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To Bioware and Gamers! FTL DRIVE, Crucible Attack! And Escaping Joker - MY CALCULATIONS and Opinion about ending.


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michal9o90

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@InfiniteDemise same i said few post UP, but using other words.

brian_breed wrote...

As best as I can tell, math doesn't
exist in the universes of hard science fiction. It is a primitive
concept to which only early humans subscribed.


Not agree, and i write why before, try find xD

Ok in short ....... First even Bioware tried to do ME using real physics at least they tried :bandit: and second we can't approve all what they create, because then in future will be a hell worse things. Like changing head hero in tomato, and then pikachu show up, eat tamto, and sh*t up book calling magic can everything in game.

Modifié par michal9o90, 21 mars 2012 - 02:12 .


#102
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InfiniteDemise wrote...
Magically creating circuit boards in every living thing in the galaxy is "scientifically more friendly" than reparing cell damage and restarting biological processes?

Huh.


Duh.

#103
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michal9o90 -- This is mindblowingly good. Thanks for taking the time to dot his.

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brian_breed wrote...

InfiniteDemise wrote...
Magically creating circuit boards in every living thing in the galaxy is "scientifically more friendly" than reparing cell damage and restarting biological processes?

Huh.


Duh.

Except a large portion of our populations are in ships right now fighting the reapers and being kept alive by circuits that control gravity/air controls :devil: time for a slaughter

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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lvrdeSSsxo That is all :P

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michal9o90

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@LadyVakarian HAHAHA strange, some people already said that hahahahah.

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I hadn't done the calculations (thanks OP) but some basic logic says that the Normandy would have had to leave pretty early in order to hit the relay and then be hit with the wave considering the wave was moving faster.

I get the feeling we were supposed to get wrapped up in the moment and not over-think this. But considering what we were seeing made no sense in terms of the battle and Joker's character, we have no choice but to think about it.

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There's only one problem with all of this. Unless somehow Joker is pushed into an alternate dimension to do the travelling, everyone inside the Normandy would be crushed just like the ship. Please tell me how much acceleration do you need to achieve FTL speeds in 1 second. Your calculations assume that he travelled all the same speed the whole way. I call BS.

By the way, some one in twitter from BW implied that Joker never got to the relay. But escaping at FTL speeds would put you in Proxima Centauri in a few hours. So maybe he is there.

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i took alot of naps in math class...

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michal9o90 wrote...

And there is one more thing, Where is the time for rescue a squad members which were running with me to this Blue Light, and they were hit by Reapers. They learn teleport? Or Joker learn how to hold time?

This.

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who gave this dude a redbull. i'm sorry, I'm not the smartest guy in the world, I'm a dj....but thats probably the most insane thing I have ever read, but the BEST argument for a better ending. So much work put into that. Hold the line brother.

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Lugaidster wrote...

There's only one problem with all of this. Unless somehow Joker is pushed into an alternate dimension to do the travelling, everyone inside the Normandy would be crushed just like the ship. Please tell me how much acceleration do you need to achieve FTL speeds in 1 second. Your calculations assume that he travelled all the same speed the whole way. I call BS.


Well excatly, he needed to be in FTL all the time. And this is impossible, becasue with all fleet he fight with reapers.

Lugaidster wrote...

By the way, some one in twitter from BW implied that Joker never got
to the relay. But escaping at FTL speeds would put you in Proxima
Centauri in a few hours. So maybe he is there.


And I put this in my post too. If that was simple escaping with using only FTL speed, he cant reach new planet. because in a few seconds that wave from crucible catch him and normandy would be destroyed. Besides like i said he never can achieve FTL speed before this wave catch him.

He has to be in FTL speed long time ago, what is impossible. BECAUSE he was a sword of atack and main base, and even he need time for rescue our squad members from earth, what is impossible again, because he won't never get to this blue light, becasue reapers were there and normandy could be destroyed in a second if he stopped there.

And this is closed circle, we can again and again saying impossible.

Esternogligen wrote...

michal9o90 wrote...

And
there is one more thing, Where is the time for rescue a squad members
which were running with me to this Blue Light, and they were hit by
Reapers. They learn teleport? Or Joker learn how to hold time?

This.


Haha yeah this is my famous part.

