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[sackyhack]

Does anybody else's language recognition centers slow down to a crawl when they see should/would/could "of" instead of "have"?

Modifié par sackyhack, 20 mars 2012 - 02:21 .

[Siven80]

While the ME3 image of Tali was lazy....

It is still a good image and i like it.

[Punk4Real]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Punk4Real wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...
I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that, biologically, it's a completely impractical design. Detrimental, even. The "starfish" portion looks as though it would be prone to very serious injury. I can appreciate the effort that went into it, and it's certainly unique, but ultimately flawed. That's just my opinion.

Lol you've got to be trolling pal. So isn't it impractical that protheans and batarians have four eyes? Why on earth would you need four eyes?
Point is, our biological concerns need not be implied over to alien species. They're are ALIEN. Impractical for us may have actual PRACTICAL use for them. Who knows? Who cares really?

Who's trolling? It's an evolutionary fact. A good percentage of the life on Earth has more than two eyes. Some can see ranges of color well beyond our perception.

Exactly. So your complaint that the starfish shape of her head is impractical is NOT justifiable because you don't know if it actually serves her a purpose or not. 

Modifié par Punk4Real, 20 mars 2012 - 02:22 .

[Noelemahc]

SimonM72 wrote...

So dextro-amino then..... Is that like if I were to try some cat-milk and it would taste funny?.

More like, taste funny and then kill you.

Does anybody else's language recognition centers slow down to a crawl when they see should/would/could "of" instead of "have"?

"Slow down"? "Want to tear  the speaker's head off", more like, but this is the Internet and they have not yet invented devices for doing that over the Internet.

On a more serious note, the thing that worries me is that the in-game photo has no indication of the glowing eyes we see through the facemask =)

Modifié par Noelemahc, 20 mars 2012 - 02:23 .

[XTR3M3]

shouldn't this go in the spoilers allowed section instead of no spoilers?

[Skeloton]

Punk4Real wrote...

The only worthy rendition of tali, 
 

I agree.

[Punk4Real]

sackyhack wrote...

Does anybody else's language recognition centers slow down to a crawl when they see should/would/could "of" instead of "have"?

English isn't even my first language....and that ^ still pisses me off.

Modifié par Punk4Real, 20 mars 2012 - 02:26 .

[Noelemahc]

XTR3M3 wrote...

shouldn't this go in the spoilers allowed section instead of no spoilers?

So long as the ACTUAL in-game picture isn't posted here, I think there's no spoilers here.

[daftPirate]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Punk4Real wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...
I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that, biologically, it's a completely impractical design. Detrimental, even. The "starfish" portion looks as though it would be prone to very serious injury. I can appreciate the effort that went into it, and it's certainly unique, but ultimately flawed. That's just my opinion.

Lol you've got to be trolling pal. So isn't it impractical that protheans and batarians have four eyes? Why on earth would you need four eyes?
Point is, our biological concerns need not be implied over to alien species. They're are ALIEN. Impractical for us may have actual PRACTICAL use for them. Who knows? Who cares really?

Who's trolling? It's an evolutionary fact. A good percentage of the life on Earth has more than two eyes. Some can see ranges of color well beyond our perception.

Yep. Don't know about Batarians, but Javik mentions the Prothean's evolution as predators, and what predator wouldn't benefit from an extra set of eyes to watch prey? It's not just aesthetic, it can indeed be practical. But at that, the same thing would go for the Turian and Asari physiology. No less flawed than this design, and I don't think any more prone to injury. I suppose in a fight it would be nasty if someone grabbed that and pulled, but I'd imagine that kind of thing would end up as a societal taboo. Not to mention, again, Asari and Turian, same weakness.

[android654]

SimonM72 wrote...

So dextro-amino then..... Is that like if I were to try some cat-milk and it would taste funny?.

More like eating a bowl of arsenic.

