was wondering something.. is powerful retroactive? I.e. if you get it at lvl 15 with one char, and lvl 5 with another do you get the same health at lvl 15, vs if you took it at lvl 5?
i know in oblivion and stuff the skills and stats like this were NOT retroactive so wondering about it here.
powerful
Débuté par
kenshindono
, nov. 30 2009 05:04
#1
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 05:04
#2
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 05:37
bump. anyone? This is kinda an important question since the difference could be huge later on if its not retroactive
#3
Guest_MarineBorn_*
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 05:41
Guest_MarineBorn_*
no the xbox 360 manuel mentioned this and it sayed something like every lvl your health and mana/stamina goes up by like 5 not including consti are willpower pts
#4
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 05:50
so is that retroactive or not? i.e. if you get it at lvl 15 with one char, and lvl 5 with another do you get the same health at lvl 15, vs if you took it at lvl 5?
#5
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 05:52
Yes assuming you have the stats to use the item.
#6
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 05:55
Powerful reduces fatigue by 10% and adds 5 HP per level, which is retroactive and keeps growing with you. The fatigue reduction happens even if you wear no armor, and having negative fatigue does reduce stamina costs further.
Basically, it's a very powerful talent. It's easily one of the best ones in the entire Warrior tree.
Basically, it's a very powerful talent. It's easily one of the best ones in the entire Warrior tree.
#7
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 05:56
I just started a new warrior character with and without "powerful".
I think the character with powerful had 25 more health. So it could be a flat one off 25 health bonus. I am not sure. I have never built a warrior character.
I think the character with powerful had 25 more health. So it could be a flat one off 25 health bonus. I am not sure. I have never built a warrior character.
Modifié par SeanMurphy2, 30 novembre 2009 - 05:56 .
#8
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 05:57
Powerful being in 2-handed tree? Just wondering.
#9
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 06:00
where in the xbox manual does it say that btw? I keep hearing 2 things one is that it just adds 25hp and one that it adds 5hp per lvl.. not sure if its retroactive or not, sushi is saying it is? the missing manual mentions just 25 hp boost. Ive seen a lot of people mentino 5hps per lvl but havent seen any documentation mentioning that
and no powerful is the first warior talent
and no powerful is the first warior talent
Modifié par kenshindono, 30 novembre 2009 - 06:00 .
#10
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 06:02
It would be easy enough to test. Just take it at anything beyond lvl 1 and see if it adds +5 HP or +5x(current lvl) HP.
#11
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 06:09
Load up a save game and look at one of your warrior's hitpoints.
I looked at Alistair. 199 health, 14 constitution and Level 10.
Warrior Base health = 100
Warriors gain 6 HP each level (Alistair had 9 level ups) = 54
+4 constitution = 20
Total = 174
Which leaves 25 HP unaccounted for
I looked at Alistair. 199 health, 14 constitution and Level 10.
Warrior Base health = 100
Warriors gain 6 HP each level (Alistair had 9 level ups) = 54
+4 constitution = 20
Total = 174
Which leaves 25 HP unaccounted for
Modifié par SeanMurphy2, 30 novembre 2009 - 06:14 .
#12
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 06:10
hmm tested it that way and it doesn't really work for me, because its the dog going from lvl 5>6 i got 25 hps so that could either mean its 5Xlvl retroactivly or a flat rate of 25, or hell it could be a flat rate of 25 andf then 5 per lvl afterward o_O
#13
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 06:13
sean posted as i was.. hmm so it looks like it may just be a flat rate of 25 hps? what lvl did alistar take the skill? and was 10 his base constitution when he started?
#14
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 06:22
I looked at my old Ostager save before I met Alistair.
He had Powerful already. He was level 4, constitution 13, Health 158.
Base health = 100
6 warrior HP for 3 level ups = 18
+3 constitution = 15
Total = 133 health (25 unaccounted for)
He had Powerful already. He was level 4, constitution 13, Health 158.
Base health = 100
6 warrior HP for 3 level ups = 18
+3 constitution = 15
Total = 133 health (25 unaccounted for)
#15
Posté 30 novembre 2009 - 06:25
well.. hmm, tnx, i guess that pretty much settles it. its just a flat rate of +25 then i supose. Where were all these people getting 5X hps a lvll?
Modifié par kenshindono, 30 novembre 2009 - 06:25 .





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