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[Sharkey1337]

Fail_Inc wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

nevar00 wrote...

I can't wait until PAX, it's going to be interesting... that's for sure. I think I might even go dressed up as Mass Effect 3's ending.

What's that? A strait jacket?

3 colored outfit, colors start from his ass maybe?

Don't forget to tear some holes in it as well, can't leave out the plot holes!

[Grasich]

Ya, this is just a misunderstanding. They're saying they are receiving feedback from people who like the ending, who also don't want it to be changed.

[Myrmedus]

SmokePants wrote...

Vromrig wrote...

Question:

If so passionate, how much have pro-ending raised for charity?

Likely 0.

I've probably given more to charity this year than you have. Just not that charity.

By bringing that up, you are cheapening the involvement of Child's Play. You are making it clear that you did it for political leverage and not out of the goodness of your heart.

You think Child's Play give a crap?

Besides, again, I'm still wondering how you can argue against the possibility of adding additional endings and how this impacts upon your shiny current endings in any way?

In short, why are you here arguing?

[xeNNN]

i just checked there twitter page i think they removed the tweet the OP posted..

another false judgement perhaps?

[Vromrig]

I've probably given more to charity this year than you have. Just not that charity.

By bringing that up, you are cheapening the involvement of Child's Play. You are making it clear that you did it for political leverage and not out of the goodness of your heart.

Incorrect. Is valid question. If equally passionate, why is one going so far as to act upon conviction? "Put money where mouth is", so to speak. If equally passionate, would be equally visible, equally eager to put money where mouth is.

Point is not politics.  Instead, point is one of equivalence.  Bioware hoping to make equivalence between two.

Further, should have been obvious, CHild's Play was not about conventional donations to charity.  Was about making message, only message.  Of course political.  Not even Machiavellian, was meant to demonstrate outrage and anger, not sudden affliction of hospitality and good will towards children.

Modifié par Vromrig, 20 mars 2012 - 10:45 .

[Narsilsword]

IF Bioware turns their back on us they turn their back on Mass Effect!

To ignore the flaws of the ending requires that you are:
1)Not heavily invested in the franchise
2)Didn't give it much thought. in other words you treated it superficially like you would a summer action movie.
3)don't really care, in which case you shouldn't mind a change
4) Beleive that covering up mistakes goes against some moral code (the ludicrous art argument)

We are the people who saw the ending did mass effect a huge disservice. It undoes the franchise!
To listen to those who praise it rather than those who took the time to properly explain the flaws is denial.
They don't want to hear it so they'll continue to make the same mistakes. Bioware won't grow if it doesn't listen

I'm not saying write what the fans want, I am saying go back and fix it. It's broken!

Hold the line!

[Myrmedus]

You know what makes me laugh? Every poorly worded post that says they dislike the ending they respond with sarcasm: "Thank you for putting it so eloquently."

Every poorly worded post that says they like the ending they respond with: "Glad you liked it!"

Yeah, no bias there, of course.

Modifié par Myrmedus, 20 mars 2012 - 10:45 .

[GoblinSapper]

My disgust grows. Physical contact with linear construct remains, probability of actually buying another Bioware product even if this all gets resolved reducing.

It's almost not even about the ending anymore.It's about being insulted and marginalized

[SmokePants]

Myrmedus wrote...

SmokePants wrote...

They can't change the ending. The fact that you people believe it's even a possibility is proof of your broken sensibilities.

I don't care how many people ask me to do something; if I don't believe them capable of giving useful direction, I will ignore them.

And what about adding new endings? How exactly does that negatively impair the current ones?

You don't see how adding a "Win" alternative would completely invalidate the existing choices?

Broken sensibilities.

Modifié par SmokePants, 20 mars 2012 - 10:46 .

[KroganShields]

sorentoft wrote...

BWGungan wrote...

KroganShields wrote...

Vromrig wrote...

I loved the ending. Don't think your opinions is a consensus. Merely a vocal minority on internet forums.

Used to fill same as role, other titles. Antagonist, verbally demeaning people in defense of company. Felt intellectually superior. Somewhat like Hipster.

Reality: vocal minority speaks for the sincere majority. Also, obvious you don't care for ending. Simply want to make point. Point isn't legitimate. Would rather see game end in failure then be on side of people not in favor of Bioware.

It's okay, everyone has their flaws. You'll grow out of it some day.

Mo-.. Mordin?

I could have sworn he died...

We do not die.

I think we need a yellow space magic ending who only resurrects Mordin. A much happier and without plot-holes ending. Don't you agree? Because, you know. Space magic. Yellow.

[TheLostGenius]

I DONT WANT THE ENDING TO CHANGE! Do you guys realize that most people that liked it or loved it aren't even WRITING in these threads? Don't delude yourselves, people have differing opinions than yours.

[DannieCraft]

 Respect people's opinions. There are plenty those who ARE happy with the current ending, but then there are even plenty more who currently are unhappy with the endings. Fact is that BioWare IS getting feedback from both sides.

Simple solution is a DLC with further ending content. It is optional for all those who would like it, pleasing all.

[Lanay]

Terraforming2154 wrote...

totalrecall87 wrote...

This is a PR tatic ment to belittle the movement and possibly try to get a rise out of the members. Don't play into it! Stay Strong Stay Civil Hold the line!

But why would they want to do that? I'm very obviously showing my colors as a very naive librarian and not a business person because I just don't get why they would want to insult, belittle, or hurt a legimately devoted part of their fan base that is upset.

