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[The Executioner]

wildannie wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

I think the DA2 comparison is a bit extreme. I mean:

ME3: Fail ending, bits and pieces of halfassery here and there

DA2: Failure throughout, downright shameful in nearly every capacity

ME3 is not another DA2. It's waayy better then DA2 was.

My expectations were higher for ME3 as it was a direct continuation of Shepards story and the culmination of 3 games.  DA2 was flawed but I had some fun with it... ME3 makes me feel a bit sick .

I will probably check out DA3 (unless its an mmo) I am unlikely to EVER go invest in anything else Mass Effect related, my trust in the team and interest in what they might produce is extremely low.

I'll take DA2 over ME3 7 days a week and twice on sunday ME3 is a failure.

[manbot69]

While the ire can simmer down I don't think this issue will ever truely blow over until Bioware does something. ME is very special to alot of people. The issue isn't even that hard of a fix. If they refuse to do it then it just shows stubbornness and disconnect with the fans. This kind of damage to an IP and a company rep doesn't go away with time EA/Bioware have to step up and do something. Imagine last year if Netflix just went silent on the Qwikster thing?

Modifié par manbot69, 21 mars 2012 - 01:20 .

[Salis777]

Gnaeus.Silvanus wrote...

Go to the official Mass Effect Facebook page and bash them there, news media outfits watch that page.

The discussion is with Bioware about whats wrong with the game, they read their own forums I expect.

[bleachorange]

Tirigon wrote...

bleachorange wrote...


Unless you use your brain and read this. I also have a nice blog about it, if you're interested.

:wizard:Spaaaace MAGIC!!!

The problem is that even if you see the ending as a way of bioWare to intentionally screw with their customers, that doesnt make it worse. We have a word for such actions. It's Fraud.

I take it you actually read them?

[Saint Op]

If it is made of straw or wood..pretty quick I hear...
This may be made of bricks..but I doubt it because the interwebz is silly putty...
this is also the dark ages dont forget..

[Launcifer]

ragnorok87 wrote...

i have also heard someone saying they would kill themselves if bioware does not fix the ending and that this is truly how it ends. when someone is willing to kill themselves faust it is IMPACTING THEIR LIVES A GREAT DEAL

If someone genuinely feels that way and it isn't internet exagerration, then what they need is a cup of tea (I'm English: tea fixes everything), a hug from a friend (preferably along with a dose of "It's just a flipping game") and an appointment with a medical professional. That simply isn't healthy behaviour and nobody should be so immersed in a computer game that this seems like a sensible response to dissatisfaction with any part of it.
 
And no, no one's going to be able to convince me otherwise.

Modifié par Launcifer, 21 mars 2012 - 01:25 .

[Alenkosexualtendencies]

Faust1979 wrote...

Kilshrek wrote...

How I showed my displeasure with DA 2, I didn't buy any of their DLC.

If anyone thinks this will blow over easily I think you'll find it to be very different, for a variety of reasons. Not least of which because 5 years were wasted by 5 minutes.

why shouldn't it? it's just an ending there is no reason why anyone should get bent over shape about it something, lots ot things have dissapointing endings, some people will find reasons to like them, some will hate it just move on in the end, the way this game ends will really have little impact on your life people need to stop making it personal

I think the core problem is that Mass effect was by design, too emotionally involving. Allot of the "hardcore fans" really invested emotionally into these games, and after five years of anticipation and speculation.... the cliche'd endings bioware produced simply failed to meet expectations for this niche fanbase. I can completely understand new fans of the series who jumped in midway through (say mass 2 or even mass 3), and who can see this ending literally for what it is without dissapointment. 

Personally, coming from a shooter game fanbase (Call of Duty... yeah i'm one of those), I probably would have been cool with the phyrric ending. But I played this series since mass 1, done all of the dlc missions and really got into the vibe of this trilogy: and I know I'm not alone. 

