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[spernus]

DogFaceMan_ac wrote...

I can't help but feel people have clung to my criticism of the graphics and looked no further (perhaps because i listed it first). I could (and do) disregard what i consider poor graphics for a games price (so long as they don't hinder gameplay), if i find the game entertaining. My criticism of the graphics is prompted more by having yet to find anything to justify the price of this game yet.
I can think of many more entertaing things and games i could have bought for $65. And before anyone suggests i'm just skipping content, i'm the sort of player that explores every nook and cranny for any and all quests, treasure and npcs.
I talk to every npc, i offer gifts to my, so far boring to outright annoying party members, and yet have failed to find much inducement to keep playing (other then the fact i bought it).
I love Biowares other games and this is why DAO comes as such a big dissapointment. Clearly i am in the minority, but for once (well truthfully the 2nd time as i had no interest in Jade Empire either) i have absolutely no interest in a bioware game after having played it.

Why is it so bad if you do not like Dragon age?

Perhaps you perceive Bioware to be far better than they really are? I know that I do not consider Bioware to be the king of rpgs,since it's a weak genre nowadays.Being the best when the competition is rather meh doesn't mean all that much(jrpgs are low quality as well these days).

[MadMaligor]

spernus wrote...
Why is it so bad if you do not like Dragon age?

Perhaps you perceive Bioware to be far better than they really are? I know that I do not consider Bioware to be the king of rpgs,since it's a weak genre nowadays.Being the best when the competition is rather meh doesn't mean all that much(jrpgs are low quality as well these days).

Actually the quality of the "R" in RPG is quite well done in DA:O.  Much more so than in a number of games, past and present.  Especially considering many developers confuse character class roles with role play.

Just because recent competition is "Meh", doesn't mean that this game isn't or will not be worthy of "Best RPG" (once all the DLC and expansions are complete).  Its off to a great start...and being on top of the pile pretty much makes you King.

Now only if they would tone down the whole $5 for an hour of entertainment thing.

[VheodTh]

I have to add one thing: Dragon age origins has dated graphics and thats not an opinion, thats fact (the game is great and all but that doesnt have anything to do with facts). And I personally prefer BALDURS GATE 2 or any other infinity engine graphics over almost every 3d game, because infinity engine games had realistic looking 2d backgrounds that were true ART compared to the cartoon graphics of DEO... cheers!

[dannythefool]

DogFaceMan_ac wrote...
-The graphics (on pc) are horrible. i have them at max and they look like nwn 2 and sometimes even worse.

Are you playing this on a console? I still play NWN2, and as someone who has played a round of NWN2 right after finishing a DAO playthrough, let me tell you that the graphics of NWN2 are nothing like DAO, they are much worse despite the insane system requirements of NWN2 (for its time). If you play on PC too, then you're probably just experiencing nostalgia and should go back to NWN2 and see what it really looks like.

-The characters i've encountered so far are boring. Totally uninteresting in every way. I realize this is a matter of personal preference, but considering Biowares previous games, it is one of the more disappointing aspects of this game.

So you are playing the Dalish Elf origin and haven't finished it yet?

-Balance. Many fights are easy to only slightly challenging, then you come across a group of enemies in the same area which just annihilate your party.

This is unfortunately true, however these fights will become much easier once you get the hang of tactics or micro-managing your companions.

Modifié par dannythefool, 30 novembre 2009 - 02:44 .

[AS_Dodger]

I'm actually grateful that graphics aren't bleeding edge, or I wouldn't have been able to play this awesome game!



/hasoldishpc

[JackDresden]

DogFaceMan_ac wrote...

Like the title says. I feel this game was a major disappointment, and here's why:

-The graphics (on pc) are horrible. i have them at max and they look like nwn 2 and sometimes even worse. That wouldn't be so bad if the animations didn't look like they were taken from nwn 1. Everything from the way people's lips move to how characters run looks old and pathetic. After how good Mass Effect looked (yes i realize they are slightly different styles of game which different engines but still), i expected at least as good a looking game.

