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[TK514]

Auld Wulf wrote...

From ME1 I was expecting Gerrel to stab me in the back.

How could you have been expecting him to stab you in the back since ME1 when he isn't introduced until 2/3rds of the way through ME2?

Modifié par TK514, 21 avril 2013 - 05:15 .

[TheWerdna]

Yes, because dude almost got Shepard and Tali killed. And while my Shepard would let it slide if it was just him who was put at risk, no one puts his girl friend at risk and gets away with it.

[Dunabar]

TK514 wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

From ME1 I was expecting Gerrel to stab me in the back.

How could you have been expecting him to stab you in the back since ME1 when he isn't introduced until 2/3rds of the way through ME2?

It's Auld Wulf, what do you expect?

[Alien Number Six]

Even my Renegade punches him after suggesting that he open fire when the shields come down. YOU DON'T FIRE ON THE SHIP UNTIL THE SAVIOR OF THE GALAXY IS SAFE!!!!!!

[Hazegurl]

I did. I punched him every single time and never regret it. He deserved a lot more than one punch.

[Demon Velsper]

That punch is so pointless. You punch him, then Renegade tells Joker "I'm playing nice for now." when asked if we're fine with them shooting at a ship while you're still on it.

Yeah, the punch is justified but you're certainly not playing nice about it if you're punching people afterwards.

[justafan]

I do and I don't depending on the Shepard. However, as others have mentioned, had Gerrel attempted to flee Rannoch instead of destroy the dreadnought, either the dreadnought or the Reaper backup would have come back online and destroyed the Quarian species at the Relay.

It is like the Omega DLC decision, do you kill all those innocent civilians so that two important people can live? You have the benefit of knowing it's a game and that ME usually gives a 3rd option. Gerrel knows that you are Shepard, and usually can find the 3rd option. I would have preffered a little more warning, but I can't blame him for putting the safety of 17 million above the safety of 3.  I just happen to have a few Shepards who take it more personally than others.

Modifié par justafan, 21 avril 2013 - 09:14 .

[Rhayak]

The first time no because i was pissed, but what he told me as the Renegade prompt flashed made enough sense.

[Nathan45628]

yes always, Han' Gerral is a reckless idiot, i'm certain blowing up dreadnoughts with Shepard aboard is bad for the war effort....

[DirtySHISN0]

Original choice?

Didn't meet the backstory requirements for peace on my original file.

Didn't punch him, didn't save him from himself.

[Ledgend1221]

S.A.K wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Of course.
He destroyed the most powerful ship in the galaxy.

Lol. The most powerful ship in the galaxy would be Harbinger. You should punch yourself for destroying that one.








jk. I know what you mean.

Wait wait wait. The Geth flaship is 30% bigger than an average dreadnought. But the destiny ascension is 4 times larger than an average dreadnought.

Damn I missed that one...

You mean the most useless ship in the galaxy that got taken out by a few geth cruisers?

[Argolas]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

You mean the most useless ship in the galaxy that got taken out by a few geth cruisers?

Dreadnoughts are pretty helpless in close-range combat without any support.

[Ledgend1221]

Argolas wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

You mean the most useless ship in the galaxy that got taken out by a few geth cruisers?

Dreadnoughts are pretty helpless in close-range combat without any support.

You're right.
What the hell were the turians doing?

Well not that it would help much anyways, it doesnt appear to have a main gun.
Not one to justify it's material cost at least.

[Star fury]

Punched Gerrel on all my playthroughs(1). Even my paragon Shepard's patience has it's limits and Han Gerrel went too far. One of the most satisfying moments in the trilogy.

[KENNY4753]

As much as I like Han'Gerrel I always punch him. He put not only my life in danger but Tali's too....

[BLAHBLUE2001]

Yes even my paragons punch that reckless bosh'tet. Fire on a ship while I'm aboard after I disabled it for you already??? No... Just no

[Exile Isan]

Demon Velsper wrote...

That punch is so pointless. You punch him, then Renegade tells Joker "I'm playing nice for now." when asked if we're fine with them shooting at a ship while you're still on it.

