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[SimonM72]

I really wish Bioware would contact either of those deviantart artists to ask for their permission to make that officially Tali.
As evident fans of the series you know they'd say yes and they have already had the blessing from the community.

Modifié par SimonM72, 20 mars 2012 - 01:58 .

[AkiKishi]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

I liked the design they chose for her, but I agree the photoshop was incredibly lazy. They could have used a picture of Ash Sroka against a metal background (as though the picture was taken in an airlock after a decontamination cycle). Like I said, I liked the design, but they should have gone with an original photo. At least get the fingers right.

Why does fan art always portray Tali with purple skin? That has never made sense to me...

Visor colour.

The picture in the OP does not look like the Quarian description from the codex.

Engineer Shepard was quite happy with what Tali looked like. Bob does not really care either way.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 20 mars 2012 - 02:01 .

[android654]

Punk4Real wrote...

The only worthy rendition of tali, 
 

I like this one too. I personally would've made her a lot paler and her eyes larger, almost insect like.

[DeinonSlayer]

Punk4Real wrote...

The only worthy rendition of tali, 
 
*snip*

Sorry... no. That looks like it's ready to peel right off.

[daftPirate]

Noelemahc wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Why does fan art always portray Tali with purple skin? That has never made sense to me...

It's a simple leap of logic. The predominant colour in her design is purple. Asari have lots of different skin tones, why should Quarians be different? The most popular assumption is that the dominant colour of a Quarian's clothing is to reflect the skin tone, so you'd expect Kal'Reegar to be red-skinned, for example.

This is actually a pretty sensible leap of logic considering that a Quarian's suit is, for most intents and purposes, their skin to the rest of the world. They may make it beautiful, but they probably want it true to themselves as well.

[suprhomre]

I actually like the one we got from BioWare. But, they introduce it really bad. They should have done it in the Rannoch scene.

[Punk4Real]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Punk4Real wrote...

The only worthy rendition of tali, 
 
 

Sorry... no. That looks like it's ready to peel right off.

Are you kidding me? She is an alien and doesn't necessarily need a human-like scalp or hair.
In any case, you can't deny this fan art is miles better than that piece of sh!t stock photo we got.

Modifié par Punk4Real, 20 mars 2012 - 02:04 .

[Noelemahc]

BobSmith101 wrote...

The picture in the OP does not look like the Quarian description from the codex.

IMHO(tep), they should've gone with the designs they had in the ME1 concept art we see in the artbooks. Any one of those designs could work well in 3d, because I think that both the ME2 and ME3 unmasking scenes would've been approximately 17 times better if we could not only HEAR Tali worry about Shep not seeing her facial expressions, but see her actually make them. I'd assume she'd overdo what we assume is normal facial expression range for asari and humans because of the isolation that spending most of your life faceless would bring, just as deaf and part-deaf people sometimes over-mime the articulation of words when they speak.

BioWare demonstrated a good in-depth research of the roles of self-mutilation and self-modification in post-traumatic self-expression with Jack's character development, why didn't Tali get the same treatment? Much more of an impact.

On an unrelated note, her voice makes me think of Valeria Golino's face (mainly because the voice acting reminds me of her, particularly in Escape From L.A.), so that's who I always imagined her looking like. =)

[DeinonSlayer]

daftPirate wrote...

Noelemahc wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Why does fan art always portray Tali with purple skin? That has never made sense to me...

It's a simple leap of logic. The predominant colour in her design is purple. Asari have lots of different skin tones, why should Quarians be different? The most popular assumption is that the dominant colour of a Quarian's clothing is to reflect the skin tone, so you'd expect Kal'Reegar to be red-skinned, for example.

This is actually a pretty sensible leap of logic considering that a Quarian's suit is, for most intents and purposes, their skin to the rest of the world. They may make it beautiful, but they probably want it true to themselves as well.

Um... no, it isn't. It really isn't. My biology doesn't reflect on the color of my favorite shirt, or vice versa.

[android654]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

daftPirate wrote...

Noelemahc wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Why does fan art always portray Tali with purple skin? That has never made sense to me...

It's a simple leap of logic. The predominant colour in her design is purple. Asari have lots of different skin tones, why should Quarians be different? The most popular assumption is that the dominant colour of a Quarian's clothing is to reflect the skin tone, so you'd expect Kal'Reegar to be red-skinned, for example.