-The characters i've encountered so far are boring. Totally uninteresting in every way. I realize this is a matter of personal preference, but considering Biowares previous games, it is one of the more disappointing aspects of this game.

-Balance. Many fights are easy to only slightly challenging, then you come across a group of enemies in the same area which just annihilate your party.

-I bought the deluxe edition on steam because of the bonus items. Now i find out two of those items (Final Reason and Bergans Honor) i don't actually get as is implied on the website, but rather i have to buy them from the merchants. Seriously? I paid extra for some lame dlc and two extra items in a merchents inventory.

I have bought every D&D based game from Bioware and Obsidian, not to mention KotoR 1 and 2, and was considering buying ME2 after enjoying playing the first one on my friends computer a little. But i feel incredibly ripped off after buying DAO. Spiritual successor to BG my ass. I'm not buying anymore Bioware games until i've had a chance to play them first and confirm they aren't rubbish.

On Graphics I don't agree, it's not state of the art but better than NWN2 IMO and good enough, character textures are reasonable but could be better.

I disagree totally on your review of the characters, they are mostly well done.

All the silly promo items in my opinion where rather stupid so I couldn't careless.

[Roxlimn]

Saying that DAO has graphics at all comparable with NWN2 clearly marks the OP as uninformed. That's tantamount to saying that New Super Mario Brothers Wii essentially has the same graphics as the DS version of the game.



Add that to getting wiped at all on Normal completely invalidates its opinion as anything serious. Clearly, it is joking.

[Valmy]

Sorry you didn't like it. Better luck with your next game.

[Dauphin2]

the OP has to be some kind of troll. The graphics in this game are the best I have *EVER* seen in any game, ever. I challenge anyone to come up with a game, past or present, that has better graphics. I really want to see it if such a thing exists. Which I doubt does.

[Unstepped]

Dauphin2 wrote...

the OP has to be some kind of troll. The graphics in this game are the best I have *EVER* seen in any game, ever. I challenge anyone to come up with a game, past or present, that has better graphics. I really want to see it if such a thing exists. Which I doubt does.

I really hope this is some form of rather bad sarcasm else... it's quite retarded of you to think that.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Unstepped wrote...

Dauphin2 wrote...

the OP has to be some kind of troll. The graphics in this game are the best I have *EVER* seen in any game, ever. I challenge anyone to come up with a game, past or present, that has better graphics. I really want to see it if such a thing exists. Which I doubt does.

I really hope this is some form of rather bad sarcasm else... it's quite retarded of you to think that.

It's a credible opinion.  DAO has better graphics than any other game I've ever played, that's for sure.

[Bored Games]

I don't understand what's that wrong with graphics anyway. They actually have a nice saturated gritty dark feel. Okay some landscape detail in the distance looks a bit Everquest 1-ish, but beyond that everything is great, including the animations. Name an RRG with a largish world that betters them.

[Justin2k]

It may be too late but my advice to the OP is to give it time.



The graphics, while not important to me, I can understand people criticizing. I think personally they are good enough, but they do look slightly dated in parts.



As for the characters, you really need to immerse yourself in the story and so many of them come into their own in my opinion. I think its a lovely game but I too had doubts on first play. Now I'm addicted to it.

[Sylixe]

Kyrgsh wrote...

Well, if you actually think WoW is a better RPG than Dragon Age, I'd suggest you play that game instead. No amount of conversation here will convince you that Dragon Age is a worthy game if you prefer the kind of "RPG" that WoW is.

I had to lol at this when you put RPG and WoW in the same sentence.  It's like saying honest and politicain in the same breath.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Justin2k wrote...

The graphics, while not important to me, I can understand people criticizing. I think personally they are good enough, but they do look slightly dated in parts.

I don't understand this at all.  Compared to what do the graphics look dated?  Is there another expansive RPG that has graphics this good?

[Ninjaphrog]

Ok let me put it this way...

1) Get the f over it if someone doesn't agree with you in your opinion that DAO is awesome...I as well agree in that this game should not be a full price game, and I'm shocked if this was a high budget game...coulda fooled me.

