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[FlyinElk212]

Optimystic_X wrote...

Mresa wrote...
Yeah as if Kaidan died in Virmire and Garrus wasn't romanced in ME2. Straight female Shep gets absolutely nothing.

Here's a weird and crazy idea - don't kill Kaidan if you're a straight female!

Gosh, I had no idea killing off prospective love interests might leave me with no love interests! Stop the presses!

Whoawhoawhoa. Why WOULDN'T we believe this?

The trend in Mass Effect's storyline for Straight Female romances has only gone up in the past two games (ME1=Kaidan, then ME2= Kaidan/Garrus/Thane/Jacob). Why would we suddenly believe that the romantic options would be less in Mass Effect 3? Particularly when Straight Male Shep gets a new romance (Allers) on top of the 5 he already has in Mass Effect 3?

The Straight Female Shepard players got no one new in Mass Effect 3, in fact, they LOST two romances.

[obtuse4ngle]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Bioware made a troll face when they said they would try to appeal to the female more in ME3. What they meant was that they would try to appeal to lesbians and straight horny males more.

Bioware didn't try to appeal to lesbians at all. They tried to appeal to straight horny males who want girl-on-girl action.

[AnsinJung]

So the game pretty much reflects the population of people playing it, while still giving a little extra love to minorities. This is not surprising in the least. It might be a little sad given that there's probably more male interest in the lesbian relationships than female interest, but that just proves that they're trying to hit their target audience, and they probably are.

[Phaedros]

It's the same in TOR males get WAY more flirts than females.

Must be a Bioware thing..

[mnomaha]

obtuse4ngle wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Bioware made a troll face when they said they would try to appeal to the female more in ME3. What they meant was that they would try to appeal to lesbians and straight horny males more.

Bioware didn't try to appeal to lesbians at all. They tried to appeal to straight horny males who want girl-on-girl action.

Couldn't agree more.

[KelaSaar]

Phaedros wrote...

It's the same in TOR males get WAY more flirts than females.

Must be a Bioware thing..

So true.  More females play video games then people think, it'd be nice to see that reflected.

[BatmanPWNS]

obtuse4ngle wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Bioware made a troll face when they said they would try to appeal to the female more in ME3. What they meant was that they would try to appeal to lesbians and straight horny males more.

Bioware didn't try to appeal to lesbians at all. They tried to appeal to straight horny males who want girl-on-girl action.

Well I only said Lesbian just in case some actual lesbian would get angry at my post but, yeah, it was really just for horny males.

[flamingplatypus]

I know in one of the announcements, a Bioware rep mentioned that they had a very hard time picking which LI's to leave out for ME3.
I'm calling bull**** though, they're just pandering to the straight male fanbase. Enkindlers forbid the straight male players have to give up one of their many LI so that it's fair!

[lyssalu]

gj bioware

[bazzag]

I always thought vega was gonna be an LI for fem shep. Still should be, as not everyone wants to date an alien, and if you killed kaiden, or just don't like him, you get jacob, whos cool in ME2 but a douchebag in ME3.

I'm also inclined to think diana is not a romance option, but a fling, as she says that its just between them, and no one is to find out, as shes got a reputation to consider.

[Hadeedak]

Thane I wouldn't mind near as much if it came with an achievement (trite, but symbolic!) and someone, including your Shepard, noting that someone Shepard cared about died. Hell, that should happen when he's your friend, too.

I like Garrus, Kaidan and Thane. And I kind of like Traynor (never really 'got' Liara as a love interest, she just seemed too young in 1). So I suppose I'm fine, but *GRABBY HANDS* More please. MORE CHOICES. MORE THANE.

[LadyofRivendell]

Huh, never really thought about that. But it's certainly for marketing. As was mentioned, the target gaming demographic is straight males, typically around the ages of 15-30 (not being prejudiced, just observational). So, naturally, straight males would have the most romance options. Probably followed by gay females, since a lot of younger guys seem to find that arousing...
As a straight female, I'm perfectly happy with Kaidan (and his romance arc is one of the best written, IMO) but any females who don't like him and didn't romance Garrus really are outta luck. Again, Bioware has to sell the game to the target demographic, but by now the rest of us (females and gay guys) are used to it. Heck, I bet most of us, like myself, are floored any time we're given a game that actually takes us into account.

[lyssalu]

Captain Arty wrote...

OP: I'm not sure I understand what your thesis statement is here.

the statement is that all of the people who arent straight men/don't play straight men are getting significantly less content for a game that's being sold to them for the same price

[PsyrenY]

 

Squeegee83 wrote...

i'm not about to go through two games because bioware messed up. i don't like kaiden anyways, don't see why i have to be forced into the romance with him. just saying.

You don't have to, you can romance Kaidan just fine in ME3 only.

obtuse4ngle wrote...

Bioware didn't try to appeal to lesbians at all. They tried to appeal to straight horny males who want girl-on-girl action.

