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[Kanon777]

Fooxie wrote...

a bunch of overzealous and angry nerds

Well, tbh, that is the impression I'm getting as well.

[Faust1979]

Elk Cloner wrote...

Faust1979 wrote...

I have to say I agree with this article we don't go around crying and forcing movie studios to try and fix their movies when they make a bad one.

Movie studios don't advertise their movies as products shapeable by consumers. BioWare did.

But, you're mistaken even with movies. It happened before and forced studio, albeit not make new ending, but to fix outcome of the story.

what movie? you talking about the Heavens Gate fiasco? that wasn't really fan outcry that made the studio change it the movie was a bomb and many just forgot about it till they came out with a new version

[kbct]

Compare the Yahoo article to the BBC article and determine which one colors the story:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...nology-17444719

[Han Shot First]

Mirajin wrote...

The PLC wrote...

You are a vocal minority..

QFT

Makes me wonder....if ME3s ending 100% amazing and everything we hoped for, what would the 'vocal minority' be b*tching about instead?

....a vocal minority that is voicing a complaint most people who played Mass Effect 3 had: that the ending sucked.

[UntalkativeBunny]

Texansamurai wrote...

Not to mention the added DLC wasted, and 120+ hours over the span of 3 games wasted. A movie only wastes 3 hours of your time

It's only wasted cause you choose for it to be wasted. As far as I'm concerned, the 120+ hours over 3 games was well spent for me, and yes this is a vocal minority.

[Konfined]

Faust1979 wrote...

I have to say I agree with this article we don't go around crying and forcing movie studios to try and fix their movies when they make a bad one. Where were these people when hollywood pumps out something like the Tim Burton Planet of the Apes or the awful Green Lantern? No they are just riled up over a games ending because one game they didn't like and now suddenly Bioware is evil it's stupid

They were probably on IMDB warning the masses that those movies are garbage and should be avoided like the plague.  You should be thanking them for their 10 dollar sacrifice.

[Father_Jerusalem]

You ARE a vocal minority. It ISN'T just one person complaint bombing the FTC. You DO want to tear BioWare apart.

Sounds pretty accurate to me, but I can see why you'd get defensive about your motives being brought to light like that.

[Tazzmission]

Texansamurai wrote...

Vocal Minority? Yea right... I bet this guy hasn't even played ME 3

to be fair i think everyone ( like sites articles etc) are going to acuse all mass effect fans as being the same regarding the guy who went to the ftc.


im sorry but imo thats wrong from both him and the articles


should i who like the game and ending be labeled with this guy?


and yes there are SOME people in the take back group who agree with this guy and i just feel now as a fan i have to worry about being labeled as one of you who are pro movement

Modifié par Tazzmission, 20 mars 2012 - 07:54 .

[Han Shot First]

The PLC wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

The PLC wrote...

You are a vocal minority..

That represents the majority.

Prove it. 

Many people I know had no problem with the ending. The game has sold millions of copies.

It sold millions of copies before anyone knew anything about the endings. I preordered my copy, because I obviously hadn't gotten to the ending yet.

And it has already been proven that those who like the ending are a vocal minoriity. From polls to reviews on metacritic and amazon, to the BSN to the comment section on just about any ME3 related video on youtube, the response to the endings has been overwhelmingly negative.

[Navasha]

Sorry, but the "retake" movement doomed itself just like every movement that can't manage to keep their response in reasonable and appropriate boundaries.

The FTC and BBB childishness pretty much confirmed that the movement doesn't have that many rational and reasonable adults.

[natalZ]

I dont get it... since we are a "small vocal" or "some ppl", where is the majority vocal or the bunch of ppl that liked the ending?

There is no logic in the final minutes of the game..

Is just read more and more users asking for an end that have a minimum logic. And a lot of poll where the choice like "the end is bad" just get majority of votes by far...

Modifié par natalZ, 20 mars 2012 - 07:55 .

[kbct]

The PLC wrote...

The game has sold millions of copies.

The last number I have was 1.85 million copies sold. You have a new source?

Everything depends on sales over the coming weeks. Lots of people pre-ordered the game.

[Viyu]

I suspect that if Bioware is finally asking the fans for feedback to fix the game, then NO I don't think we're a minority. Keep in mind, they are probably getting letters and fanmail, and other figures we don't have access to at the present time.

Here's my issue. Even if we hypothetically WERE the minority (and I reeeeeally doubt this), does it matter? Didn't Bioware lie to us? Does being the minority suddenly change that fact? No, it doesn't. It was still false advertising, and I think they need some sort of sanction for it, even if it isn't major. Or at the very least they need to be held accountable.

Modifié par Viyu, 20 mars 2012 - 07:56 .

[Tazzmission]

Navasha wrote...

Sorry, but the "retake" movement doomed itself just like every movement that can't manage to keep their response in reasonable and appropriate boundaries.

The FTC and BBB childishness pretty much confirmed that the movement doesn't have that many rational and reasonable adults.

thats true. like i said before its the occupy wallstreet movment all over again


they protest without even being very informative on what there protesting about


saying something a lie isnt going to help there movement

[kbct]

Han Shot First wrote...

It sold millions of copies before anyone knew anything about the endings. I preordered my copy, because I obviously hadn't gotten to the ending yet.

And it has already been proven that those who like the ending are a vocal minoriity. From polls to reviews on metacritic and amazon, to the BSN to the comment section on just about any ME3 related video on youtube, the response to the endings has been overwhelmingly negative.

Exactly.

There is zero evidence that the majority LIKED the ending. There is plenty of evidence that the majority DID NOT LIKE the ending.