2) How is stating your opinion trolling? How can someone comming in to stating their opinion possibly do it just to ****** you off? If you want a troll, look at me...I admit I'm a troll, cause it's flippin hilarious when little men blow a massive one over something so utterly pointless...Trolls win. Just to clarify...forums are meant for discussions, AND debates...it's not the A s skisser central..people with a negative opinion should be able to come here and post it without getting attacked by an angry mob of geeky bioware a s s kissers...

3) People always say that WoW has nothing in common with DAO, but that's a coward denying the fact. This game is in many ways the same as WoW except for the lack of online player capabilities.

4) Many believe that this game as actually so good that it should be named game of the year...first of all...the Bioware community does not cover even 10%(Not fact, just guessing)of the worlds gaming community...and trust me if you take the game OUT of the solid Bioware lovers community, people would most likely agree on that there are atleast 100 other AND better games out there more qualified to be GOTY, but of course no one cares what happens out there right?

Conclusion is...that you need to lay your own, and Biowares pride on the shelf for alittle bit, tape your laughably annoying mouth shut, and take the fact that some people don't agree with you, like a man(Unless you're a child, in which case 1) you shouldnt even be here, and 2)You need to grow up faster). Some people might start flaming me again saying that I'm just as bad if not worse then they are...fact is though that I am not really serious about it...I just think it's funny to pull people with an anger management issue's strings to make him angry...it's what feeds me ya know? =P

Anyway enjoy whatever game you happen to enjoy and....can't believe I say this...let's try and have some fun on the forums instead of turning it into a kindergarden.

Modifié par Ninjaphrog, 30 novembre 2009 - 11:44 .

[Ninjaphrog]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

The graphics, while not important to me, I can understand people criticizing. I think personally they are good enough, but they do look slightly dated in parts.

I don't understand this at all.  Compared to what do the graphics look dated?  Is there another expansive RPG that has graphics this good?

Well the graphics in oblivion are pretty good...though the animations are just as bad as in DAO.

[Volourn]

DA is vastly superior to to BG2 in almost every concieveable way. All I gots to say to end this argument is DA OGRE > BG OGRE



'Nough said.

[Ninjaphrog]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Unstepped wrote...

Dauphin2 wrote...

the OP has to be some kind of troll. The graphics in this game are the best I have *EVER* seen in any game, ever. I challenge anyone to come up with a game, past or present, that has better graphics. I really want to see it if such a thing exists. Which I doubt does.

I really hope this is some form of rather bad sarcasm else... it's quite retarded of you to think that.

It's a credible opinion.  DAO has better graphics than any other game I've ever played, that's for sure.

Look at the Elder Scrolls: Oblivion...THAT is awesome graphics...while the animations are quite abit worse, the overall visuals in Oblivion far outshines that of DAO.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Ninjaphrog wrote...

Well the graphics in oblivion are pretty good.

Oblivion's character models had far less realistic and detailed faces, and the floors tended to have a lower polygon count.

Ruins should not have flat, level floors.  DAO's ruins don't.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Volourn wrote...

DA is vastly superior to to BG2 in almost every concieveable way. All I gots to say to end this argument is DA OGRE > BG OGRE

'Nough said.

Not quite.  I would argue that DAO fails to live up to BG's standard in exactly the same way that BG2 failed to live up to BG's standard.

[Ninjaphrog]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Ninjaphrog wrote...

Well the graphics in oblivion are pretty good.

Oblivion's character models had far less realistic and detailed faces, and the floors tended to have a lower polygon count.

Ruins should not have flat, level floors.  DAO's ruins don't.

Well look at the textures and details in armor or clothes for example?

[Ninjaphrog]

Besides I think my wall of text a few posts above this one states my opinion quite well...I'm done with this topic unless some hot headed guy wants to beg to differ?

[Volourn]

"BG2 failed to live up to BG's standard."

The fact you prefer BG1 to BG2 says everything I need to know why you like BG2 more than DA.

Modifié par Volourn, 30 novembre 2009 - 11:53 .