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[Hokochu]

We probably turned the poor guy into an alcoholic by now.

[Sylvanfeather]

I asked something similar in another thread, but you phrased it much more eloquently.

If this is the ending we were meant to have, why not provide a FAQ-type response giving us a bit of insight to the vision. However, I understand they are likely still trying to determine which is the best approach in dealing with the situation (i.e to change their plan or stick with it).

[HKR148]

Because way too many of their own employees have made the situation worse by bad PR moves.

[Claym0re]

I can respect the feeling "I like my job and I intend to keep it."

[Sparse]

Grasich wrote...
 I'd say either because they don't know what they're going to do yet, they're hoping it all blows over, or EA has them in a choke-hold. If the first is the case, then I understand. This is probably a hell of a shock for them. If the second is the case, then they're digging their own grave. However, if this is because of EA, then I truly do feel sorry for Bioware, though it was their fault for joining up with the Evil Empire.

I think people over-estimate the control EA has on their subsidiaries. The quality of games released by EA is wildly inconsistent so I suspect that developers within the EA brand still have a lot of freedom.

To be honest I would expect EA to be more likely to look solely at the financial column and sense the opportunity for maximising profit through an ending DLC than Bioware are.

[Jaraldur]

Sadly, we will probably be in the "dark" until April at PAX East T_T

[pablosplinter]

They are talking to us .....through Destructoid and IGN

[0Sion0]

Because some people would crucify him if he as so much peeked around the corner. Sad but true - at this point the fans are angry and will lash out at almost anything and everything he has to say that isn't; " Yes, we'll change the endings, what do you think of this...".

While a lot of people(and kudos/repect for that) would by now be open to some dialogue - there are still the kinds of people that would, perhaps understandably so, let emotion get the best of them. Which would destroy any kind of reasonable, open dialogue to be had.

So best we're getting... which is next to nothing until we get any kind of confirmation they are actively using it to craft a better ending... is a post about how they want our feedback and how they're ' listening'.

But that's my take on things.

- Joshua

Modifié par 0Sion0, 20 mars 2012 - 02:37 .

[darkiddd]

Eain wrote...

DISCLAIMER:
Before mods or community managers find reason to close this thread for being demanding, I am NOT requesting that Mac Walters talks with us. All I am doing is allowing for Lots Of Speculation From Everyone in his stead.

^ lol

[FKA_Servo]

As ever, I'm going to go with #2, necessitated by #1.

It's not over though. The end wasn't the end, and they will finish this thing. I think that it will be sincere and in keeping with the spirit of the series.

But then, I'm an optimist.

[jb1983]

Hammer6767 wrote...

They said they are waiting for more people to complete the game to gather more opinions. The few thousand that post on forums are a sampling of some of the more dedicated fans, but they want to see what casual fans have to say, as well.

Why? Casual fans won't get on a message board if they hate the ending. They'll just return the game or forget about it (and not download DLC). 

At this point, the money Bioware makes will be from dedicated fans and their purchasing of DLC. Let's be honest - if they released a DLC for ME1 tomorrow that ties into a new DLC for ME2, a lot of dedicated fans would buy those and bust out ME1 and ME2. A casual fan? Not so much. (not saying this would happen, just using an example of the difference between fans). 

So at this point, Bioware needs to pay more attention to dedicated fans because that's where their money base is, especially for DLC. 

[Takamori The Templar]

So can anyone fire Mac Walters and get Drew to write the damn story?

Modifié par Takamori The Templar, 20 mars 2012 - 02:37 .

[billyzero]

I understand they are waiting for more people to finish the game but while they wait, Rome is burning. If you look at Meta-critic's or Amazon's users reviews, they are devastating. Nobody who happens upon those sties will buy this game. Each day, more and larger news outlets are running this story which basically says: "Mass Effect fans HATE ME 3's endings." The damage being done is enormous.
This has been seriously mishandled PR-wise. Companies (and governments) don't understand how fast information moves these days, how quickly public opinion forms and solidifies. Using the standard PR playbook doesn't work.

