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slyguy200 wrote...

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Have you, I don't know, looked around to see any of the pro-ending posts to see what they're saying about the endings, or would that shatter your narrow little worldview?


Well, i have seen hundreds of these posts and i don't get it either how could they find that crap at all satisfying or get any closure out of it, and when i ask they just call me a whiiny entitled child.


So you should call them blind and clueless sheep:devil:

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I wouldn't count on it blowing over quickly.

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MegaBadExample wrote...

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It won't blow over in a month. The game will still be available to buy in shops.

Besides, here in the UK the Mass Effect ending just made BBC news. Which is quite amazing.


What did they say?:huh:


More outrage basically. It just keeps coming.


It will keep coming until everyone has played the game. Then it will stand at 91% thinking the endings suck, 7% being confused, and 2% liking them. At least, that's my prediction.


Yeah. I really can't understand how a long-term fan of the series could say the ending were good. It just didn't make sense, and your choices meant jack all. It all comes down to what colour you prefer, really. And then Joker magically shows up on some tropical plannet....

Anyway the guy said: "They just completely destroyed the whole game for us. If I wanted to get my soul crushed, I could just turn on the TV and put the news on."

Lol, I think he was looking for a happy ending. Me though? I just want it to make sense. I don't care if Shepard dies.


Have you, I don't know, looked around to see any of the pro-ending posts to see what they're saying about the endings, or would that shatter your narrow little worldview?


Explain the Normandy crash scene. Or could you at the very least tell me another story about The Shepard?


It's a sequel hook? Seriously though - and, trying to do this without spoilers, since it's not the spoiler zone - I have no problem with the possibility that what happened at the end was a different but similar thing to what happened at the end of Arrival and might therefore come with different results attached. I don't necessarily think that the ending(s) did a great job of justifying the difference, but I'm more than willing to entertain the possibility that there is one.

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I've never seen anything like this before, and I've played games a long time. I wouldn't count on it going anywhere anytime soon.

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bleachorange wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

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Have you, I don't know, looked around to see any of the pro-ending posts to see what they're saying about the endings, or would that shatter your narrow little worldview?


Well, i have seen hundreds of these posts and i don't get it either how could they find that crap at all satisfying or get any closure out of it, and when i ask they just call me a whiiny entitled child.


So you should call them blind and clueless sheep:devil:


http://social.biowar...5/index/9905757  there's one. Of course, it gets infested early on in the first page for the crime of daring to enjoy the ending, but hey, we've come to expect that by now.

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Explain the Normandy crash scene. Or could you at the very least tell me another story about The Shepard?


The Normandy crash scene... I can't. I wish I could. I really do. But that **** is retarded. I'm a pro-ending guy and I'll fully admit that. It makes no sense, and it just... it's so stupid.

I will say that there's no evidence other than "they're both on planets with trees" to link the Normandy crash with Stargazer, given that Stargazer can fire without anyone on the Normandy surviving. That leads me to believe that the Normandy survivors get picked up at some point and live their lives.

Other than that, sorry, I got nothing. That's the one part of the ending that I just can't rectify, and I won't bother trying.


I can't help with that but i can explain the stargazer, the old guy basically says that there is more to shepards story, and that is shown here (towards the end)

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Oh you poor poor persecuted overwhelming majority. That's the apologist spheel right? You're in the right and you're the ones with the numbers (and the proof to back up that claim!) and yet you're bullied and ignored. Am I warm?

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ragnorok87 wrote...

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How I showed my displeasure with DA 2, I didn't buy any of their DLC.

If anyone thinks this will blow over easily I think you'll find it to be very different, for a variety of reasons. Not least of which because 5 years were wasted by 5 minutes.


why shouldn't it? it's just an ending there is no reason why anyone should get bent over shape about it something, lots ot things have dissapointing endings, some people will find reasons to like them, some will hate it just move on in the end, the way this game ends will really have little impact on your life people need to stop making it personal


if mass effect did not impact your life then you are not a true fan. i should think that by the reactions of the VAST MAJORITY of ppl who played mass effect series would tell you that mass effect has indeed impacted their lifes to a great deal. i have never seen such anger towards any game like this before. thats because mass effect is way boyond a videogame. it is one of the greatest most epic stories ever and a masterful work of art (except the ending of course) when something makes you cry as in a story or something like that it is IMPACTING YOU. you clearly had no connection with the characters like the vast majority of players did and yo9u were obviously not caring about the story at all.


I love the games but I'm not going to pretend they are original the storytelling is great but at the same time it copies ideas from dozens of different sci fi stories and series. The games are an homage to 80s pulp sci fi action films.

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In terms of people actively ****ing, not too long. Couple more months. In terms of people remembering? Longer, much longer. As someone else said, whenever ME comes up, it's the ending that will be discussed.

I like the game, I liked the ending till the ending (ie. I liked everything up to meeting a certain glowing person). But the basic continuity issues drive me up the wall. Forget wanting a happy ending, I want an ending that doesn't violate continuity.