I know it's been stated time and time again, but it wasn't just the pyrhicc hopeless void of an ending that really irks this niche of the fanbase.... it's the fact that only three options have been provided. Three options, when the very ethos of this series has been about choice and how decisions affect yourself and others.. a very "lucasesque" ethos. When 16 endings (I know, broken record blah blah blah) have been previously promised, it is easy to see how the "color blast" endings enrage certain fans. 

While I do support the take back mass 3 ending movement, and would post in the spoilers end of the forum if the registration of mass 3 didn't glitch out on me.... I do somewhat feel embarassed at the lack of tact in which some of the "protest" fans have decided to take action. Really..... an FTC complaint? I do hope that the fans standing up for the community continue to do so with some level of dignity. Bioware is afterall entitled to artistic freedom with their material. Even though many of us (myself included) think they messed up on mass 3, they are still entitled to give us the terrible ending they envisioned for this franchise. 

[Father_Jerusalem]

Love it.

LOVE IT.

First page and already being attacked and told that if you like the endings, you have to be an idiot. Oh man. That's just super.

If you don't LIKE the endings, that's fine. I'm not going to waste my time telling you you should, personal taste is personal taste, and it's different for everyone. Have fun hating something and living your life like that.

But if you sit there and say things like "these endings fail on every level" or "There's no objective way you can like these endings" or "these endings are full of massive plot holes", then quite frankly, I can do something about that. That I will argue against. Are the endings perfect? No, of course not. But are they the worst things since stabbed kittens? No, of course not.

Any time your side wants to start acting rational and have discussions over the issues you have so that we can see where both sides are coming from, great, hit me up.

But if your side is going to sit there and throw a hissy fit because you didn't get every single thing you wanted, and continually rip on people for liking the ending, and trolling these boards with 30000000000 new threads a day, and going into threads that have nothing to do with the endings and bringing your trollbait there... well. To hell with you. That kind of behavior makes me hope BioWare never gives you a damn thing.

Contribute constructively or gtfo.

We're taking the boards back.

[DonJuan2000]

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

Overule wrote...

It'll blow over when they start talking to us like adults.

Maybe they'll start talking to you guys like adults when your "movement" stops acting like children. 

Not all of you but some of you bash and personally attack people if they support Bioware or like the ending.  They have the right to express their opinion on these boards just as much as any of you.

If somone posts a positive comment about the endings they are immeaditely branded "Bio-drones" and "trolls"

Act like adults and you will be treated as such.

its not merely about Ahestetic. This is not an exibition.....huge mistake approach like it was. This is a story, SCI-FI one, much better an interactive one, much better an RPG, the main character is the player itself. Narrative art require some rules. You cannot start with John Rambo of space and end with Harry Potter, this is not art, its schizofrenia  Some things should never leave "design tables".
Let me say, the same ending can much improved just to cut harry potter and mass realy explosion.... thats mean writing errors, lack of direction and maybe scripting too ( pay your writers more  ! Listen screenplayers and so on.... ). Anyway Much better to cut all cittadel delirous stuff.

[DannieCraft]

There is a lot of harsh comments in this thread from both sides. Personally I respect that everyone have an opinion of their own. I especially respect the choices made from BioWare and the Mass Effect Core Team.

I do not think it is fair to call this "simply a game". When thousands of fans are coming together, saying that they have loved the mass Effect series from the beginning, invested a great amount of time, involved themselves in every choice, character relation and epic storytelling that comes with the games BUT were dissapointed at the end. It does not rule out their opinions, nor does it make their requests "silly" or "childish".

To say this will blow over soon is to truly underestimate the will of a great mass of fans, who want nothing else but more closure to the end of their beloved trilogy. We are not talking a major change to the entire game, but a consideration to close plotholes at the very end - as a DLC, making it optional to all who does not share our point of view, respectfully.

[Eulalia Danae]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Eulalia Danae wrote...

What does saving the galaxy mean to you? Simply getting rid of the reapers? Because last I checked the reapers don't actually destroy galaxies.