[Grasich]

Sparse wrote...

Grasich wrote...
 I'd say either because they don't know what they're going to do yet, they're hoping it all blows over, or EA has them in a choke-hold. If the first is the case, then I understand. This is probably a hell of a shock for them. If the second is the case, then they're digging their own grave. However, if this is because of EA, then I truly do feel sorry for Bioware, though it was their fault for joining up with the Evil Empire.

I think people over-estimate the control EA has on their subsidiaries. The quality of games released by EA is wildly inconsistent so I suspect that developers within the EA brand still have a lot of freedom.

To be honest I would expect EA to be more likely to look solely at the financial column and sense the opportunity for maximising profit through an ending DLC than Bioware are.

I certainly hope you're right. I do worry a bit that they'll just end up abandoning it.
It could be that Bioware is just in the process of negotiating funding with EA for an ending DLC. We can hope anyway.

Hold the line.

[Eain]

HKR148 wrote...

Because way too many of their own employees have made the situation worse by bad PR moves.

But this is what irks me.

If Bioware are artists, then there is no such thing as PR. The whole idea that responses have to be minmaxed to produce the optimal results speaks of such a soulless apathy that I find it hard to believe that anyone who spent eight years of his life crafting an original sci-fi universe could even be like that. You don't write rich characters and emotionally engaging narratives only to become an apathetic zombie the moment it comes to the reception of your product. I can't reconcile those two notions.

[0Sion0]

Takamori The Templar wrote...

So can anyone fire Mac Walters and get Drew to write the damn story?

Remember, the majority of the game was good - damn good. It's the last 15 minutes that gave us the collective heartattack. No need to fire anyone, seeing that did manage to give us that. In my opinion. Just putting that out there.

[XiaShou]

billyzero wrote...

I understand they are waiting for more people to finish the game but while they wait, Rome is burning. If you look at Meta-critic's or Amazon's users reviews, they are devastating. Nobody who happens upon those sties will buy this game. Each day, more and larger news outlets are running this story which basically says: "Mass Effect fans HATE ME 3's endings." The damage being done is enormous.
This has been seriously mishandled PR-wise. Companies (and governments) don't understand how fast information moves these days, how quickly public opinion forms and solidifies. Using the standard PR playbook doesn't work.

so god damn true

[FyreSyder]

Eain wrote...

Avissel wrote...

If you were in his shoes, would you?]

Absolutely. I intend to publish my first sci-fi novel in a series this year (very far into it, will be looking for an agent soon), and if it takes off and gathers a fanbase then I will owe it to them if they turn out not to like what I'm doing with it.

What's the title of your novel, so I know to look out for it?

[wryterra]

Eain wrote...

Why is Mac Walters not talking with us?

Legal obligation not to. 

[Brahlis]

dfstone wrote...

If I were him I'd be embarassed.

[Heathen Pride]

Probably busy doing something like this:

[Captain Arty]

When I heard the line about "wanting to hear more feedback from fans", I thought, this is pretty clear PR code for, if we make enough money without changing the ending, we won't change it.

There will probably be a couple non-ending DLC available first. If the sales of those DLC tank enough, they may realistically consider a DLC ending.

[Grasich]

Heathen Pride wrote...

Probably busy doing something like this:<picture>

That made me laugh. Good one, sir.

[count_4]

FyreSyder wrote...

Eain wrote...

Avissel wrote...

If you were in his shoes, would you?]

Absolutely. I intend to publish my first sci-fi novel in a series this year (very far into it, will be looking for an agent soon), and if it takes off and gathers a fanbase then I will owe it to them if they turn out not to like what I'm doing with it.

What's the title of your novel, so I know to look out for it?

+1

[Parrk]

My understanding is that he is ignoring the fans in order to prevent writers from ignoring the fans.