This is actually a pretty sensible leap of logic considering that a Quarian's suit is, for most intents and purposes, their skin to the rest of the world. They may make it beautiful, but they probably want it true to themselves as well.

Um... no, it isn't. It really isn't. My biology doesn't reflect on the color of my favorite shirt, or vice versa.

If you wore a green body suit and mask your entire life in front of the whole world, guess what color people would associate with you.

[xiaoassassin]

Wasn't there a codex or something that said Quarians were more similar to humans in appearance? I have no real problems with Tali's face. If you hadn't known that she was created from a stock image, how many people would still feel cheapened? Knowing how lazy BW was on Tali makes me sad, but the first time I saw Tali's picture I just thought it was just BW playing it safe. I liked the face and everything.

The only problem I have is that they didn't model in Tali's actual face.

[gabewpashere]

Punk4Real wrote...

The only worthy rendition of tali, 
 

That works in my oppinion. 

[Gyspy Jive]

Punk4Real wrote...

The only worthy rendition of tali, 
 

This.

[DeinonSlayer]

Punk4Real wrote...

Are you kidding me? She is an alien and doesn't necessarily need a human-like scalp or hair.
In any case, you can't deny this fan art is miles better than that piece of sh!t stock photo we got.

I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that, biologically, it's a completely impractical design. Detrimental, even. The "starfish" portion looks as though it would be prone to very serious injury. I can appreciate the effort that went into it, and it's certainly unique, but ultimately flawed. That's just my opinion.

[AkiKishi]

Noelemahc wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

The picture in the OP does not look like the Quarian description from the codex.

IMHO(tep), they should've gone with the designs they had in the ME1 concept art we see in the artbooks. Any one of those designs could work well in 3d, because I think that both the ME2 and ME3 unmasking scenes would've been approximately 17 times better if we could not only HEAR Tali worry about Shep not seeing her facial expressions, but see her actually make them. I'd assume she'd overdo what we assume is normal facial expression range for asari and humans because of the isolation that spending most of your life faceless would bring, just as deaf and part-deaf people sometimes over-mime the articulation of words when they speak.

BioWare demonstrated a good in-depth research of the roles of self-mutilation and self-modification in post-traumatic self-expression with Jack's character development, why didn't Tali get the same treatment? Much more of an impact.

On an unrelated note, her voice makes me think of Valeria Golino's face (mainly because the voice acting reminds me of her, particularly in Escape From L.A.), so that's who I always imagined her looking like. =)

All I really cared about is that her face matched the "jackpot" grin of Shepard during her romance in ME2. The ME3 version does appear to do that so I'm content.

Jack is the only human character I found in the least bit interesting.

[Bacusan]

we need a "human nose" (yo can sometimes see thru the glass ot the mask, Human lips are also present and some flashy eyes in order to keep with what we can see thru.
Moreover the skin color should be very pale because tali's skin is never in contact with the sun or other sources to tan the skin. I believe a sort of purple could be ok. but it should still be very light.

[daftPirate]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

daftPirate wrote...

Noelemahc wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Why does fan art always portray Tali with purple skin? That has never made sense to me...

It's a simple leap of logic. The predominant colour in her design is purple. Asari have lots of different skin tones, why should Quarians be different? The most popular assumption is that the dominant colour of a Quarian's clothing is to reflect the skin tone, so you'd expect Kal'Reegar to be red-skinned, for example.

This is actually a pretty sensible leap of logic considering that a Quarian's suit is, for most intents and purposes, their skin to the rest of the world. They may make it beautiful, but they probably want it true to themselves as well.

Um... no, it isn't. It really isn't. My biology doesn't reflect on the color of my favorite shirt, or vice versa.

No, your biology doesn't influence what you wear, but Quarian biology certainly does. They have no choice but to live in suits. For a Quarian that wants its friends and aquantainces to get to know them, who they are, they can't show each other their faces (though why don't any Quarians have plain, transparent visors, eh?). The suit is as good as it gets. Me? I think the galaxy already has enough species with members of every hue(and way beyond enough species with only two fingers). But considering the Quarians' situation, I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. Odds are we'll never know either way, anyway.

edit: only thing I'm curious about is the reference to Quarians not being as "squishy" or whatever as other races.

