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New Indoctrination Video. Very well done.


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mgoss

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I didn't see this posted here but it really enforces the idea. IMO, this is the only way the ending could be salvageable. 
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bump, because it's important to watch.

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Stormraught

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+1 win :o

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Tuthsok

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Cool!

But the thing I don't get with the Indoctrination theory (and choosing destroy option) is do all the Reapers just go "OMG!! We couldn't indoctrinate Shepard!!" and explode?

If all that last "battle" was within Shepard's mind what actually takes down the reapers? The assembled fleet? How would it be any different then than if Shepard didn't beat Indoctrination?

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Everything was in Shepard's mind.

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PrinceHamlet82

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God I hope this is what was intended..........though I have my doubts, but it lines up so darn well.......... Though if this was intended and BW had released what amounts to an unfinished game, I would also be disappointed. This was supposed to the grand finale, the final hoorah as it were, and yet we don't get that till DLC or another game, rather disappointing to say the least, if this is true. If its not well, then we still dont get that with the ending so a bummer all around.

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I don't even care if they intended this (which the weird normandy crashland scene makes me seriously doubt), but they should use it anyway; its pretty much the only way to salvage that ending.

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LadyAly

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absolutely awesome - and so logical. But it is true ??

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titusrsoooooo1337

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This should be friggin' stickied. I'm getting straight up sick of all the childish comments from all the kiddies who didn't understand the ending. Going to the FTC? CMON...

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Thiamath

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Very well done indeed, thank's to the PO....!!!!

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LadyAly

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*bump for awesomness*

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It was thought provoking....hmmmm.....I hope they thought this out, it's better than red/blue/green god kid.

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jlb524

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Tuthsok wrote...

Cool!

But the thing I don't get with the Indoctrination theory (and choosing destroy option) is do all the Reapers just go "OMG!! We couldn't indoctrinate Shepard!!" and explode?

If all that last "battle" was within Shepard's mind what actually takes down the reapers? The assembled fleet? How would it be any different then than if Shepard didn't beat Indoctrination?


I think the idea is that, some of it is real and Shepard does push the magical Reaper killing button.  But, some of the things that make no sense are the product of an indoctrinated mind.

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Thiamath

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The destroy option could implie that you still have to activate the crucible, you still are on earth, there is still a battle to win, you have won the battle in your mind, but the big batlle it's on....

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After watching the video the only 4 things supporting this theory are the following:

1. The trees
2. The citadel inner design
3. Hackett radio calling
4. Shepard being alive only if you go for the "renegade" option

The rest can be easily explained the other way aorund. Personally I like the indoctrination theory (even thou if it turns out to be true I was indoctrinated :P)

Modifié par Claym0re, 20 mars 2012 - 05:13 .


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Jonathon Kuhlman

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Wow this is amazing! Bravo to the people that figured this out, and to Bioware. I can't wait to see what happens next.

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I'm back and done watching.
Really great edited and mind-blowing. I'll share it with everyone who hates the ending as much as I do. Thanks.

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The video still doesn't explain, if shepard does give into indoctrination, why we witness the reapers leaving earth, why we witness the mass relays exploding, why we witness Joker trying to escape the explosion, and why we witness the normandy crash land on some random planet.

It also leaves us with more questions than answers, and even less closure. If it was true, then it shows Bioware rushed the ending because the game should've continued after shepard breaks indoctrination. It doesn't however.

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Video was well done, but wasn't this posted earlier already?

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clarkusdarkus

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awsomely explained and damn right wrong if it isnt the case.

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Jonathon Kuhlman

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Vigil_N7 wrote...

The video still doesn't explain, if shepard does give into indoctrination, why we witness the reapers leaving earth, why we witness the mass relays exploding, why we witness Joker trying to escape the explosion, and why we witness the normandy crash land on some random planet.

It also leaves us with more questions than answers, and even less closure. If it was true, then it shows Bioware rushed the ending because the game should've continued after shepard breaks indoctrination. It doesn't however.


You either didn't watch all of the video, or you need to watch it again. It truly explains all and you should have little to no questions after watching the whole thing. Sheperd never actually went up to the citadel, all of that was the Reapers trying to Indoctrinate his mind. If you choose to destroy the Reapers then you beat their Indoctrination attempts, and Sheperd is still alive and himself down on Earth covored by some rubble in London after the Reaper blast. Joker escaping with your squad is just Sheperd having a nice dream to put his mind at ease because he believes they are safe.

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Claym0re

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After watching the video the only 4 things supporting this theory are the following:

1. The trees
2. The citadel inner design
3. Hackett radio calling
4. Shepard being alive only if you go for the "renegade" option

The rest can be easily explained the other way aorund. Personally I like the indoctrination theory (even thou if it turns out to be true I was indoctrinated :P)

Modifié par Claym0re, 20 mars 2012 - 05:58 .


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Very professional presentation. If they didn't plan this, I'd be fine with them claiming they did.

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Vigil_N7

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Jonathon Kuhlman wrote...

Vigil_N7 wrote...

The video still doesn't explain, if shepard does give into indoctrination, why we witness the reapers leaving earth, why we witness the mass relays exploding, why we witness Joker trying to escape the explosion, and why we witness the normandy crash land on some random planet.

It also leaves us with more questions than answers, and even less closure. If it was true, then it shows Bioware rushed the ending because the game should've continued after shepard breaks indoctrination. It doesn't however.


You either didn't watch all of the video, or you need to watch it again. It truly explains all and you should have little to no questions after watching the whole thing. Sheperd never actually went up to the citadel, all of that was the Reapers trying to Indoctrinate his mind. If you choose to destroy the Reapers then you beat their Indoctrination attempts, and Sheperd is still alive and himself down on Earth covored by some rubble in London after the Reaper blast. Joker escaping with your squad is just Sheperd having a nice dream to put his mind at ease because he believes they are safe.


I watched it all. I also watched the previous one he made as well. It still doesn't explain why the reapers leave earth if shepard submits to indoctrination, and why the mass relays are shown to explode. 

If shepard dreamt of the normandy escaping to put his mind at rest, why did he dream about the mass relays exploding? Why would he of dreamt of the catalyst/citadel exploding? 

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Olive Oomph

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This was interesting and very well done! I do hope, there is some truth to it!