The problem right now is that I don't trust Bioware to make great games. Just decent ones. I won't say I'll never buy a Bioware game again, I will. But I won't be pre-ordering CE's anymore, That means less money for EA.

As for ME3, I won't buy ANY DLC until they do something about the ending. I'd even be satisfied with a patch that fixes a certain scene with the Normandy to make sense.

I'm a core customer, I've been a bioware fanboy since BG1. Bioware was the only company where I would always buy any game they make that was available on my platform (PC right now.)

Many other people feel the same way.

The psychological lit supports this, by the way. People can enjoy an entire book/movie/TV series and if the ending disappoints, they'll remember the entire thing badly.

There wouldn't be half the hate if the ending made sense, y'know. It'd be kind of lousy, but the continuity errors are just so glaring.

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slyguy200 wrote...

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Explain the Normandy crash scene. Or could you at the very least tell me another story about The Shepard?


The Normandy crash scene... I can't. I wish I could. I really do. But that **** is retarded. I'm a pro-ending guy and I'll fully admit that. It makes no sense, and it just... it's so stupid.

I will say that there's no evidence other than "they're both on planets with trees" to link the Normandy crash with Stargazer, given that Stargazer can fire without anyone on the Normandy surviving. That leads me to believe that the Normandy survivors get picked up at some point and live their lives.

Other than that, sorry, I got nothing. That's the one part of the ending that I just can't rectify, and I won't bother trying.


I can't help with that but i can explain the stargazer, the old guy basically says that there is more to shepards story, and that is shown here


Oh I've seen Stargazer, he fired in my game because I played it with an ME2 import. And all I can is that he's a plot hook, or a coda. It still doesn't mean he's on the same planet as the Normandy crash, and as a bit of exposition at the end of the game, telling you that your story hasn't been forgotten among the galaxy... it's fine. 

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It'll blow over when they start talking to us like adults.

Maybe they'll start talking to you guys like adults when your "movement" stops acting like children. 

Not all of you but some of you bash and personally attack people if they support Bioware or like the ending.  They have the right to express their opinion on these boards just as much as any of you.

If somone posts a positive comment about the endings they are immeaditely branded "Bio-drones" and "trolls"

Act like adults and you will be treated as such.


So true.  Personally, I hope they do release a revised ending as paid DLC.  Then we'll see whether we get a repeat of this: http://www.rockpaper...otts-seriously/

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I can't help with that but i can explain the stargazer, the old guy basically says that there is more to shepards story, and that is shown here


Oh I've seen Stargazer, he fired in my game because I played it with an ME2 import. And all I can is that he's a plot hook, or a coda. It still doesn't mean he's on the same planet as the Normandy crash, and as a bit of exposition at the end of the game, telling you that your story hasn't been forgotten among the galaxy... it's fine. 


I don't get how it applies to what i said. Look near the end of the video, or watch the whole thing it will make it a lot clearer

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Father_Jerusalem wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

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Explain the Normandy crash scene. Or could you at the very least tell me another story about The Shepard?


The Normandy crash scene... I can't. I wish I could. I really do. But that **** is retarded. I'm a pro-ending guy and I'll fully admit that. It makes no sense, and it just... it's so stupid.

I will say that there's no evidence other than "they're both on planets with trees" to link the Normandy crash with Stargazer, given that Stargazer can fire without anyone on the Normandy surviving. That leads me to believe that the Normandy survivors get picked up at some point and live their lives.

Other than that, sorry, I got nothing. That's the one part of the ending that I just can't rectify, and I won't bother trying.


I can't help with that but i can explain the stargazer, the old guy basically says that there is more to shepards story, and that is shown here


Oh I've seen Stargazer, he fired in my game because I played it with an ME2 import. And all I can is that he's a plot hook, or a coda. It still doesn't mean he's on the same planet as the Normandy crash, and as a bit of exposition at the end of the game, telling you that your story hasn't been forgotten among the galaxy... it's fine. 


I actually thought the stargazer wasn't a bad touch: it's a nod to the wonders of the universe and the exploration of space, especially with you-know-who's cameo. I could have done without Bioware using it as a "buy dlc" thing, but I kinda liked the acknowledgement that a story has been told.

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slyguy200 wrote...

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I can't help with that but i can explain the stargazer, the old guy basically says that there is more to shepards story, and that is shown here


Oh I've seen Stargazer, he fired in my game because I played it with an ME2 import. And all I can is that he's a plot hook, or a coda. It still doesn't mean he's on the same planet as the Normandy crash, and as a bit of exposition at the end of the game, telling you that your story hasn't been forgotten among the galaxy... it's fine. 


I don't get how it applies to what i said. Look near the end of the video, or watch the whole thing it will make it a lot clearer


Oh god, indoctrination theory? No. Sorry. No, that's just crazy. I'm sorry. If you believe BioWare is using indoctrination theory, you have to believe BioWare is trying to actively mind control players and if you believe that... man, I have some tin foil if you need to make a hat....

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I've never seen anything like this before, and I've played games a long time. I wouldn't count on it going anywhere anytime soon.


Agreed. There is no precedent for this.

