I know it has been stated otherwise, but I really feel that DA3 should have Hawke as the main character. First, since there is no new DLC, expansion or otherwise for DA2, Hawke's character's story would go the same way as the Warden: compeltely unknown. And I want closure for Hawke, and his relationships. I feel s/h was set up to be one of the most important characters of Thedas, and I want to see that reflected in DA3. As a playable character.
Hawke as DA3 Protagonist
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Samuel_Valkyrie
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#2
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:43
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No. God no.
I can't even say anything else. No. Please no.
I can't even say anything else. No. Please no.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 07:15
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Gross. I'd much rather DA3 ignore DA2 entirely.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 07:24
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The whole point of DA2 was to show that Hawke wasn't that important.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 07:33
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HiroVoid wrote...
The whole point of DA2 was to show that Hawke wasn't that important.
Exactly. The entire unreliable narrator aspect of it proved that Hawkes own contribution to events was overblown, Cassandra's assumption that Hawke was an important player was wrong.
Just to add my own point, I really dislike the Hawke character just as a personal taste. S/he has all of the limitations of a forced character like Shepherd and none of Shepherd's redeeming strength of character or charm.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 07:43
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Cassandra learned that Hawke's contribution was misconstrued as an antagonistic catalyst for the events that followed, when he was in fact a 'hero.' You just pulled that 'unimportant' part out of your ass.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 07:47
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Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...
I know it has been stated otherwise, but I really feel that DA3 should have Hawke as the main character. First, since there is no new DLC, expansion or otherwise for DA2, Hawke's character's story would go the same way as the Warden: compeltely unknown. And I want closure for Hawke, and his relationships. I feel s/h was set up to be one of the most important characters of Thedas, and I want to see that reflected in DA3. As a playable character.
Not going to happen.
Though, would be the only way to do justice to the character now that the expansion was scrapped.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 08:07
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Nope. They already said that DA3 will have a new protagonist.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 09:06
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The less DA3 has to do with DA2 the better.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 09:11
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Hawke is not my character. He never is. He is just a customizable BioWare's character who randomly acts without my input, being kind and helpful to people I never met, happily change his emotion while I still sad about Bethany and the rest of family members, choices that don't matter, etc... I already try in vain to roleplay him for 6 times + 3 failed attempts, I'm not going to repeat the same experience in DA 3.Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...
I know it has been stated otherwise, but I really feel that DA3 should have Hawke as the main character. First, since there is no new DLC, expansion or otherwise for DA2, Hawke's character's story would go the same way as the Warden: compeltely unknown. And I want closure for Hawke, and his relationships. I feel s/h was set up to be one of the most important characters of Thedas, and I want to see that reflected in DA3. As a playable character.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 09:33
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While i would like to see where Hawke's story goes i would HATE if Hawke was the main character. God i wish we get a more customisable character this time around. Hawke was too much of a set character i never felt like i had any actual control over him. I was just guiding him from place to place and he would accidently get himself mixed up in messes cause hey why the heck not.
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 10:02
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Hawke was the worst thing to happen to the Dragon Age franchise. I for one hope to never see Hawke again.
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Posté 21 mars 2012 - 12:10
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Hawke was epic. 'He was the worst thing to ever happen to Dragon Age, waa'. Well that might be because it's between him and The Warden in a series that's only into its second game. People need to get a grip;.
But no, new protagonist. DA is the story of Thedas, not the story of one person and needs different characters to tell the story of Thedas.
But no, new protagonist. DA is the story of Thedas, not the story of one person and needs different characters to tell the story of Thedas.
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Posté 23 mars 2012 - 06:36
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ShadyKat wrote...
Hawke was the worst thing to happen to the Dragon Age franchise. I for one hope to never see Hawke again.
He was most spineless and confused MC that i have ever played in 25+ of RPG gaming(same applies for almost all of his brats errr..companions).Only regret was that DA II didn't have sort of Suicide Mission like ME2, so i can officially dispense all of them.
