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[USS Cushing]

A fixing the ending will cost too much? Keeping a loyal group of customers happy is too expensive?

Bioware/EA will fix the ending because somewhere they are having people in sales,PR, and other departments are producing a Cost/Benefit analysis report for the bosses of the company. And somewhere in that report is a number of scenarios about what will happen if they stay pat with the endings and what will happen if they release a DLC that gives a wide variety of endings.

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

Mutineer81 wrote...
Well, I think you need more than just a new final cut scene. To do it right, you just need more: more gameplay, more interactions, more scenarios, etc. More setup, rather than simply crowbarring a new cut scene in.

Perhaps that's just me, but it's not what I read on BSN since everyone began to speak of the ending.
Sure, there would be a lot to do on the game, but when it comes to the ending only the latest part, when fights are over, and the "What happens to important characters/places" are needed.

[MassEffect762]

How much is the praise of fans worth to them? Apparently not much.

[Aaleel]

Not willing them will cost money. There are people who won't by a piece of DLC for the game the way it is. They fix the ending now, they make more down the road.

[Squallypo]

forbes has good points in their articles regarding about the endings and this bad used dlc advertising /use of them , which are pretty much hurting the games itself seriusly the whole idea of DLC itself its pretty much ruining the *final content* of the product that we as consumers/gamers are paying for. i do expect to see and i know we all will a FIX/patch/dlc patch whatever you wanna call it and probably Free of Charge. people should also realize that ea/bioware gave this ending in a on purpose way. they wanted to see our reactions? well they nailed it on that.. and its hurting them in a way

[gosimmons]

Are we completely ruling out an expansion like Dragon Age Awakening?

[USS Cushing]

Is it very frustrating to hear "we are listening" and nothing more. Yes but I would point out most of you to this forum and read the first page and you will gain an understanding of what is going on at Bioware right now from the PR perspective. http://social.biowar...ex/10084349/282

Modifié par USS Cushing, 20 mars 2012 - 11:57 .

[DeinonSlayer]

Should Bioware make Ending DLC, and would you be willing to pay for it?

I'm not sure if a poll exactly like this one has yet been commissioned, but I wanted to give people a chance to express clearly what their opinions on this matter are. The available voting options are as follows:

* I want Ending DLC, and I'm willing to pay for it.
* I want Ending DLC, and I'm willing to pay for it, but only this one time.
* I want Ending DLC, but only if it is free.
* Ending DLC would not satisfy me. Bioware has already lost my business.
* I do not need Ending DLC, but I'm not opposed to its creation if others want it.
* Bioware should not make Ending DLC.

Please vote! There has been a lot of discussion regarding the endings, how they should change, if they should change, but not as much about whether it's good for Bioware. Let's try to send a clear message, and help Bioware make a business decision.

Please, spread the word around.

[Mole267]

XiaShou wrote...

i dont see money being an issue, cause many ppl stated they would pay alot for that. so costs are not really an issue

Hey, if they offer an overhaul of the game that makes it what it should've been in the first place... I'd gladly spend $50-$60 on that. Then again, it's possible that EA/BioWare had this plan from the beginning, so they could just sell DLC that improves the game.

I really wouldn't put it past EA. I looked back on all the DLC I bought for ME2 and how much I spent on it... It was equal to paying for ME2 twice. But all that extra content really did make it a richer game without breaking its cohesion, so in the end I really didn't mind. 

[TheSeventhJedi]

Vaktathi wrote...

This is one of those things where it may make business sense to do it even if you have to eat a loss on the project for the sake of the brand name and future sales of DLC content, further ME universe games, and other games under the studio brand. Protecting the value of the company and the potential viability of future sales may warrant this action even if by itself it loses money.

This.  I don't care what DLC they pump out, I'm not buying it unless I know it can possibly end in anything other than RGB death.

[ragnorok87]

i would gladly pay the sum of at least a 100 dollars hapily if i got a decent ending wortyhy of mass effect 3. i am indeed so desperate for a better ending to the piece of crap bioware made for an ending id go as high as 1000 dollars to see it.

this link to a youtube perfectly describes frustration and hate toward the mass effect 3 ending. also it is done tastefully without swearing and being vulgar. please check this out

[Hydralisk]

I won't buy any DLC for this game until we get a new ending or some sort of epilogue, probably won't buy any ME spin offs either.

[TLK Spires]

LucidStrike wrote...

That's not fair. It did end. We just weren't satified with it. Let's not be so libelous. =/

no, it didn't end. within the facts of the universe presented to us, that was an impossible ending, no matter what you did. if the mass relays are *destroyed*, which they are no matter what "choice" you made, all known solar systems are destroyed. and yet it is shown after the fact that this is not the case, as either at worst, only earth is shown as being destroyed, or at best (which was the case for me), you are shown that earth makes it, as does shepard.

that was *not* an ending, point, blank, period. more *has* to be added and addressed before *that* can be considered an actual ending.

[tdb023]

Salis777 wrote...