[ziloe]

Faust1979 wrote...

Viyu wrote...

Faust1979 wrote...

I have to say I agree with this article we don't go around crying and forcing movie studios to try and fix their movies when they make a bad one. Where were these people when hollywood pumps out something like the Tim Burton Planet of the Apes or the awful Green Lantern? No they are just riled up over a games ending because one game they didn't like and now suddenly Bioware is evil it's stupid

No its because Bioware promised something they didn't deliver. Were there multiple and distinct endings as promised? No. Do YOU get swindled out of 60 to 100 dollars when a movie is bad? No.

depending on the movie yeah especially if you go see a 3d movie they can be pricey and taking all your kids to see a movie those ticket prices can add up

Dude. You're comparing a game all about choices to a movie that you have to sit back and watch. It's not the same thing!

[Father_Jerusalem]

Han Shot First wrote...

The PLC wrote...

You are a vocal minority..

That represents the majority.

You guys do realise you ARE a vocal minority right? Large enough a minority to give pause, but still a minority.

...a vocal minority that represents a viewpoint held by the majority: that Mass Effect 3's endings sucked.

Prove "the majority". Do it. Come on. Over 1.35 million copies sold. Show me 675,001 unique complaints about the endings. I'll wait right here. Come on. DO IT. I'm waiting. 

[Tazzmission]

Han Shot First wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

The PLC wrote...

You are a vocal minority..

That represents the majority.

Prove it. 

Many people I know had no problem with the ending. The game has sold millions of copies.

It sold millions of copies before anyone knew anything about the endings. I preordered my copy, because I obviously hadn't gotten to the ending yet.

And it has already been proven that those who like the ending are a vocal minoriity. From polls to reviews on metacritic and amazon, to the BSN to the comment section on just about any ME3 related video on youtube, the response to the endings has been overwhelmingly negative.

um actually i knew about the endings before the game came out. my view on the game hasnt changed about loving it

im possitive alot of people read the leaked scripts and enjoyed the game

[terdferguson123]

You guys don't realize it, because you all agree with each other. But, outside of your little circle, most people see you for what you really are. With that said, you ARE bunch of angry and overzealous nerds... the op's post proves it, as well as anytime somebody attempts to discuss the ending, you flood that thread into a sea of anger/sarcasm/and general Bioware hate, anytime someone brings up a valid point your entire group sticks your fingers into your ears and desperately crawls to something else. All the while the OP is ironically trying to prove that the movement isn't angry/entitled/annoying. You also ARE the vocal minority, most people are perfectly fine with the endings. And, before you flame me on that last one, remember that there is life outside of the internet for a lot of gamers.

Modifié par terdferguson123, 20 mars 2012 - 08:03 .

[Faust1979]

Viyu wrote...

I suspect that if Bioware is finally asking the fans for feedback to fix the game, then NO I don't think we're a minority. Keep in mind, they are probably getting letters and fanmail, and other figures we don't have access to at the present time.

Here's my issue. Even if we hypothetically WERE the minority (and I reeeeeally doubt this), does it matter? Didn't Bioware lie to us? Does being the minority suddenly change that fact? No, it doesn't. It was still false advertising, and I think they need some sort of sanction for it, even if it isn't major. Or at the very least they need to be held accountable.

Bioware didn't lie to me because I don't pay attention to marketing I saw a few trailers but I don't read interviews or really follow the games creation that closely so I have no real reason to feel lied to what matters to me is the product they gave me is fun 

[Lycius]

Navasha wrote...

Sorry, but the "retake" movement doomed itself just like every movement that can't manage to keep their response in reasonable and appropriate boundaries.

The FTC and BBB childishness pretty much confirmed that the movement doesn't have that many rational and reasonable adults.

You just made yourself look childish by not realizing the reason the FTC complaint was filed or that the BBB rating was already an F before ME3

[Viyu]

Navasha wrote...

Sorry, but the "retake" movement doomed itself just like every movement that can't manage to keep their response in reasonable and appropriate boundaries.

The FTC and BBB childishness pretty much confirmed that the movement doesn't have that many rational and reasonable adults.

Why isn't it "rational"? If someone swindles you out of 60-100 dollars and you complacently let them, I don't see how that's rational, either. I think people are intentionally blowing this out of proportion, to some degree, as Bioware isn't even BBB accredited. As said before, the movement to file complaints are movements to file complaints. Not to destroy Bioware. Are people not technically making written complaints when they post here? At least these people are making official ones. And frankly, it's a lot more constructive IMO than complaining here and begging the people who lied to our faces about the day 1 DLC and the concept of multiple endings to just "be nice" and give us what we paid for.

Modifié par Viyu, 20 mars 2012 - 08:00 .

[Tazzmission]

The PLC wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

The PLC wrote...

You are a vocal minority..

That represents the majority.

Prove it. 

Many people I know had no problem with the ending. The game has sold millions of copies.

It sold millions of copies before anyone knew anything about the endings. I preordered my copy, because I obviously hadn't gotten to the ending yet.

And it has already been proven that those who like the ending are a vocal minoriity. From polls to reviews on metacritic and amazon, to the BSN to the comment section on just about any ME3 related video on youtube, the response to the endings has been overwhelmingly negative.

I don't see millions of votes in these polls, or millions of negative user reviews. 

people need to check polls on other sites and not just the bsn

the fans make it sound like if the bsn is the only legit place for accurate info regarding fans thoughts on such a situation

Modifié par Tazzmission, 20 mars 2012 - 07:59 .