Modifié par michal9o90, 21 mars 2012 - 07:24 .


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FTL was used in systems to fight the Reapers. Look at the Turian stuff.

But yeah, space magic.

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Axialbloom wrote...

FTL was used in systems to fight the Reapers. Look at the Turian stuff.

But yeah, space magic.


Yeah and after this you will see other world. So, how normandy is still with us?  ahhhhh right again SPACE MAGIC :wizard:

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Next your gonna be telling me its crazy to build synthetics to kill you to keep you from building synthetics to kill you.

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Isichar wrote...

Next your gonna be telling me its crazy to build synthetics to kill you to keep you from building synthetics to kill you.


I suppose that was sarcasm?  

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michal9o90 wrote...

Isichar wrote...

Next your gonna be telling me its crazy to build synthetics to kill you to keep you from building synthetics to kill you.


I suppose that was sarcasm?  


Its :wizard: my good sir

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Nice work!

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I'm stunned. Great job!

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Isichar wrote...

michal9o90 wrote...

Isichar wrote...

Next your gonna be telling me its crazy to build synthetics to kill you to keep you from building synthetics to kill you.


I suppose that was sarcasm?  


Its :wizard: my good sir


Ahhh right.... why i did not think of it before in game which base most part on a lot of real physics. And all this stuff in lexicon, why the hell bioware did't call it Book of Magic.

Modifié par michal9o90, 21 mars 2012 - 07:33 .


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+1

Math + logic = yes the ending was still bad. Thanks for posting this; Hold the line.

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I'm curious where the "12ly in 24 hours" figure came from. The map interaction isn't exactly to scale or presented in real time. You're also neglecting acceleration and deceleration. I believe the game said that if a ship suddenly comes to a full stop from FTL, the kinetic energy would be bled off as lethal radiation.

I'm afraid you're going to need some substantial calculus to come up with real figures.

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I'm much more adept in linguistics than math, but even I could tell that something was a bit fishy. Excellent work in ironing out the details, OP.

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michal9o90 wrote...

Lugaidster wrote...

There's only one problem with all of this. Unless somehow Joker is pushed into an alternate dimension to do the travelling, everyone inside the Normandy would be crushed just like the ship. Please tell me how much acceleration do you need to achieve FTL speeds in 1 second. Your calculations assume that he travelled all the same speed the whole way. I call BS.


Well excatly, he needed to be in FTL all the time. And this is impossible, becasue with all fleet he fight with reapers.

Lugaidster wrote...

By the way, some one in twitter from BW implied that Joker never got
to the relay. But escaping at FTL speeds would put you in Proxima
Centauri in a few hours. So maybe he is there.


And I put this in my post too. If that was simple escaping with using only FTL speed, he cant reach new planet. because in a few seconds that wave from crucible catch him and normandy would be destroyed. Besides like i said he never can achieve FTL speed before this wave catch him.

He has to be in FTL speed long time ago, what is impossible. BECAUSE he was a sword of atack and main base, and even he need time for rescue our squad members from earth, what is impossible again, because he won't never get to this blue light, becasue reapers were there and normandy could be destroyed in a second if he stopped there.

And this is closed circle, we can again and again saying impossible.

Esternogligen wrote...

michal9o90 wrote...

And
there is one more thing, Where is the time for rescue a squad members
which were running with me to this Blue Light, and they were hit by
Reapers. They learn teleport? Or Joker learn how to hold time?

This.


Haha yeah this is my famous part.


The thing about empty space is that you don't need thrust to maintain speed. With the engines blown up, he just has to wait to be caught by the gravitational field of something. Even if he achieved FTL speed and immediatly after that his engines were destroyed, he only needs to crash land onto something that attracts him to it. He could still be in Proxima Centauri, or anywhere near there in any other star of the Centaurus constellation.

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eddieoctane wrote...

I'm curious where the "12ly in 24 hours" figure came from. That was said in game if i good remember in lexicon.
I'm afraid you're going to need some substantial calculus to come up with real figures.


http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/FTL read this With a mass effect drive, roughly a dozen light-years can be traversed in the course of a day's cruise.
Besides i think i read this in lexicon but it never mind this simple sentence is prove that i can use 12 years.