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[StarcloudSWG]

It will cost them a lot more if they don't.

I'm certain I'm not alone in no longer purchasing their games if they do not commit to, write, and implement a complete, proper ending to Mass Effect 3.

[Squallypo]

wastelander75 wrote...

@Squallypo wrote...

You Top Gun sig is hilarious!

rofl i know i love it even though its a bit harsh on ME 3 itself ( i love mass effect 3 but the ending...) so i cant avoid but to have it there. 

[Northernian]

Unless they develop a large expansion pack fixing all those plotholes, I'm done with Mass Effect.
Yesterday I began a new playthrough in ME1. It really left a sour taste in my mouth knowing that what I'm doing is worthless. And I'm really not interested in bang bang, pow pow...

So @ OP, yes this isn't a situation could be fixed with a simple DLC. The whole game was unsatisfactory for me, mostly because they substantially downplayed Reapers, potentially one of the most awe-inspiring villain forces in whole Sci-fi literature. They didn't remain true to that amazing Lovercraftian storyline they began in the beginning. Or they merely lacked imagination in the end, and built a sloppy ending...

[thunderhawk862002]

EA probably has the cash reserves to release it for free. Bioware is just a brand.

Edit:  It would have to cost something for 360 users since Microsoft doesn't allow free dlc.

Modifié par thunderhawk862002, 21 mars 2012 - 02:26 .

[Squallypo]

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

EA probably has the cash reserves to release it for free. Bioware is just a brand.

Edit:  It would have to cost something for 360 users since Microsoft doesn't allow free dlc.

i didnt paid for zaaed though i just used the code, which bioware could simple provide to us threw the community forum as in a generic code for those that bought the game or for those that has registered the game to prevent hackers to use the code.

[Rrezz]

CBKeffer wrote...

Rrezz wrote...

there's no reason to change the ending, its fine the way it is. just because a couple of dense high schoolers don't like it doesn't mean it has to change

Um, you are aware that in every poll posted thus far (not just on here, but FB and other media outlets) the stats have shown more like 96-98% are dissatisfied with the endings, right? No matter how you slice it, that's more than just "a couple of dense high schoolers".

probably because 100% of those idiots are high schoolers. all us adults have much better **** to do than spend all day on facebook answering pointless surveys

[Salis777]

Rrezz wrote...

CBKeffer wrote...

Rrezz wrote...

there's no reason to change the ending, its fine the way it is. just because a couple of dense high schoolers don't like it doesn't mean it has to change

Um, you are aware that in every poll posted thus far (not just on here, but FB and other media outlets) the stats have shown more like 96-98% are dissatisfied with the endings, right? No matter how you slice it, that's more than just "a couple of dense high schoolers".

probably because 100% of those idiots are high schoolers. all us adults have much better **** to do than spend all day on facebook answering pointless surveys

Like discuss pointless surveys?

[hypothead]

Vaktathi wrote...

This is one of those things where it may make business sense to do it even if you have to eat a loss on the project for the sake of the brand name and future sales of DLC content, further ME universe games, and other games under the studio brand. Protecting the value of the company and the potential viability of future sales may warrant this action even if by itself it loses money.

^^^This. Simple way to put it, sacrifice now benefit later.

[LadyAly]

If the Indoctrination theory is right - and it was already planned - why should money be an issue ?

[Salis777]

If they come out with some additional ending 'Indoctrination' DLC I can't believe what a mess it'll be. Why are retailers taking returns for the game right now? What'll happen to the people that paid restocking fees for returns. I mean, there's 100 things I can think of that will be a complete mess on top of a total fiasco.

I mean on paper it's sort of a grandiose plan, but wow it isn't going to play out very well lol.

[AlanC9]

Like most conspiracy theories, this one assumes Bio has much greater ability to plan ahead and execute those plans than seems rational.

[Jaulen]

arial wrote...

XiaShou wrote...

i dont see money being an issue, cause many ppl stated they would pay alot for that. so costs are not really an issue

however I am sure many (not all, but many) are younger gamers who don't have a crdit card to purchase online DLC. therefore could not follow through on their claim.

Actually, a mainstream video game player is in their mid 30's.....and we got credit cards and discretionary income.

[Everwarden]

Funkcase wrote...

not doing it could cost them more in the future.

That, pretty much. Bioware needs to start thinking in terms of regaining customer loyalty, not short term gain. 

[FatalX7.0]

Making DLC costs money.

But they make it anyway.

[Kanner]

This isn't just going to go away. They can fix the problem, or they might as well rename the company Broware and get Michael Bay to script and produce their next action game.

[Getorex]

AlanC9 wrote...

