of Radiance game in the 90's where it would delete critical windows files on uninstall.
Do a ****** poor job and I don't have a problem holding grudges for decades.
Modifié par the-cniht, 20 mars 2012 - 09:04 .
#215
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 09:04
I have no plans to buy any other EA product at this point, it is becoming clear that the Bioware that made great games is dead.
#216
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 09:06
I can honestly say that in my 23 years of life I have never encountered a situation like this. Why? After Dragon Age 2, I assumed the situation of quality was isolated and I let it go and forgave it. Now, with the atrocious ending of Mass Effect 3 and the zero defense Bioware has given its vocal and passionate fan base, I have for the first time in my life become hesitant of a future purchase from a specific developer. It is truly a surreal and unnerving feeling.
#217
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 09:07
I m never buying another BW game again unless they do something about the endings. Even if i should feel compelled to buy something from them again, i ll buy a used copy. I not throwing my money at them again (big mistake preordering ME3, btw)
#218
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 09:07
it's unlikely mass effect 3 will be my last bioware game if the ending is changed. But I will always be a little hesitant from now on.
If the ending isn't fixed I can safely say this will be my last bioware game with the exception of a pre-owned bargain bin purchase or possibly a hire.
If the ending isn't fixed I can safely say this will be my last bioware game with the exception of a pre-owned bargain bin purchase or possibly a hire.
#219
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 09:08
Well after dragon age 2 and now this im thinking, next one, read reveiws, wait for forum feed back then maybe get it. no pre orders next time i think, that trust has gone.
#220
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 09:09
For me, that very much depends on how this whole issue plays out in the end. But I will say that there is chance I will give future products a very wide birth if there is no satisfactory solution.
#221
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 09:11
Never is a long time. I don't think anyone could one hundred percent say they would never do something; circumstances change, people get new information.
Disregarding that, I'm not anti-Bioware just not pro-Bioware anymore. I will now research each of their new games thoroughly before purchase instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Disregarding that, I'm not anti-Bioware just not pro-Bioware anymore. I will now research each of their new games thoroughly before purchase instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt.
#222
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 09:11
In the future I will be super duper gunshy about buying anything from EA period. I will wait minimum two weeks after release and read player reviews before I make any purchase decisions. If they surprise me and make a good RPG again I'll buy it. However the days of assuming I can trust the bioware brand and preordering are over.
#223
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 09:11
I have no problem boycotting their games. I even made the decision not to purchase Mass Effect 3 despite loving the series because of other EA/Bioware issues. Someone bought it for me though, so here I am.
#224
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 09:14
I would think twice before buying the next bioware game, propably would buy it used AFTER i had read the reviews
#225
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 09:16
I still strongly believe Bioware is a company that can and wants to produce great story-driven games. So no, I can't say that I'd never buy one again but my desire to do so rests entirely on how well they learn their lesson from this.





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