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Jaze55

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Just what the title says.

What's next? The game specifically states once you are indoctrinated you are permantly. There is no cure. You can't block it - I dont care about books, not everyone read the books the are not cannon to the video games, they are side stories.

OK so according to the video game you can't get rid of indoctrination. So what happens after Shep wakes up? Only think I can think of is Benezia and Saren. They were able to resist if only for a short time and that was for Saren to kill himself and for Benezia to give them some info on Saren. Note that Benezia right back at trying to kill SHep and crew after she gave the info.

So taking that into consideration, what does Shep do next? Save the day in 2 minutes or less and then shoot himself in the face before he is back under Reaper control?

It is also stated that when the Reapers leave after a cycle the people who were indoctrinated and no longer hear the signal from the reapers just stand around and starve to death. The reapers leave and the signal stops, but everyone is still a brain dead vegie.

So please let me know what to expect after the Indoc Theory because it looks pretty bleak to me.  

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Jaze55

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Bump - I really want to know. I am curious.

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I'm pretty sure that if you take the destroy ending and have a high enough ems that you will shake off the Indoctrination. If you chose synthesis or control then you lose the inner battle and accept the will of the Reapers.

Modifié par Panicomatic, 20 mars 2012 - 05:01 .


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Bioware gets a second chance.

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Panicomatic wrote...

I'm pretty sure that if you take the destroy ending and have a high enough ems that you will shake of the Indoctrination. If you chose synthesis or control then you lose the inner battle and accept the will of the Reapers.


No sorry the game says it's permanant. Unless you want to open another plot hole to fill in a plot hole.

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Well thats exactly why so many people support the theory - because that's what an upcoming DLC might be all about.

Who knows what will happen - Liara will be forced to kill you and do the right thing for the Galaxy.

Now that would be a plot twist.

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thats the thing everyone will chose the destroy option however i think there should be more of a twist maybe the synthesis choice grants shepard new abilities i dont know just a ideal

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Jaze55

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I am NOT bashing the theory, I just want it to make sense.

Make it make sense to me pls. Just the after effect, I read the 1 bazillion posts explaining how it can fit.

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v0rt3x22 wrote...

Well thats exactly why so many people support the theory - because that's what an upcoming DLC might be all about.

Who knows what will happen - Liara will be forced to kill you and do the right thing for the Galaxy.

Now that would be a plot twist.


So having Liara kill you is better then her being stuck on a nice jungle paradise then? If I was Liara I would get depressed and shoot myself in the face if I had to kill Shepard. 

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I think when the reapers are destroyed the indoctrinaton fails. How you destroy them from the point Shep's breathing in the rubble is a bit of a mystery though.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 20 mars 2012 - 05:05 .


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i like the squadmate haveing to stop u ideal as well could u imagine shepard being the final boss and u play as one of your squadmates however that may be to hard to accomplish thru dlc

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Serious ass kicking.




I figure Shep breaks out long enough to blow the Reapers sky high, thus destroying the source of Indoctrination and freeing the Reaper's slaves held by their signal (maybe even set TIM straight!),

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the point remains that someone has to open the citadel arms

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Shepherd only "wakes" up if you choose the destroy option and have, I think, over 4000 EMS

He breaks indoc because the reapers could not convence him to choose control or synthasis.
He fights it off.
Indoc is not always control, A big part of it is inflencing direction

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P47 ace wrote...

Shepherd only "wakes" up if you choose the destroy option and have, I think, over 4000 EMS

He breaks indoc because the reapers could not convence him to choose control or synthasis.
He fights it off.
Indoc is not always control, A big part of it is inflencing direction


So then because I chose control or synthesis my game is just over and don't get the additional content? I would be more pissed about that then anything else...

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Again it's an indoctrination attempt, stop changing words, shep is only indoctrinated if she picks synthesis or control

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Genera1Nemesis wrote...

P47 ace wrote...

Shepherd only "wakes" up if you choose the destroy option and have, I think, over 4000 EMS

He breaks indoc because the reapers could not convence him to choose control or synthasis.
He fights it off.
Indoc is not always control, A big part of it is inflencing direction


So then because I chose control or synthesis my game is just over and don't get the additional content? I would be more pissed about that then anything else...



thats why i say add some twist to the synthesis / control choices 

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The indoctrination theory was never intended in the first place. Even if it was correct, the reaper war is not over, Harbinger has not been dealt with, Shepard still has no idea what the catalyst/citadel actually does, TIM is still knocking about, and the status of your crew is also an unknown.

Essentially, we'd have less closure than we did with the actual endings if it turns out to be correct.

Edit: Not only that, it'd mean the control/synthesis endings would make no sense at all. I can understand that it would represent shepard submitting to indoctrination, but why would the reapers then fly away? Why do the mass relays explode? Why does the normandy crash land on some random planet? 

Surely the correct ending to controlling/synthesizing would be the reapers obliterating everything, since shepard is no longer resisting them. 

Modifié par Vigil_N7, 20 mars 2012 - 05:12 .


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They still sold you "an epic conclusion to the gripping sci-fi fantasy trilogy" WITHOUT AN ENDING.

I paid $80 for a conclusion that didn't come with any conclusion.

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Genera1Nemesis wrote...

P47 ace wrote...

Shepherd only "wakes" up if you choose the destroy option and have, I think, over 4000 EMS

He breaks indoc because the reapers could not convence him to choose control or synthasis.
He fights it off.
Indoc is not always control, A big part of it is inflencing direction


So then because I chose control or synthesis my game is just over and don't get the additional content? I would be more pissed about that then anything else...


OK he wakes up. But he still got hit by the laser and is in a pretty big mess. Soooo he wakes up and does what? Crawl to the beam and then we do exactly what we did already?

Like I said tell me what happens next. The citadel needs to be opened. Who does it? Shepard looks pretty beat up in that easter egg vid. And if its him then I guess we at least get to see maurader shields again since it will be the same scene of him staggering to the beam to open the citadel.

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I must say I kind of like the indoc theory ending. I still need closure as to what happens there. If Shep survives, are the Reapers gone? Or are they still winning?

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maybe with synthesis shep is controlled somewhat like the begining of the indoc process but it disrupts or weakens the reapers somehow

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N7L4D wrote...

Again it's an indoctrination attempt, stop changing words, shep is only indoctrinated if she picks synthesis or control


They don't attempt they just indoctrinate you. Show me proof that they ever attempted and failed to indoctrinate someone and I will agree with you no problem.

Oh but the books don't count. Don't forget that. Not everyone read the books so they are not cannon to the video games. 

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Headcanon.

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MassEffected555 wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

Again it's an indoctrination attempt, stop changing words, shep is only indoctrinated if she picks synthesis or control


They don't attempt they just indoctrinate you. Show me proof that they ever attempted and failed to indoctrinate someone and I will agree with you no problem.

Oh but the books don't count. Don't forget that. Not everyone read the books so they are not cannon to the video games. 


Just because you didn't read them doesn't mean they aren't canon. Your ignorance doesn't shape the law.