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[michal9o90]

Lugaidster wrote...

The thing about empty space is that you don't need thrust to maintain speed. With the engines blown up, he just has to wait to be caught by the gravitational field of something. Even if he achieved FTL speed and immediatly after that his engines were destroyed, he only needs to crash land onto something that attracts him to it. He could still be in Proxima Centauri, or anywhere near there in any other star of the Centaurus constellation.

Bull sh*t you know why? because after destroying engine (not to mention that ship will explode in huge big bang ) then normandy cant be still inFTL speed. And because i prove the wave will catch him in a few seconds so he cant even reach centaurus constellation. Well  maybe if normandy drifted so maybe after thousands of years with no food on normandy

Modifié par michal9o90, 21 mars 2012 - 07:59 .

[Honadz]

 ok the only way i can see Joker making it out 

1) 

2)

3) picked up crew and made jump due to orders from fleet saying they needed to reinforce another system while shep was unconscious

with all the holes in the ending as a whole it has to be 1 or 2

[Giguelingueling]

Normandy wasn't in ftl it was using the mass relay. The nearest star would take something like 3-4 hours to reach if the normandy could go at 30 LY/day 

[michal9o90]

Giguelingueling wrote...

Normandy wasn't in ftl it was using the mass relay. The nearest star would take something like 3-4 hours to reach if the normandy could go at 30 LY/day 

Well i took all possibilities.

And also i prove joker can't reach Mass Relay, because i even didn't mentioned it you can't use FTL in solar system, becasue there is asteroitds, planet with gravity ect ect.

[michal9o90]

michal9o90 wrote...

Giguelingueling wrote...

Normandy wasn't in ftl it was using the mass relay. The nearest star would take something like 3-4 hours to reach if the normandy could go at 30 LY/day 

Well i took more possibilities.

And also i prove joker can't reach Mass Relay, because i even didn't mentioned it you can't use FTL in solar system, becasue there is asteroitds, planet with gravity ect ect.

[soull2]

This was fascinating. Good work on the math and your English.

[michal9o90]

soull2 wrote...

This was fascinating. Good work on the math and your English.

hmmmm thanks, but it took some time for calculated and wrote it. My english is still low lvl, and i need much time to write this. Maybe because i don't have enough experience in using english.

Modifié par michal9o90, 21 mars 2012 - 09:10 .

[rinoe]

Yeah, there is a lot of magic in the end, and nothing but...

The match is simple. Great work to point that out:) Demand reasoning is very good:)

We all know there is no flames in space and more like implosions than explosians, no sound. This is obvious ( to almost everyone?).
What is worst - why do we need that lexicon all over - to get that crap in the end?

I could even not look at that side, it stupid, but there is a lot of that kind of nonsense in movies and games (explosions always looks better:) - but:
WHY SHEPARD MUST FACE DOUBLE TREACHERY IN THE END?
First one - left alone near beam of light (companions left to Normandy)
Second one - Normandy runnig from fight...
THIS is totally ubelievable.

@michal9o90 has right - there is no way Joker will run....

[michal9o90]

rinoe wrote...

Yeah, there is a lot of magic in the end, and nothing but...

The match is simple. Great work to point that out:) Demand reasoning is very good:)

Thanks

rinoe wrote...
We all know there is no flames in space and more like implosions than explosians, no sound. This is obvious ( to almost everyone?).
What is worst - why do we need that lexicon all over - to get that crap in the end?

This is good question and the best conclusion which i want push on gamers.

rinoe wrote...
I could even not look at that side, it stupid, but there is a lot of that kind of nonsense in movies and games (explosions always looks better:) - but:
WHY SHEPARD MUST FACE DOUBLE TREACHERY IN THE END?
First one - left alone near beam of light (companions left to Normandy)
Second one - Normandy runnig from fight...
THIS is totally ubelievable.

@michal9o90 has right - there is no way Joker will run....

Well maybe Joker afterall is big coward/polecat ect.

[Lugaidster]

michal9o90 wrote...

Lugaidster wrote...

The thing about empty space is that you don't need thrust to maintain speed. With the engines blown up, he just has to wait to be caught by the gravitational field of something. Even if he achieved FTL speed and immediatly after that his engines were destroyed, he only needs to crash land onto something that attracts him to it. He could still be in Proxima Centauri, or anywhere near there in any other star of the Centaurus constellation.

Bull sh*t you know why? because after destroying engine (not to mention that ship will explode in huge big bang ) then normandy cant be still inFTL speed. And because i prove the wave will catch him in a few seconds so he cant even reach centaurus constellation. Well  maybe if normandy drifted so maybe after thousands of years with no food on normandy

BS Why? No drag in space to slow down the ship. If anything, the explosion gives it more momentum. o_O

[Redbelle]

The explosion may have acted as wind in a sail, but the Normandy doesn't have a structure on it's hull to act in that capacity. Regarding FTL speed, if the ME adheres to the laws of physics of our universe than Light speed is the maximum speed Normandy can achieve without the FTL engines. When the engines go down and/or what ever allowed Normandy to break that threshold stops being in effect then Normandy would be forced back to the speed of light at extreme levels of deceleration. It would be like traveling from the air and then slamming into a body of water.