And if the galaxy had been destroyed as you claim, there would have been no Normandy epilogue, nor would there have been a coda. So I'm sorry, but the galaxy is in fact still there with people still alive on distant worlds in the future, and preserving life was one of our goals.

 My point was that you can't save the galaxy if it wasn't in trouble to begin with, so saying "Shepard sacrificed to save the galaxy" is factually incorrect.

Edited: To remove unecessary meanness.

Modifié par Eulalia Danae, 21 mars 2012 - 01:53 .

[OutlawTorn6806]

The real question is how can a game company survive with such fans

[Blackmind1]

Hardcore Biodr0nes (That word is blocked on here? WTF?) all act like they're ten. I love playing with them and entertaining their theories on indoctrination. Even though it was the first thing I came up with before I even came to the internet to find out about the end, I still don't think it's true. This has dragged out too long, and the only "hints" Bioware are giving are just ways of keeping us interested and excited while figuring out a plan.

Modifié par Blackmind1, 21 mars 2012 - 01:34 .

[bleachorange]

slyguy200 wrote...
Yes, they need some chill-pills and... nothing else but express there dissapointment, then they will be fine.

Remember, the chill pills are the RED ones.

[MegaBadExample]

It won't blow over in a month. The game will still be available to buy in shops.

Besides, here in the UK the Mass Effect ending just made BBC news. Which is quite amazing.

[Tirigon]

bleachorange wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

bleachorange wrote...


Unless you use your brain and read this. I also have a nice blog about it, if you're interested.

:wizard:Spaaaace MAGIC!!!

The problem is that even if you see the ending as a way of bioWare to intentionally screw with their customers, that doesnt make it worse. We have a word for such actions. It's Fraud.

I take it you actually read them?

Yes, as a matter of fact. I happen to be interested in this topic.

And also the League of Legends EU servers are down for patching, so I had to stop playing with my friends

[Blackmind1]

MegaBadExample wrote...

It won't blow over in a month. The game will still be available to buy in shops.

Besides, here in the UK the Mass Effect ending just made BBC news. Which is quite amazing.

Y'know what they say, "All publicity is good publicity!" 

[bleachorange]

slyguy200 wrote...

OutlawTorn6806 wrote...

The real question is how can a game company survive with such fans

The fans were not always like that BW made them that way.

Yes, before the Emperor came to power, Darth Vader was a little boy named Anakin who believed in the Angels of Iago.

Then, BAM, Mace lied to him, and he turned to the dark side.

[gabewpashere]

Faust1979 wrote...

a few weeks I've been here on the board on and off since Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic and a lot of complainers on this board don't have a long memory.

Those who dont have a long memory still remember DA2. This ending problem will not blow over anytime soon. Do not insult those you don't know or have never met. Mind your manners child. 

[Father_Jerusalem]

Blackmind1 wrote...

Hardcore Biodr0nes (That word is blocked on here? WTF?) all act like they're ten. I love playing with them and entertaining their theories on indoctrination. Even though it was the first thing I came up with before I even came to the internet to find out about the end, I still don't think it's true. This has dragged out too long, and the only "hints" Bioware are giving are just ways of keeping us interested and excited while figuring out a plan.

Again, love it. "If you don't agree with the fact that I hate the ending, you're a bio-drone".

Says a lot about the kind of rational discussion we can have with you.






(spoiler alert: none. no kind of rational discussion.)

[bleachorange]

MegaBadExample wrote...

It won't blow over in a month. The game will still be available to buy in shops.

Besides, here in the UK the Mass Effect ending just made BBC news. Which is quite amazing.

What did they say?

[Father_Jerusalem]

bleachorange wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

bleachorange wrote...


Unless you use your brain and read this. I also have a nice blog about it, if you're interested.

:wizard:Spaaaace MAGIC!!!

The problem is that even if you see the ending as a way of bioWare to intentionally screw with their customers, that doesnt make it worse. We have a word for such actions. It's Fraud.

I take it you actually read them?

Yes. I did. You have a problem with that?