Thats _exactly_ it.  It's such a small fix to make this the gaming trilogy of all time.  That's what the passion is about, that's why it's so difficult to watch, that's why people are respectfully asking for an 'easy' change.

To leave it as it is is basically saying you're ok with losing hundreds of thousands of fans respect over what, trilogy-wise, is a 0.1% of content.  Seems ludicrous to me that they wouldn't address it.  But hey I've seen corporations do more mindblowing things.

Exactly, I know that Jennifer Hale would love to play Femshep again. I mean, look at all of the talent that was put into this game. I'm sure Martin Sheen did many more lines of dialogue than what TIM had in game. It's called editing. There's a ton of stuff that we will never see.

[TLK Spires]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Should Bioware make Ending DLC, and would you be willing to pay for it?

I'm not sure if a poll exactly like this one has yet been commissioned, but I wanted to give people a chance to express clearly what their opinions on this matter are. The available voting options are as follows:

* I want Ending DLC, and I'm willing to pay for it.
* I want Ending DLC, and I'm willing to pay for it, but only this one time.
* I want Ending DLC, but only if it is free.
* Ending DLC would not satisfy me. Bioware has already lost my business.
* I do not need Ending DLC, but I'm not opposed to its creation if others want it.
* Bioware should not make Ending DLC.

Please vote! There has been a lot of discussion regarding the endings, how they should change, if they should change, but not as much about whether it's good for Bioware. Let's try to send a clear message, and help Bioware make a business decision.

Please, spread the word around.

the fact that as of this post, the majority of people are willing to *pay* for it is sickening. is it right for people to pay even more to see the end of a movie? or how about the end of a book they already paid for in full? 

if they charge even one red cent, they open a can of worms. they will not just do the "unthinkable" by forcing people to pay to get an ending, but they will show other companies that people are willing to pay for it. and in the end, everybody will lose out.

[ragnorok87]

if bioware does not give me the epic ending that mass effect as a series and masterful work of art deserves and as us loyal fans deserve i will personall boycott all ea and bioware games and will also preach to others to do the same. if u still dont think mass effect deserves a better ending and its quote (just a videogame) please watch/listen to this music from mass effect. truly some of the most epic scores ever created. something this epic deserves an epic cool ending not an EPIC FAILURE PIECE OF CRAP NO CONCLUSION EVERYTHING TURNS BAD AND YOU HAVE NO CHOICE/ DECISION ON THE OUTCOME ENDING

[DeinonSlayer]

TLK Spires wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Should Bioware make Ending DLC, and would you be willing to pay for it?

I'm not sure if a poll exactly like this one has yet been commissioned, but I wanted to give people a chance to express clearly what their opinions on this matter are. The available voting options are as follows:

* I want Ending DLC, and I'm willing to pay for it.
* I want Ending DLC, and I'm willing to pay for it, but only this one time.
* I want Ending DLC, but only if it is free.
* Ending DLC would not satisfy me. Bioware has already lost my business.
* I do not need Ending DLC, but I'm not opposed to its creation if others want it.
* Bioware should not make Ending DLC.

Please vote! There has been a lot of discussion regarding the endings, how they should change, if they should change, but not as much about whether it's good for Bioware. Let's try to send a clear message, and help Bioware make a business decision.

Please, spread the word around.

the fact that as of this post, the majority of people are willing to *pay* for it is sickening. is it right for people to pay even more to see the end of a movie? or how about the end of a book they already paid for in full? 

if they charge even one red cent, they open a can of worms. they will not just do the "unthinkable" by forcing people to pay to get an ending, but they will show other companies that people are willing to pay for it. and in the end, everybody will lose out.

That's why I added the "Willing to pay for it, but only this one time" option. I am willing to pay for it, because the rest of the trilogy is just that amazing, but I don't want this to become habit in the industry. I just want an ending deserving of the journey thus far. By the time it could be developed and released, the game itself will be much cheaper for those of us who cancelled our pre-orders.

[ragnorok87]

it sure was an epic journey and an even more epic failure of an ending. i loved the games right up to the ending. the ending was so bad it tainted and diseased all that came before it. if i could get the truly epic ending that mass effect and all fans need want and deserve then ill pay the sum of 1000 dollars for it but no more. when i see the ending of mass effect 3 and listen to this music and reflect on the memories it made me cry. literally ball my eyes out. the ending is that bad. just look on yo0utube for mass effect ending reactions. one guy snaps his keyboard in half.

[Salis777]

TLK Spires wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Should Bioware make Ending DLC, and would you be willing to pay for it?

I'm not sure if a poll exactly like this one has yet been commissioned, but I wanted to give people a chance to express clearly what their opinions on this matter are. The available voting options are as follows:

* I want Ending DLC, and I'm willing to pay for it.
* I want Ending DLC, and I'm willing to pay for it, but only this one time.
* I want Ending DLC, but only if it is free.
* Ending DLC would not satisfy me. Bioware has already lost my business.
* I do not need Ending DLC, but I'm not opposed to its creation if others want it.
* Bioware should not make Ending DLC.