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Father_Jerusalem wrote...

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I can't help with that but i can explain the stargazer, the old guy basically says that there is more to shepards story, and that is shown here


Oh I've seen Stargazer, he fired in my game because I played it with an ME2 import. And all I can is that he's a plot hook, or a coda. It still doesn't mean he's on the same planet as the Normandy crash, and as a bit of exposition at the end of the game, telling you that your story hasn't been forgotten among the galaxy... it's fine. 


I don't get how it applies to what i said. Look near the end of the video, or watch the whole thing it will make it a lot clearer


Oh god, indoctrination theory? No. Sorry. No, that's just crazy. I'm sorry. If you believe BioWare is using indoctrination theory, you have to believe BioWare is trying to actively mind control players and if you believe that... man, I have some tin foil if you need to make a hat....


No just the end where it shows the stargazer part, and i can believe what i want.:devil:
and after watching that video the Indoc theory makes almost perfect sense

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The problem right now is that I don't trust Bioware to make great games. Just decent ones. I won't say I'll never buy a Bioware game again, I will. But I won't be pre-ordering CE's anymore, That means less money for EA.

As for ME3, I won't buy ANY DLC until they do something about the ending. I'd even be satisfied with a patch that fixes a certain scene with the Normandy to make sense.

I'm a core customer, I've been a bioware fanboy since BG1. Bioware was the only company where I would always buy any game they make that was available on my platform (PC right now.)


I'm in the exact same boat. Fan since BG too. I'm really interested to see what EA/BioWare does about it. I doubt I'll ever forget about it, but I will forgive them if they give this epic story the ending it deserves.

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As a whole community I'm not sure. For myself, I am trying to get over it sooner rather than later. It sucks to keep thinking about the horrible ending. I just want to play the eff outta the game, but I can't right now. I'm still so bitter about the ending. A lot of my friends loved the ending and I hate how I am the odd woman out. They look at me like I'm not a true fan or something. I am a fan, it's just that I had higher expectations for such an amazing game.

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the problem is people follow the making of the game then they build up these insane expectations from the developers. Stop following interviews, just wait till the game comes out, I don't follow interviews, I don't really scour the net for any information. I don't feel lied to because I didn't really buy into the marketing

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the problem is people follow the making of the game then they build up these insane expectations from the developers. Stop following interviews, just wait till the game comes out, I don't follow interviews, I don't really scour the net for any information. I don't feel lied to because I didn't really buy into the marketing


oh, so now paying attention is a bad thing too. people were lied to, BW was making the game they could have made it what they said it was but they directly chose not to, so that makes it BW's fault not ours for expecting to much.

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Faust1979 wrote...

the problem is people follow the making of the game then they build up these insane expectations from the developers. Stop following interviews, just wait till the game comes out, I don't follow interviews, I don't really scour the net for any information. I don't feel lied to because I didn't really buy into the marketing


That's not it at all. Bioware may have stated we get 16 different endings, but I'd be happy with one. All those promises they made, are irrelevant to me.

I just want an ending that makes sense. I don't care if Shepard dies ect. I'm not looking for no happy ending. I just want the story closed off right.

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Faust1979 wrote...

the problem is people follow the making of the game then they build up these insane expectations from the developers. Stop following interviews, just wait till the game comes out, I don't follow interviews, I don't really scour the net for any information. I don't feel lied to because I didn't really buy into the marketing


I came here a few days before the release date. I deliberately avoided all info on the game. The ending still sucked.

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slyguy200 wrote...

Faust1979 wrote...

the problem is people follow the making of the game then they build up these insane expectations from the developers. Stop following interviews, just wait till the game comes out, I don't follow interviews, I don't really scour the net for any information. I don't feel lied to because I didn't really buy into the marketing


oh, so now paying attention is a bad thing too. people were lied to, BW was making the game they could have made it what they said it was but they directly chose not to, so that makes it BW's fault not ours for expecting to much.


You weren't lied to! Everything they said, they believed. Just because you had one expectation and reality was different, doesn't mean they lied. Not to mention that ad-speak is, quite simply, not lying.

Are there multiple endings? Yes? Even if they aren't up to YOUR standard? Not a lie.

Do your choices matter? Yes? Even if they aren't up to YOUR standard? Not a lie.

These aren't lies. They just aren't.

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Faust1979 wrote...

the problem is people follow the making of the game then they build up these insane expectations from the developers. Stop following interviews, just wait till the game comes out, I don't follow interviews, I don't really scour the net for any information. I don't feel lied to because I didn't really buy into the marketing



why did you buy this game? (honest question)

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I can Hackett wrote...

Faust1979 wrote...

the problem is people follow the making of the game then they build up these insane expectations from the developers. Stop following interviews, just wait till the game comes out, I don't follow interviews, I don't really scour the net for any information. I don't feel lied to because I didn't really buy into the marketing



why did you buy this game? (honest question)


I know you didn't ask me that question, but I'll answer it anyway.

I bought the game to stop the Reapers and conclude my Shepard's journey. That's it. That's all I wanted, and I got it, so I'm MORE than content.