Yeah, the punch is justified but you're certainly not playing nice about it if you're punching people afterwards.

If you think it sounds stupid after punching him then don't use that dialog option. The paragon option has Shepard saying "We are not." Which is more in line with the punch. Why blindly choose renegade (or paragon for that matter) options because they're renegade or paragon, instead of what flows better?

Modifié par Exile Isan, 21 avril 2013 - 03:48 .

[Ykulnu]

I packed his **** as a Paragon and had no regrets.

[theillusiveone]

Yep, I always punch him. He's such an idiot, he could have easily killed us.

[Jon The Wizard]

No, but I will say that he totally deserved it.

[MisterJB]

The guy whose ships I needed? Yeah...no.

[Han Shot First]

DeinonSlayer wrote...


Cheap sentiment aside, retreat is a foolish and short-sighted move. That dreadnought was a lost cause the instant the Geth decided to hand the keys over to the Reapers. Better to destroy it now while you can than let it come back online and start tearing into your only allies in the system once more.

The issue isn't that Han Gerrell ordered his ships to fire on the dreadnought. Its that he didn't give Shepard, Tali, and whomever else was tagging along, a reasonable amount of time to try and get off the ship before ordering his ships to fire. And he very nearly killed them. It was a betrayal of the unwritten code of military conduct, that you don't leave your own behind. The mission of course takes priority over the men and there might have been a point where Gerrel would have had to order his ships to fire on the dreadnought before Shepard and company could evactuate, but Gerrel didn't even give them a chance or a warning.

When combined with the fact that Han Gerrel is a poor strategist whose blunder was the cause for Shepard having to board the dreadnought in the first place, he earned that punch.

Phatose wrote...

Yeah, I decked him.

It's not a matter of whether or not it was the appropriate strategy.

It was a matter of him not bothering to mention that he intended to blow the ship up immediately before I went over there.

Well said.

That is the other issue with Han Gerrel's order to fire. If the dreadnought raid was a suicide mission where the Quarian fleet was going to fire as soon as Shepard disabled the upgrades, that should have been discussed beforehand. Gerrel should have informed Shepard of his intentions before the raid was underway.

You never keep your subordinates in the dark. Never.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 21 avril 2013 - 05:21 .

[remydat]

Demon Velsper wrote...

Yeah, the punch is justified but you're certainly not playing nice about it if you're punching people afterwards.

Considering as a Spectre you can put a bullet in him, you are playing nice.

justafan wrote...

I do and I don't depending on the Shepard. However, as others have mentioned, had Gerrel attempted to flee Rannoch instead of destroy the dreadnought, either the dreadnought or the Reaper backup would have come back online and destroyed the Quarian species at the Relay.

It is like the Omega DLC decision, do you kill all those innocent civilians so that two important people can live? You have the benefit of knowing it's a game and that ME usually gives a 3rd option. Gerrel knows that you are Shepard, and usually can find the 3rd option. I would have preffered a little more warning, but I can't blame him for putting the safety of 17 million above the safety of 3.  I just happen to have a few Shepards who take it more personally than others.

The Reaper signal on Rannoch is short range.  That is precisely why they need the signal on the Dreadnaught because the signal on the Dreadnaught is long range.  Further he could have destroyed it after you left the ship or told you that he had no intention of not destroying the ship.

Finally, Shep is a respresentative of the Council and the Alliance.  Garrus is a representative of the Turians.  He did not risk the safety of 3 to save 17 million.  He risked the trillions of lives depending on Shep to save them from the Reaper threat when the 17 million was in no immediate danger.  He risked a conflict with the Humans and Turians if he had killed Shep and Garrus and they caught wind of the fact Gherel blew up allies who just saved his people's a** when he could have waited and when if you are paragon Shep, the mission plan was for him to retreat.  You don't play with the lives of prominent military personnel of your allies in the manner that he did.

[Spartas Husky]

tickle267 wrote...

Yes I did.



Mmm... satisfying.

lol diplomacy??? weird definition for diplomacy.