[DeinonSlayer]

I had written up a description of how I thought they would look before the picture was released. I take the conditions on Rannoch into consideration when trying to picture what Quarians look like. I think it's safe to say that their skin tone would not all be one color - the Geth have stripes on the backs of their legs. Rannoch's sun is older than our own, which would mean it is putting out more radiation. I could see the Quarians having skin mostly similar to a human's, but with "geth plates" in different areas which provide extra radiation protection. They're not Turians, but somewhere in-between. I don't think they would have hair. They're frequently portrayed with purple skin, but in spite of what people are insisting, that simply doesn't make sense in an evolutionary way. It'd probably be closer to the camoflage colors you'd expect in an arid, desert-like environment.

[daftPirate]

Noelemahc wrote...

On a more serious note, the thing that worries me is that the in-game photo has no indication of the glowing eyes we see through the facemask =)

That's the thing. Here eyes might not even glow. That could simply be an effect of the visor. I'd like to know why they need these translucent visors anyway.

[FatalX7.0]

People seem to forget the Wiki/Codexes, which state that Quarians look similar to humans.


Quarians are generally shorter and of slighter build than humans.
Quarians have an endoskeleton, lips, teeth, and two eyes with eyelids
and tear ducts; they also have three thick fingers on both hands which
include a thumb, an index finger, and a long fingers, similar to the
middle fingers for humans, as well as three toes on each foot. Quarian
facial structure and hair actually makes them the most similar to humans
in physical appearance. Their lower legs are bowed backwards
significantly, compared to asari
or humans. Aside from hands and legs, their general body shape and
sexual dimorphism is similar to humans. Their ears or ear analogues
differ in a noticeable fashion from those of humans, with references
made to "what [passes] for the quarian version of an ear".

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 20 mars 2012 - 02:31 .

[DeinonSlayer]

daftPirate wrote...

Noelemahc wrote...

On a more serious note, the thing that worries me is that the in-game photo has no indication of the glowing eyes we see through the facemask =)

That's the thing. Here eyes might not even glow. That could simply be an effect of the visor. I'd like to know why they need these translucent visors anyway.

As I understand it, they wore visors like that because that's the closest you get to having privacy on the Flotilla.

[FatalX7.0]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

daftPirate wrote...

Noelemahc wrote...

On a more serious note, the thing that worries me is that the in-game photo has no indication of the glowing eyes we see through the facemask =)

That's the thing. Here eyes might not even glow. That could simply be an effect of the visor. I'd like to know why they need these translucent visors anyway.

As I understand it, they wore visors like that because that's the closest you get to having privacy on the Flotilla.

Yes.

Mystery also = cool.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 20 mars 2012 - 02:34 .

[daftPirate]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

daftPirate wrote...

Noelemahc wrote...

On a more serious note, the thing that worries me is that the in-game photo has no indication of the glowing eyes we see through the facemask =)

That's the thing. Here eyes might not even glow. That could simply be an effect of the visor. I'd like to know why they need these translucent visors anyway.

As I understand it, they wore visors like that because that's the closest you get to having privacy on the Flotilla.

Wow. That is one strange quirk. Kinda makes sense, in a weird "I was born, raised on and will die on a starship" kind of way.

[Nelatherion]

Overule wrote...

Yeah this is a little too "Predator"-y for a potential LI. More than a couple people woulda done a spit take if they realized they'd been locking lips with a set of pincers in ME2's romance scene.

Hey! Screw you! I find Predator sexy! 

[DeinonSlayer]

daftPirate wrote...

Yep. Don't know about Batarians, but Javik mentions the Prothean's evolution as predators, and what predator wouldn't benefit from an extra set of eyes to watch prey? It's not just aesthetic, it can indeed be practical. But at that, the same thing would go for the Turian and Asari physiology. No less flawed than this design, and I don't think any more prone to injury. I suppose in a fight it would be nasty if someone grabbed that and pulled, but I'd imagine that kind of thing would end up as a societal taboo. Not to mention, again, Asari and Turian, same weakness.

That's what I'm thinking. Turian plates are, essentially, made of metal, and the Asari fringe is more compact (where are you supposed to get a decent grip?) 

The Quarian fringe in that fan art, though? Not so much. It just looks far too fragile - too delicate, especially in light of Grunt's evaluation that Quarians are tougher than humans. And as the other poster noted, the Codex invalidates most of our speculation anyway...

I'm not opposed to the design they chose, but that photoshop was just lazy.