Some people maybe like that type of personality, but i don't , let's hope that we won't see someone like that in gaming again.
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Posté 23 mars 2012 - 07:01
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NO do not want to see the warden or Hawke. Bring on the new protagonist!
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Posté 23 mars 2012 - 07:23
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I don't need closure for Hawke. I can fill in the blanks in my head.
Besides, I'm looking forward to a new protagonist, new friends, new LI's, and new prespectives. Playing Hawke again wouldn't really provide those in a very satisfying manner.
Besides, I'm looking forward to a new protagonist, new friends, new LI's, and new prespectives. Playing Hawke again wouldn't really provide those in a very satisfying manner.
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Posté 23 mars 2012 - 07:32
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No, i do not want the warden or Hawke (and I love me Hawke). They do not have a fresh perspective and come with a lot of baggage from their adventures, together with friends, enemies and lovers and I don't know what else.
I look foreward to meeting new people.
I look foreward to meeting new people.
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Posté 23 mars 2012 - 07:32
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Although I really enjoyed DA2 and liked Hawke, I think his story is over. He may appear in DA3 for all we know, but I'd prefer the player character be someone new.
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Posté 23 mars 2012 - 07:34
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Hawke as the protag in DA 3? Thank you, but no.
Do that, and I'll donate my savings from not buying that game to Mr. Fargo.
Do that, and I'll donate my savings from not buying that game to Mr. Fargo.
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Posté 23 mars 2012 - 10:15
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All The Closure I Need is in the opening cut-scene is seeing Hawk fall off a cliff. DA2 wasn't totally bad but Hawk was one of the parts that brought it down, along with the companions. I Just can't connect with any of the Dragon Age Charecters, I think they should Start Over with a new MC and just have all the characters make cameos.
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Posté 23 mars 2012 - 10:18
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HiroVoid wrote...
The whole point of DA2 was to show that Hawke wasn't that important.
Hawke become a champion when he saved kirkwall from the Qunary one way or another and No i dont care if you gave isabela away to gain kirkwall favor, my point is liking it or NOT hawke saved a city and was named champion of said city by a crazy templar.
So yea even if Hawke couldn't stop the war he became a champion way before the **** hits the fan with the mages rebellions.
OP hawke nor the warden will be main chart on the next DA game, I too wanted to continue playing hawke but every new game comes with a new hero. Who know smaybe hawke shows up and gave us a quest for my new hero that quest has to be:
hawke: kill sebastian for a cool screenshot with me?
New hero: hmmm, I need the gold to buy a mana potion but.. he is as good as dead!.
;)Sebastian: maker nooo!
:lol:
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Posté 23 mars 2012 - 10:35
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No Hawke as protagonist.
He/she's actions in DA2 (I'm assuming) is what is going to lead to DA3 (mage/templar war) but as far as that goes his role has ended in relation to a new game.
But some I still wouldn't mind some DLC for DA2
He/she's actions in DA2 (I'm assuming) is what is going to lead to DA3 (mage/templar war) but as far as that goes his role has ended in relation to a new game.
But some I still wouldn't mind some DLC for DA2
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Posté 23 mars 2012 - 10:35
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I guess you could say that Hawke was very important in Kirkwall, but not that important Thedas-wide. If Hawke's actions had mattered in the way the mages/templars conflict unfolded and the state of things at the end of DA2, he would be. But they didn't, so he isn't.Huntress wrote...
HiroVoid wrote...
The whole point of DA2 was to show that Hawke wasn't that important.
Hawke become a champion when he saved kirkwall from the Qunary one way or another and No i dont care if you gave isabela away to gain kirkwall favor, my point is liking it or NOT hawke saved a city and was named champion of said city by a crazy templar.
So yea even if Hawke couldn't stop the war he became a champion way before the **** hits the fan with the mages rebellions.
That's not necessarily a bad thing, mind. One can be very interesting and likeable without being The Chosen One Who Saved The Entire Galaxy.