With Liara (and Asari in general) I'd agree, but not with Traynor.

[LordHelfort]

Just be thankful that ultimately, everyone dies, so its not like the LI's matter that much

In all due serious why is this surprising? They're not going to put in as much time for each orientation if 90 percent of their fanbase is straight male, it would seem like an odd allocation of resources and writing time to...appeal to a small minority of fans/people?

To respond to lyssalu ,the statement is that your portion of the fanbase is much smaller than the straight male one, and thus it is the larger (and ergo more profitable) section that must be pandered to the heaviest.

My 2 Cents.

[Zulufoxtrot]

Optimystic_X wrote...

 

Squeegee83 wrote...

i'm not about to go through two games because bioware messed up. i don't like kaiden anyways, don't see why i have to be forced into the romance with him. just saying.

You don't have to, you can romance Kaidan just fine in ME3 only.

obtuse4ngle wrote...

Bioware didn't try to appeal to lesbians at all. They tried to appeal to straight horny males who want girl-on-girl action.

With Liara (and Asari in general) I'd agree, but not with Traynor.

How so? With Traynor it was literally two conversations, and sex scene. At least Cortez had a somewhat interesting mission thing to do. 

/Agress with OP

[disc0nnect7]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

Mresa wrote...
Yeah as if Kaidan died in Virmire and Garrus wasn't romanced in ME2. Straight female Shep gets absolutely nothing.

Here's a weird and crazy idea - don't kill Kaidan if you're a straight female!

Gosh, I had no idea killing off prospective love interests might leave me with no love interests! Stop the presses!

Whoawhoawhoa. Why WOULDN'T we believe this?

The trend in Mass Effect's storyline for Straight Female romances has only gone up in the past two games (ME1=Kaidan, then ME2= Kaidan/Garrus/Thane/Jacob). Why would we suddenly believe that the romantic options would be less in Mass Effect 3? Particularly when Straight Male Shep gets a new romance (Allers) on top of the 5 he already has in Mass Effect 3?

The Straight Female Shepard players got no one new in Mass Effect 3, in fact, they LOST two romances.

Um, ever consider some female players might want to have Ashley alive as well? Just because we sacrifice ONE male LI doesn't meant we should be stuck alone in the end.

It ridiculous how straight female players have two options in the final game-one if Ashley is alive. Some girls aren't into Kaiden. Not every player is going to like a potential LI-that's why we need options. Why BW decided to take away two of our male options is beyond me. If they wanted Thane to die so much maybe they could have waited a little longer into the game, so you know he could actually count as a relationship and romance.

[Hadeedak]

Hey hey hey. You can't romance Garrus in the final game. He needs to be an import.

[Pr3ying M4nt15 360]

A lot of females were campaiging supporting gay romances when you knew Bioware didn't really want to put development time into them. Seems like Bioware sacrificed female romances to include those gay romances. Kinda serves you right really.

[Bellendaine]

Well, at least gay female can get Liara in ME1 ... gay males get ZERO. Apparently Kaidan was a possibility, but it was cut out ... something I can never forgive them for, even though I am grateful I had a chance in ME3.

[CheeseEnchilada]

LordHelfort wrote...

Just be thankful that ultimately, everyone dies, so its not like the LI's matter that much

In all due serious why is this surprising? They're not going to put in as much time for each orientation if 90 percent of their fanbase is straight male, it would seem like an odd allocation of resources and writing time to...appeal to a small minority of fans/people?

To respond to lyssalu ,the statement is that your portion of the fanbase is much smaller than the straight male one, and thus it is the larger (and ergo more profitable) section that must be pandered to the heaviest.

My 2 Cents.

I'd argue that, in terms of straight females at least, it's surprising because of the amount of content given in the second game. Male Shepards had Jack, Miranda, Tali, and the ability to stay loyal to Liara and Ashley. Straight females had Jacob, Thane, and Garrus, and had the ability to stay loyal to Kaidan. Come ME3, two of those relationships are invalidated--Jacob and Thane. Why take away two of those options, leaving a new Shepard with Kaidan and Garrus as the only options? Did the demographics change that much over the course of the two games?

[braxy29]

TomY90 wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

Thane did tell you he was dieing. It was your choice to romance him or not.

and plus as Liara once said in ME1 i believe it is not about the amount of time you spend with your loved one its about the you have spent togther in the time you had.

yes, and most thane fans were well aware he would probably die in me3.  part of what irritates us so is that it was almost like the romance had never happened, and they had really only been friends.  similarly crappy romance with jacob, from what i understand.

basically, for femsheps who had not romanced garrus or who killed off kaiden in me1 or the interactive comic, there were no other strait romance options.

[shadey]

well straight males make up the largest player base

so we get the most options.

jacob was the least liked character so you can thank yourselves for him not having any role in me3, and it was clear from the moment you met thane in me2 he was dying, his death was expected in me3, maybe not in that way but the same thing none the less.