[cyborg2501]

I still like this version... I feel like it fits her voice better, sweet and vulnerable, but strong and competent at the same time. Though I like the rendering of her body in the OP, I think it's really accurate. Combine the two and you got a winner.

[BobbyDylan]

cyborg2501 wrote...

I still like this version... I feel like it fits her voice better, sweet and vulnerable, but strong and competent at the same time. Though I like the rendering of her body in the OP, I think it's really accurate. Combine the two and you got a winner.

Yeah, I like it too. Seems shy.

[FatalX7.0]

cyborg2501 wrote...

I still like this version... I feel like it fits her voice better, sweet and vulnerable, but strong and competent at the same time. Though I like the rendering of her body in the OP, I think it's really accurate. Combine the two and you got a winner.

This one is so pretty.

[DoctorEss]

Punk4Real wrote...

The only worthy rendition of tali, 
 

I was just about to link this one.  If there was a way to go into the game files, and swap the crappy 2 minute 'shoop job that's in there, and put this one in it's place, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

As far as I'm concerned, THIS is Tali.  Period.  Don't care what's on the picture Bioware put in, THIS IS TALI, and I will continue imagining her as such.  Probably too late now, but if I were Bioware, I'd go pay that guy some money for his design, and quietly patch it in to change the picture.  It fits the art style, it's alien without being TOO alien, and she manages to be "beautiful" (for an alien).  It's very well done.

Modifié par DoctorEss, 20 mars 2012 - 02:51 .

[daftPirate]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

daftPirate wrote...

Yep. Don't know about Batarians, but Javik mentions the Prothean's evolution as predators, and what predator wouldn't benefit from an extra set of eyes to watch prey? It's not just aesthetic, it can indeed be practical. But at that, the same thing would go for the Turian and Asari physiology. No less flawed than this design, and I don't think any more prone to injury. I suppose in a fight it would be nasty if someone grabbed that and pulled, but I'd imagine that kind of thing would end up as a societal taboo. Not to mention, again, Asari and Turian, same weakness.

That's what I'm thinking. Turian plates are, essentially, made of metal, and the Asari fringe is more compact (where are you supposed to get a decent grip?) 

The Quarian fringe in that fan art, though? Not so much. It just looks far too fragile - too delicate, especially in light of Grunt's evaluation that Quarians are tougher than humans. And as the other poster noted, the Codex invalidates most of our speculation anyway...

I'm not opposed to the design they chose, but that photoshop was just lazy.

Aye, of the three, the Quarian fan-art certainly looks the flimsiest. I think if they reduced it significantly, into more of a ridged forhead(like a built in diadem kinda thing) and kept the dreads, it'd be spot on...for me, anyway. I think Humans, hairless Batarians and Krogan win in the head covering department over horned salarians, plated turians and tentacled asari. Comes down to it, Mass Effect is the one fictional universe where, given the choice to be any race I would pick human. Can't say that about any other fiction-verse I know of, but its not a bad thing.

[FatalX7.0]

DoctorEss wrote...

Punk4Real wrote...

The only worthy rendition of tali, 
 

I was just about to link this one.  If there was a way to go into the game files, and swap the crappy 2 minute 'shoop job that's in there, and put this one in it's place, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

As far as I'm concerned, THIS is Tali.  Period.  Don't care what's on the picture Bioware put in, THIS IS TALI, and I will continue imagining her as such.  Probably too late now, but if I were Bioware, I'd go pay that guy some money for his design, and quietly patch it in to change the picture.  It fits the art style, it's alien without being TOO alien, and she manages to be "beautiful" (for an alien).  It's very well done.

I'm sure you could easily mod the photo into something else.

I bet someone will eventually, if no one has already. That's the glory of technology.

Just check out these texture modifications. http://deadendthrills.com/

Mass Effect 3 is there now.

[harrier25699]

SimonM72 wrote...

So dextro-amino then..... Is that like if I were to try some cat-milk and it would taste funny?.

Not from what I understand, in fact dextro-amino foods may even taste on the sweet side.  Your body would just not do anything (or much) with it other than flush it out as waste.  It is highly unlikely it would be toxic unless the food had a pH value beyond our tolerance.

Modifié par harrier25699, 20 mars 2012 - 03:01 .