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[AkiKishi]

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

If somone posts a positive comment about the endings they are immeaditely branded "Bio-drones" and "trolls"

Unless you buy into the rather far fetched "indoctrination" theory there is nothing possitive to say about the endings. They fail on every possible level.

Alright so because you and some other people don't like the ending that means others can't as well?

Well you can like them, but I don't expect many people will take you seriously. If people want to like "bad" stuff, that's their choice but someone trying to paint the endings as good is another matter.

[Overule]

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

Overule wrote...

It'll blow over when they start talking to us like adults.

Maybe they'll start talking to you guys like adults when your "movement" stops acting like children. 

Not all of you but some of you bash and personally attack people if they support Bioware or like the ending.  They have the right to express their opinion on these boards just as much as any of you.

If somone posts a positive comment about the endings they are immeaditely branded "Bio-drones" and "trolls"

Act like adults and you will be treated as such.

It's funny that I keep being told to act my age, because as near as I can tell I've kept a level head and made clear well thought out points since I started talking about this thing.

Seriously, *we're* not the immature ones. We're the ones sitting on our facebook page linking each other to articles on forbes and CNN and discussing if we feel they portrayed us fairly. The opposed movement is the one rushing in screaming profanity and insulting people with no real cause. Also they *keep* calling us the minority and I've only ever seen evidence to the contrary.

Honestly, show me one poll, one webpage, one youtube video that indicates that there's a greater percentage of people who're perfectly happy with the product they got than there are people who aren't. Please, just one. Otherwise I'm gonna have to assume you guys are just blowing smoke >.>

Modifié par Overule, 20 mars 2012 - 08:28 .

[Psychlonus]

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...


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If somone posts a positive comment about the endings they are immeaditely branded "Bio-drones" and "trolls"

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That's because the endings are bad as a matter of objective literary criticism.

[KombatWombat]

Psychlonus wrote...

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...


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If somone posts a positive comment about the endings they are immeaditely branded "Bio-drones" and "trolls"

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That's because the endings are bad as a matter of objective literary criticism.

This. The endings are indefensibly bad. Period. I didn't watch them after I discovered everyone was upset. I thought, "No, can't be that bad, exaggerated, etc." Then I saw them. And here I am.

[Dagr88]

The thing about DA2 is that it's a plot connector.
DA3 will be about mage vs templer war. If there wasn't any DA2 they would have to explain that there was some champion in some city of Kirkwall in Free Marches... and btw it's all his/her fault.
He/She and his/her decisions is an important part of the lore. And how they use this gained lore is yet to see.

But ME3 is the end of the series and leaving ending like that is... well, you know.

[The Razman]

Eh ... I give it two months before all the furor only picks up whenever there's something about Bioware in the press. Then six months them to lie dormant until the announcement of Bioware's next game.

It took about that long for the DA2 furor to die down.

[DaJe]

Many people will just stop caring about Bioware games. Just like the interest for the DA franchise is now at a low, the number of dedicated ME fans will also decrease.

I have seen this with many franchises before that abandon their old fan base. In the end they are left with no notable fan base at all. BW might still have many fans due to a long time good reputation, but just looking at what happened in 1 year, that reputation will not exist much longer.

[Mr.House]

It won't blow over because each day it keeps getting worse. It will only blow over when Bioware either apologized for the ending, admits that they could have done better or they fix it.

[StarcloudSWG]

Bioware can certainly ignore Casey Hudson's ruining the Mass Effect 3 ending and wrecking franchise sales.

And I can certainly ignore Bioware's future games if they do.

Bioware stands to lose a lot of customers and a lot more of the good will they'd earned over the years over the decision to write and implement a complete ending for the game or not.

[ObserverStatus]

Overule wrote...

It'll blow over when they start talking to us like adults.

But if they wait until you start behaving like adults, this might take a good long time to blow over.

[Overule]

Did anyone else find it a little funny that they started making press releases about the Dragon Age franchise not too long ago? I mean they broke the base right open with DA2, and they figure they can reassure people in the wake of ME3's ending with promises about DA3?

If I had been born last Wednesday I might be willing to believe DA3 could live up to the hype. As it stands? Naw.

[Han Shot First]

Overule wrote...

Did anyone else find it a little funny that they started making press releases about the Dragon Age franchise not too long ago? I mean they broke the base right open with DA2, and they figure they can reassure people in the wake of ME3's ending with promises about DA3?

If I had been born last Wednesday I might be willing to believe DA3 could live up to the hype. As it stands? Naw.

As it stands right now DA3 is going to be a used purchase for me.

Preorders require trust. You have trust the company in question to provide a quality product that you are purchasing ahead of time, sight unseen. After DA2 and the ME3's ending debacle, Bioware has squandered that trust. The only thing that could redeem that trust is Bioware proving it is listening to its fanbase by working on DLC that fixes the end content of Mass Effect 3.

[TheBlackBaron]

Dunno. How long does it typically take a spurned lover to go through the five stages of grief?

That's the closest approximation I have to the general reaction and language of the Retake movement. Since everybody's different, it could be anywhere from a week to a few months.

[fobali]

All Bioware has to do is ignore it and it will go away. Doesn't mean they won't lose customers, but the furor will have died down.

Yes. Then again, the next time Bioware releases a game those people who bought the previous Bioware titles partially thanks to the brand will leave the games on shelves. I am serious, dropping the ball this hard will have consequences. Bioware will be defunct as company after the streams from current titles go dry.

[bleetman]

Presumably until the people wanting an alternative ending for whatever reason either give up out of frustration and move onto to other games, or recant and go back to buying Bioware products regardless.

So, I imagine it depends on how long it takes each individual to run out of patience. I'm personally getting there, though that's more to do with being sick to effing death with the fanbase and their circular arguments, petty insults and self-righteous strawmen (on either side) than anything Bioware's doing.

[Dandynermite]

Its not going to go away.

Because we will hold the line.

[Link Ashland 614]

I loved the ending. Hit me then!

As for this to end: If Bioware gives what they want, it'll end when they give it. If not, it won't end, even after an actual Reaper invasion cycle ends.

[Dandynermite]

Logan Cloud wrote...

Disliking the ending? Yeah, I can see that.

Starting a "movement" that makes demands of Bioware because they "deserve it?" Lolno.

Because we deserve it?

Try because we were lied to, decieved, and paid good money for the game, and if we were told it will be "pick one of three colours" to end hundreds of hours of gameplay, we wouldn't have bought it. 

[Juniper Mucius]

I'm not returning Mass Effect 3, but if they do not fix this ending, I will not purchase another BioWare game. Take that as you will, but I'm not like others. I surf the CBR forums and see people always complaining about comic changes, saying they'll drop it. They never do. I, however, have and will drop BioWare from my pull. I'm also not collecting any future comics, unless they somehow fix this ******-poor ending.

[BatmanPWNS]

I'll say like 2 more weeks. I'll find it funny if Bioware say no. The blood rage would be pretty delicious.

[Dandynermite]

Logan Cloud wrote...

Dandynermite wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

Disliking the ending? Yeah, I can see that.

Starting a "movement" that makes demands of Bioware because they "deserve it?" Lolno.

Because we deserve it?

Try because we were lied to, decieved, and paid good money for the game, and if we were told it will be "pick one of three colours" to end hundreds of hours of gameplay, we wouldn't have bought it. 

Right. That's what I said.
Because you feel like you deserve it.

Was I not clear?

Wrong. False advertising is a commercial crime, hence BBB's 'F' and the complaints to FTC.
Nothing to do with feeling like it.