I played through once so far and although I'm not much of a Chantry supporter my first playthrough was. I decided to hep Berkel set up his Chantry in Orzimmar and figured what was the worst that could happen. Well, he died, as I'm sure many of you know. I was wondering if he fares better if you don't help him, or if you put Bhelen on the throne.
I was talking with a friend and she mentioned how when she plays characters of her own morality she doesn't like to interfere with the local customs too much because she respects them.
What did everyone chose for their response to him, does he get mention of a better outcome in any other endings? etc.
Brother Berkel?
Débuté par
kahare
, nov. 30 2009 03:16
#1
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 03:16
#2
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 03:27
I supported him and the Chantry. When he was killed by the heathens, the Chantry considered an Exalted March on the dwarves. As my character was a devout Andraistan, that didn't bother her at all.
#3
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 03:30
I put Bhelen on the throne and helped Brother Berkel ( I was playing a human noble, so I felt it fit with her character), and he was still assassinated during his arrest during the protest. I thought that Bhelen's forward thinking would help Berkel gain a foothold, but I guess Orzamar just isn't ready for the Chantry inside it's halls.
#4
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 03:31
He always dies if you choose to help him. Personally, I don't think that the xenophobia of the Dwarves is very healthy, anyways, so I keep setting him up to die if I want to support Bhelen. If the character is conservative, I think I wouldn't help Berkel.
#5
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 03:45
I told him straight, the Maker does not exist and no I would not help him. So his outpost never gets built, and he died an old an happy man*.
* Possibly, I don't know, that was a guess, it's not made clear at the end if you don't do his quest what happens to him.
* Possibly, I don't know, that was a guess, it's not made clear at the end if you don't do his quest what happens to him.
#6
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 03:48
Like many other peaceful, nonviolent, well-meaning people, he ends badly.
#7
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 03:55
This is one of the things I liked about DA:O (along with pretty much everything else), you try to do the right thing (or not in my case) and the unforeseen consequences are he gets killed. It's not all black and white.
#8
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 04:14
After thinking about this, I think he would have made a more powerful, moving story if he had been put in Dust Town and spoken more about the need to open the Chantry there to do 'Maker's work', charitable type things (while still being a True Believer.)
#9
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 04:21
I think it's too favorable to the chantry and the martydom of Brother Berkel. I think it would have been better to mention that the chantry in Orzammar gave the outside world a justification for meddling in the city's affairs (Berkel doesn't have to be responsable for this though. This can be a mirror to how the French and Brits interferred in the Ottoman Empire's affairs, using the native Christians in the Mid east as excuse). It would have given the traditionalist argument more validity.





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