As for the OP: I have nothing against Hawke, but new protag. Fresh start is good.
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Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:00
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I know alot of people for some reason find The Warden or Hawke as undeniably charming. First, look at yourself: you made those decisions out of a number of choices. When you could, you made a decision close to your desires. That's not the protagonist you like, it's your own brain you like. Those characters are a composite of choices offered by Bioware for you to choose from.
You might like the situations Hawke was in. You might like the sort of power and what Hawke could do with that power. You might like friends Hawke made. You might have had fun with the lore. However, the style of writing didn't really change signifigantly between DAO and DA2. The writers avoid dialogue styles that could be poetic to avoid misunderstandings. The personalities of each companion character is easy to comprehend (even Loghain). The lore was not exceptionally different in its relation of mysterious information from game to game.
Hawke might as well have been the Warden and vice versa. While the Warden had the ugly prospect of a future devoid of hope, that never seemed the strongest element in the Warden's life -- suggesting at internal strength but also managing never to differentiate him from future characters. The names are different though. So we might as well ask Bioware to give us elements in DAO or DA2 that we want repeated: situations of power or similar challenges, some of the same NPC or physical traits or obvious social experiences of these characters that appeal to you, voice actors and actresses, humour that you particularly liked, etc.
Bioware intends to make characters easy to identify with, to even like playing; that's not their fault. These characters tend to be unique in some ways when they're not redundant to common characters found on television or in the movies. A certain website does a far better job at describing these characters than I could. The main reason I support Bioware games at all is because I support the intelligent structure of their Lore, those slips of paper and excerpts from fictive books we've seen since Baldur's Gate. Otherwise, I'd probably be off playing Total War games, which I can only fault for Creative Assembly's often failing tactial AI.
However, if you're in love with a mirror Bioware made for you, I have no intent on shattering it to pieces like Flemeth did to Morrigan (inexplicable considering how old Flemeth *might* be). I can tell you that it's a mirror and you probably already know that to some extent. As to Hawke reappearing, I'm afraid that's a lost cause. Try to enjoy their new protagonist and remember that it's mostly Bioware offering a set of choices that can only be used to describe what's already in your noggin.
You might like the situations Hawke was in. You might like the sort of power and what Hawke could do with that power. You might like friends Hawke made. You might have had fun with the lore. However, the style of writing didn't really change signifigantly between DAO and DA2. The writers avoid dialogue styles that could be poetic to avoid misunderstandings. The personalities of each companion character is easy to comprehend (even Loghain). The lore was not exceptionally different in its relation of mysterious information from game to game.
Hawke might as well have been the Warden and vice versa. While the Warden had the ugly prospect of a future devoid of hope, that never seemed the strongest element in the Warden's life -- suggesting at internal strength but also managing never to differentiate him from future characters. The names are different though. So we might as well ask Bioware to give us elements in DAO or DA2 that we want repeated: situations of power or similar challenges, some of the same NPC or physical traits or obvious social experiences of these characters that appeal to you, voice actors and actresses, humour that you particularly liked, etc.
Bioware intends to make characters easy to identify with, to even like playing; that's not their fault. These characters tend to be unique in some ways when they're not redundant to common characters found on television or in the movies. A certain website does a far better job at describing these characters than I could. The main reason I support Bioware games at all is because I support the intelligent structure of their Lore, those slips of paper and excerpts from fictive books we've seen since Baldur's Gate. Otherwise, I'd probably be off playing Total War games, which I can only fault for Creative Assembly's often failing tactial AI.
However, if you're in love with a mirror Bioware made for you, I have no intent on shattering it to pieces like Flemeth did to Morrigan (inexplicable considering how old Flemeth *might* be). I can tell you that it's a mirror and you probably already know that to some extent. As to Hawke reappearing, I'm afraid that's a lost cause. Try to enjoy their new protagonist and remember that it's mostly Bioware offering a set of choices that can only be used to describe what's already in your noggin.