They don't want to hurt us, not maliciously anyway.  They want to get us to give up, stop talking about it, and forget it happened.  The best way to do that is to kill our resolve and convince us that this is a matter of creative differences and taste, not promises broken and a product intentionally misrepresented.

[Star fury]

plenty of feedback from people who love the ending and consider the thought of changing it an affront, as well.

All 3 % out of 100 %?

I want an official poll from Bioware - do you like endings of Mass Effect 3?

[Skyblade012]

SmokePants wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

SmokePants wrote...

They can't change the ending. The fact that you people believe it's even a possibility is proof of your broken sensibilities.

I don't care how many people ask me to do something; if I don't believe them capable of giving useful direction, I will ignore them.

And what about adding new endings? How exactly does that negatively impair the current ones?

You don't see how adding a "Win" alternative would completely invalidate the existing endings?

Broken sensibilities.

How about just a coherent, sensible, thematically fitting one?

Sure, it would invalidate the existing ones in that they would still be crap while it wouldn't, but they could still be there for those who want them.

[Vromrig]

You don't see how adding a "Win" alternative would completely invalidate the existing endings?

Broken sensibilities.

Players not asking for alternative. Asking for continuation to real ending. Asking for current "ending" to exist, as well as content after what is clearly not the conclusion to story.

[KroganShields]

Star fury wrote...

plenty of feedback from people who love the ending and consider the thought of changing it an affront, as well.

All 3 % out of 100 %?

I want an official poll from Bioware - do you like endings of Mass Effect 3?

They had one on Facebook and they have deleted it. You can guess why.

[Nykara]

I am right there with them. The ending does NOT need to be 'changed'. We, along with Shepard were indoctrinated - There is more post-ending content coming though. This was planed all along. Maybe not the extent in which the fans are in uproar over the 'ending' but the rest? Yep.

[SamFlagg]

People who like the ending = People who exist

People who don't understand why others would want a different ending = People who exist

People who think its an affront to change the ending and go on social media to actively resist it changing in DLC that they wouldn't be required to get = Trolling.

[Lanay]

TheLostGenius wrote...

I DONT WANT THE ENDING TO CHANGE! Do you guys realize that most people that liked it or loved it aren't even WRITING in these threads? Don't delude yourselves, people have differing opinions than yours.

That's great.  You don't have to get any DLC at all!  Aren't you happy?

Anyway, just because people aren't talking doesn't mean you can assume their opinion.  All you know about them is that they don't think it's worth their time to go online and talk about video games.  They may have hated it, they may have loved it, either way, you don't get to appropriate their vote for your own opinion.  Neither do we.  The best we can do is assume their percentages are roughly similar to our own.

[Valo_Soren]

TheLostGenius wrote...

I DONT WANT THE ENDING TO CHANGE! Do you guys realize that most people that liked it or loved it aren't even WRITING in these threads? Don't delude yourselves, people have differing opinions than yours.

Exactly, because the people that love it, don't have anything to complain about.

[Icesong]

SmokePants wrote...


They can't change the ending. The fact that you people believe it's even a possibility is proof of your broken sensibilities.

I
don't care how many people ask me to do something; if I don't believe
them capable of giving useful direction, I will ignore them.

If it's not a possibility how come it's been done before?

Modifié par Icesong, 20 mars 2012 - 10:50 .

[Grasich]

TheLostGenius wrote...

I DONT WANT THE ENDING TO CHANGE! Do you guys realize that most people that liked it or loved it aren't even WRITING in these threads? Don't delude yourselves, people have differing opinions than yours.

We appreciate your feedback.

[Myrmedus]

SmokePants wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

SmokePants wrote...

They can't change the ending. The fact that you people believe it's even a possibility is proof of your broken sensibilities.

I don't care how many people ask me to do something; if I don't believe them capable of giving useful direction, I will ignore them.

And what about adding new endings? How exactly does that negatively impair the current ones?

You don't see how adding a "Win" alternative would completely invalidate the existing endings?

Broken sensibilities.

Who said anything about "Win" option? I'm talking about additional options that makes sense to the rest of us. It is also not a DLC you are REQUIRED to get.

In addition, one could argue the "Win" option is already there with the "Destroy" option. Sure, it's a poorly presented, plot-hole ridden, rubbishy version of "Win"...but it's still "Win".

And besides, if a "Win" option invalidates existing endings that would suggest you can't like the existing endings as much as you profess since the option to "Win" should be abhorrent to you if you like the existing endings so.

Analogy: at the end of Green Mile, John Coffey dies. If they added an optional Disc 2 where he doesn't, but you liked the ending as is, which ending would you continue to go with? I would continue to go with his death, the additional content would make no difference.

I would also argue that your complaints, without any attempt at a compromise, are amazingly selfish: to hell with the hordes of fans distress by the endings, who could be happy too, as long as I'm happy in my little hole who gives a **** about anyone else?

Modifié par Myrmedus, 20 mars 2012 - 10:50 .

[lokiarchetype]

SmokePants wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

SmokePants wrote...

They can't change the ending. The fact that you people believe it's even a possibility is proof of your broken sensibilities.

I don't care how many people ask me to do something; if I don't believe them capable of giving useful direction, I will ignore them.

And what about adding new endings? How exactly does that negatively impair the current ones?

You don't see how adding a "Win" alternative would completely invalidate the existing choices?

Broken sensibilities.

I don't see how adding new endings, regardless of content, would alter how much you enjoyed the orginal endings

Unless you're just worried they'd be better and you'd want them instead, in which case, you seem to be on the wrong side of the fence.