Modifié par daftPirate, 20 mars 2012 - 02:14 .

[DeinonSlayer]

android654 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

daftPirate wrote...

This is actually a pretty sensible leap of logic considering that a Quarian's suit is, for most intents and purposes, their skin to the rest of the world. They may make it beautiful, but they probably want it true to themselves as well.

Um... no, it isn't. It really isn't. My biology doesn't reflect on the color of my favorite shirt, or vice versa.

If you wore a green body suit and mask your entire life in front of the whole world, guess what color people would associate with you.

Yes, people would associate the color with me. But if my skin actually turned green under there, I would be seeking serious medical help.

[Punk4Real]

DeinonSlayer wrote...
I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that, biologically, it's a completely impractical design. Detrimental, even. The "starfish" portion looks as though it would be prone to very serious injury. I can appreciate the effort that went into it, and it's certainly unique, but ultimately flawed. That's just my opinion.

Lol you've got to be trolling pal. So isn't it impractical that protheans and batarians have four eyes? Why on earth would you need four eyes?
Point is, our biological concerns need not be implied over to alien species. They're are ALIEN. Impractical for us may have actual PRACTICAL use for them. Who knows? Who cares really?

[Avolie]

Punk4Real wrote...

Uhh....nice attempt, but that is not possible.
Javik mentions quarians were the most beautiful among all alien species, back when they didn't wear helmets.
So uh, beautiful and that ghoul-ish face doesn't really go together.

In fact he did say "considered attractive" and not "most beautiful", quite the difference.
Attractive for Prothean standards ...

[android654]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

android654 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

daftPirate wrote...

This is actually a pretty sensible leap of logic considering that a Quarian's suit is, for most intents and purposes, their skin to the rest of the world. They may make it beautiful, but they probably want it true to themselves as well.

Um... no, it isn't. It really isn't. My biology doesn't reflect on the color of my favorite shirt, or vice versa.

If you wore a green body suit and mask your entire life in front of the whole world, guess what color people would associate with you.

Yes, people would associate the color with me. But if my skin actually turned green under there, I would be seeking serious medical help.

Years under artifical dyes with little time removed from it? Yeah you'd eventually turn green. Also it's stated many times that thier metabolism and anatomy is almost the inverse of ours.

[Noelemahc]

Yes, people would associate the color with me. But if my skin actually turned green under there, I would be seeking serious medical help.

Not unless you're an alien. We simply do not know enough about Quarian biology. Asari come in lots of colours, remember? So do Krogan. So do humans, ackshwally, we just have a narrower variety.

BTW, anyone else notice that we never got to see huskified salarians, drell and quarians?

All I really cared about is that her face matched the "jackpot" grin of Shepard during her romance in ME2. The ME3 version does appear to do that so I'm content.

Jack is the only human character I found in the least bit interesting.

Same here, except that I still feel cheated that we only get a photo. I can even forgive the stock art, even though it IS a cheap move for a game with a budget this big.

[midnightcrow]

bazzag wrote...

midnightcrow wrote...

 In terms of her personality, cute yet fierce, her accent, and even the shape of her eyes, she always kind of reminded me of Björk, so I just made a quick comp of tali with Björk's face:

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I like this.


Not that i have anything against the photo. I thought i wasn't getting what i craved after rannoch so this was a nice suprise for me

Thanks. Yeah, I agree, the photo they used is nice enough, but they should have taken the time to properly model Tali's face and reveal it at Rannoch when she takes the mask off. That would have felt less throwaway and much more poignant.

[DeinonSlayer]

Punk4Real wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...
I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that, biologically, it's a completely impractical design. Detrimental, even. The "starfish" portion looks as though it would be prone to very serious injury. I can appreciate the effort that went into it, and it's certainly unique, but ultimately flawed. That's just my opinion.

Lol you've got to be trolling pal. So isn't it impractical that protheans and batarians have four eyes? Why on earth would you need four eyes?
Point is, our biological concerns need not be implied over to alien species. They're are ALIEN. Impractical for us may have actual PRACTICAL use for them. Who knows? Who cares really?

Who's trolling? It's an evolutionary fact. A good percentage of the life on Earth has more than two eyes. Some can see ranges of color well beyond our perception.

[SimonM72]

So dextro-amino then..... Is that like if I were to try some cat-milk and it would taste funny?.