I need to check the codex on whether the Mass effect field of the Tauntilus core Normandy sits in would prevent the deceleration if the engines were destroyed.

[rizengrad]

For science!

[Greyze2k]

Brilliant.

[MrFob]

Yeah nice but to be fair, if you apply solid math to the simplest concepts of the ME universe, it falls apart way before the ending of ME3.

[SogaBan]

Wave CANNOT travel FTL. Why?

Because all 'wave's are electro-magnetic radiation (except the sound waves and water waves.. lol), so that makes thing a bit possible.

Nevertheless, as the shockwave (or the wave, as you call it) surrounds the Normandy during her escape, probably the ship was coming out of its FTL and that's the reason why it nearly engulfed the Normandy.

However, nice work done there. And well... even then the ending is a shi**y crap!

[P47 ace]

Totally agree great job, I would not have had the drive to figure all that out.

But what makes the wave catch up to the Normandy even in a Relay tunnel is the codex all FTL fight have two differant steps 1/2 acceleration 1/2 decceleration

You can se that the normandy is out running the wave but then it apears that the wave speeds up, but it is actually the nomandy slowing down to come out of the relay jump.

Joker would have to get a head start of at lest you making it to the beam of light to even make it to the relay. In time for a jump knowing that he can't use FTL in system. And their is no way joker would leave the fight, or even if he did the rest of the crew would stop him, EDI still has control of the ship and would not leave, and Hackett in no way would order joker to leave.

[charredrex]

Very nice work on the calculations. Really brings things in line with what could be expected out of a ships FTL when we're not actually zipping around in game and can think about it.

[michal9o90]

Lugaidster wrote...

BS Why? No drag in space to slow down the ship. If anything, the explosion gives it more momentum. o_O

Well like said @Redbelle, you can't faster fly than speed of lifght without engine working, only FTL can be reaches with working engine, so when engine is destroyed FTL is automatically inactive, and Normandy would be forced back to the speed of light at extreme levels of deceleration as said redbelle. You will never reach the new planet as i prove it in first post.

[michal9o90]

SogaBan wrote...

Wave CANNOT travel FTL. Why?

Because all 'wave's are electro-magnetic radiation (except the sound waves and water waves.. lol), so that makes thing a bit possible.

Nevertheless, as the shockwave (or the wave, as you call it) surrounds the Normandy during her escape, probably the ship was coming out of its FTL and that's the reason why it nearly engulfed the Normandy.

However, nice work done there. And well... even then the ending is a shi**y crap!

You  think wrong, Normandy is coming out of FTL BECAUSE this wave/shockwaves catching up with joker, and beings to destroying normandy.

[Chris20M]

SR-1 is slower than SR-2

[michal9o90]

P47 ace wrote...

You can se that the normandy is out running the wave but then it apears that the wave speeds up, but it is actually the nomandy slowing down to come out of the relay jump.

Joker would have to get a head start of at lest you making it to the beam of light to even make it to the relay. In time for a jump knowing that he can't use FTL in system. And their is no way joker would leave the fight, or even if he did the rest of the crew would stop him, EDI still has control of the ship and would not leave, and Hackett in no way would order joker to leave.

I agree in all the way, but some people said maybe he is coward and just run, then i want give prove  that even if so, he will never reach new planet, to prove it in all the way that this Ending is impossible to make for real, and BW HAVE TO CHANGE ENDING!!

Modifié par michal9o90, 21 mars 2012 - 01:57 .

[Redbelle]

Redbelle wrote...

The explosion may have acted as wind in a sail, but the Normandy doesn't have a structure on it's hull to act in that capacity. Regarding FTL speed, if the ME adheres to the laws of physics of our universe than Light speed is the maximum speed Normandy can achieve without the FTL engines. When the engines go down and/or what ever allowed Normandy to break that threshold stops being in effect then Normandy would be forced back to the speed of light at extreme levels of deceleration. It would be like traveling from the air and then slamming into a body of water.

I need to check the codex on whether the Mass effect field of the Tauntilus core Normandy sits in would prevent the deceleration if the engines were destroyed.

I may have goofed because the Norandy does have one aspect that give it the 'Sail' The bottom and top of it's hull. If the wave pushed normandy on it's tail  or it's cockpit area then the upper hull/lower hull will provide the surface area needed to catch the wave..... hehe, surfing the normandy..... that crazy joker.

Modifié par Redbelle, 21 mars 2012 - 02:04 .

[michal9o90]

Redbelle pls man, no more joking xD Surfing normandy? My God Besides this wave have only one effect, green synthesis, red destroying AI, and blue? Omg blue shouldn't even affect on normandy. Why the hell in blue and green ending noramndy crash? This two waves Shouldn't that bad affect on normandy.

Just forgot about this all stuff, because this is even much stupid than what i took to my calculations in first post.

Modifié par michal9o90, 21 mars 2012 - 02:20 .

[billyzero]

You can't make sense of the completely un-sensible.

You know what destroys your incredible (and very good) theory?

Goffenturdenvillesteinshipstenfenn.

That's basically Bioware's response to you. Disprove it.

[galaxidj]

I always loved math ^^
Nice work here!