Like most conspiracy theories, this one assumes Bio has much greater ability to plan ahead and execute those plans than seems rational.

Yep.  This.  Whenever someone tries to argue this or that disaster was some Jedi Mind Trick ™ marketing ploy or that the whole debacle is some elaborate joke or punk, Occam's Razor says "No it ain't.  It is a good old fashion Mongolian Clusterf*ckup and nothing more."

[Getorex]

Salis777 wrote...

Rrezz wrote...

CBKeffer wrote...

Rrezz wrote...

there's no reason to change the ending, its fine the way it is. just because a couple of dense high schoolers don't like it doesn't mean it has to change

Um, you are aware that in every poll posted thus far (not just on here, but FB and other media outlets) the stats have shown more like 96-98% are dissatisfied with the endings, right? No matter how you slice it, that's more than just "a couple of dense high schoolers".

probably because 100% of those idiots are high schoolers. all us adults have much better **** to do than spend all day on facebook answering pointless surveys

Like discuss pointless surveys?

Youch!  A hit! A palpable hit!

[Getorex]

A fix CANNOT be merely tacking on an epilogue showing what happened to whom, etc.

This would lead to something like...

So, just before the Crucible is fired up, the order goes out to the combined military fleets of the allies to run away! Run away! Because nobody knew what would happen when the Crucible was fired (as if Earth would be OK with firing a weapon they truly thought might annihilate Earth and all its inhabitants). So all the fleets turn and run, abandoning Earth and jumping through the relays all the way back to their homeworlds. Problem: the military armada assembled around Earth is the strongest it will EVER be. It is disastrous militarily to disperse that fleet back to their homeworlds, undoing the entire point of combining arms. They are at the peak of their strength and then they all bailout and immediately reduce themselves to the weakest they've ever been. See the problem?

The Normandy escape problem cannot go away either. The people on the Normandy ARE DOOMED. Period. They CANNOT create a new civilization on Jurassic Park planet. After a few short generations of baby-making, EVERYONE would be brothers and sisters! Dead end, end of the line. Extinction.

Blowing the relays is THE biggest problem. It creates so many horrible problems for everyone in the galaxy that a mere happy-ish epilogue that changes nothing cannot fix it unless we all close our eyes tight and repeat "There's no place like home. There's no place like home."

[Aquilas]

As others have noted, BioWare just cancelled an expansion to DA2 and could devote those resources to an ME3 fix at the expansion pack level. I support that plan, but it's highly unlikely; BioWare already needs to fix the DA franchise. It's a matter of priorities. We'll see.

Modifié par Aquilas, 21 mars 2012 - 11:53 .

[zer0netgain]

I don't know what the long plan is for ME3. Whether there is a "real" ending to be released or if what we got is all we get, I can tell you that IF indeed the POS ending we got is all they plan to do, I will not buy any of the DLC for ME3. Indeed, I will have a hard time justifying keeping ME and ME2 in my library. Why play a series just to get a nonsensical ending?

The way they ruin the ending with poor writing and poor logic and pretty much break every promise made while marketing the game (regarding how it will end), gives me no reason to want to invest in DLC for it or buy future ME titles.

[Mutineer81]

zer0netgain wrote...

I don't know what the long plan is for ME3. Whether there is a "real" ending to be released or if what we got is all we get, I can tell you that IF indeed the POS ending we got is all they plan to do, I will not buy any of the DLC for ME3. Indeed, I will have a hard time justifying keeping ME and ME2 in my library. Why play a series just to get a nonsensical ending?

The way they ruin the ending with poor writing and poor logic and pretty much break every promise made while marketing the game (regarding how it will end), gives me no reason to want to invest in DLC for it or buy future ME titles.

Interesting. I think, to put it in perspective, in order to quell the public relations backlash and to simply save the game, Bioware will have to release something similar to FO3 Broken Steal, but they will have to go above and beyond that.

Quite frankly, they may have to come up with the most involved, comprehension, and well-created DLC (or expansion pack) ever created...at little to no cost. Again, I think the best we can hope for is some cheap, lame, half-assed patchwork DLC. Its sad, really.

[Vincent Rosevalliant]

Bioware is losing customers over this. People are returning their game or borrowing/pirating it first to see what the fuss is about. If you knew the ending beforehand, would you buy it? I will not.

Bioware should not think of the cost of fixing as a cost, more like an investment. They were great because of past games. We believed them because of past experiences. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain by redeeming themselves.

[Arkitekt]

LadyAly wrote...

If the Indoctrination theory is right - and it was already planned - why should money be an issue ?

Because the theory is wrong.