Please vote! There has been a lot of discussion regarding the endings, how they should change, if they should change, but not as much about whether it's good for Bioware. Let's try to send a clear message, and help Bioware make a business decision.

Please, spread the word around.

the fact that as of this post, the majority of people are willing to *pay* for it is sickening. is it right for people to pay even more to see the end of a movie? or how about the end of a book they already paid for in full? 

if they charge even one red cent, they open a can of worms. they will not just do the "unthinkable" by forcing people to pay to get an ending, but they will show other companies that people are willing to pay for it. and in the end, everybody will lose out.

I think it's a can of worms too, but Bioware has a solid and forgiving fanbase and it's a compromise that works for both sides.  I don't think many companies could 'get away' with it, but I don't think Bioware did this intentionally and the whole series is nigh on perfect.

[TLK Spires]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

That's why I added the "Willing to pay for it, but only this one time" option. I am willing to pay for it, because the rest of the trilogy is just that amazing, but I don't want this to become habit in the industry. I just want an ending deserving of the journey thus far. By the time it could be developed and released, the game itself will be much cheaper for those of us who cancelled our pre-orders.

if anybody does it "just this one time" because it's 'just so amazing', then what's to stop other companies from seeing that and taking advantage of it? there are other games out there that people feel, or will feel, as strongly for, and then said companies, seeing that it worked for that 'one' time, will have no qualms about cashing in as well.

if they do release an actual ending, i will not pay one red cent for it, because as much as i want to see an actual ending to a trilogy i've taken so much from, i don't want it to be at the cost of not just my morality, but not at the cost of future great stories being sullied and dirtied in such a way.

like i said. if they do nothing, can of worms, as what we have now is not a possible ending. if they do something, can of worms, as it says that the game is not truly complete, although it was advertised as such. but it can end there by doing so free of charge. 

or it can, once again, open one of the biggest cans of worms known in the context of said business by charging money for it.

Modifié par TLK Spires, 21 mars 2012 - 12:23 .

[android654]

I doubt they'll make an addendum to the ending and only that. The expected returns are not high enough to justify the cost to do it. Yes people here are vocal, and in other places, but a project like this, to begin unexpectedly and produce the product in a timely manner would be like producing a game itself. It's just not justifiable, so they wont do it. Make no mistake though, people complaining about the ending will purchase other dlc. It'll be for the same reason they weren't smart enough to wait for reviews before buying ME3, they'll buy anything with BW stamped on it.

[Haron50]

Bioware no fix this DISASTER?

result:

FANS AND PLAYERS NEVER BUY MORE A GAME.

[TLK Spires]

Salis777 wrote...

I think it's a can of worms too, but Bioware has a solid and forgiving fanbase and it's a compromise that works for both sides.  I don't think many companies could 'get away' with it, but I don't think Bioware did this intentionally and the whole series is nigh on perfect.

deliberate or not, it happened. inaction is still a choice. they way they wanted to see what 'choices' people will make in their game is the same way i want to see what they will do or not do. and then we'll see how people respond.

[Iodine]

I have hope only because it was specifically stated that the team, rather than moving on to other series/games, stuck around to work on ME3 DLC. Assuming that's still in progress (that they're not all already finished), presumably they'll be having the voice actors and everyone come in for recording anyway, etc. *crosses fingers*

[ragnorok87]

TLK Spires wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

That's why I added the "Willing to pay for it, but only this one time" option. I am willing to pay for it, because the rest of the trilogy is just that amazing, but I don't want this to become habit in the industry. I just want an ending deserving of the journey thus far. By the time it could be developed and released, the game itself will be much cheaper for those of us who cancelled our pre-orders.

if anybody does it "just this one time" because it's 'just so amazing', then what's to stop other companies from seeing that and taking advantage of it? there are other games out there that people feel, or will feel, as strongly for, and then said companies, seeing that it worked for that 'one' time, will have no qualms about cashing in as well.

if they do release an actual ending, i will not pay one red cent for it, because as much as i want to see an actual ending to a trilogy i've taken so much from, i don't want it to be at the cost of not just my morality, but not at the cost of future great stories being sullied and dirtied in such a way.

like i said. if they do nothing, can of worms, as what we have now is not a possible ending. if they do something, can of worms, as it says that the game is not truly complete, although it was advertised as such. but it can end there by doing so free of charge. 

or it can, once again, open one of the biggest cans of worms known in the context of said business by charging money for it.

actually weither bioware cxreates a new ending or not, weither you pay for it or not, a can of worms has already been open. other companies will have seen how bad the ending for mass effect 3 and will want to replicate. also if any of them have seen any posts reguarding the me3 ending its too late they already have the idea. so bioware should do the ending reguardless and if i have to pay to get an awsome ending i shall gladly do so because mass effect is just that good (except the ending which sucks really REALLY bad) also wouldnt you want an ending that goes along with this
it is truly epic and nothing that sounds like that should end like mass effect 3 did. it is treason, heresy and a great crime against humanity!