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[Porfirmir]

Boy. Their PR guys just love digging holes for themselves, don't they? Even if they are receiving some support from a certain segment of their fans, they should think twice before further antagonizing what is already an angry mob. That's just terrible PR, in my opinion.

[Terraforming2154]

Well it was an affront to many that they released the game with the current endings.
So what, is this issue of the endings just going to be completely stonewalled now?

[crimsontotem]

someone tweet jessica about this wtf are they willing to lose more than 50k people for those 1k people who does not see the big picture for this companie's future?

[Nassegris]

I feel like I give up on them several times every day, yet wake up every morning with a faint hope that maybe something will change today.

Just that the faint, faint hope is getting weaker.

[BWGungan]

Darthlawsuit wrote...

Who uses twitter? Little kids and bored people with smart phones that consider angry birds a 5/5 game.

Sounds like the people that like the ending... because they don't understand why it is bad.

[SuperZombieChow]

BWGungan wrote...

TheLostGenius wrote...

I loved the ending. Don't think your opinions is a consensus. Merely a vocal minority on internet forums.

Then you have terrible taste.  Let me guess, you like Jershey Shore too?

This attitude helps no-one.

As part of the movement, we cannot definitively prove that we are the majority. We are the majority on the forums for sure, and we have enough pull to drive down the reviews of the game on amazon, but we are not a pure random sample and thus we can only definitively say that there are approximately 70k people who absolutely hate the ending.

But let's think about that for a second. That's $700,000 Bioware will miss out on every DLC they release for the game. Thats $4,200,000 off of every game Bioware releases from here on out. While not all the "true fans" are pissed off, most of the people who are pissed off could be called "true fans". A core group who could be counted on to buy every peice of DLC and who actively told their friends that Bioware represented the best in game developers. We were the constituents who always voted with their party, the shopper who went out of his way to avoid Wal Mart and go to his local store, the guys who could be counted on day in and day out for support. Ending DLC that would help make us happy consumers again (along with a potentially significant portion of the currently silent majority) seems like a no-brainer investment.

[Ritva]

So you know what you do, Bioware? You add other OPTIONS, or a DLC that expands it (such as something along the lines of the indoctrination theory). That way the people who like the ending get to keep it, and the people who hated it get to have something they enjoy.

Right now, only the people who liked the ending have something they enjoy. Look at the huge number of people who are unhappy. Are you really just going to leave them like that?

[Valo_Soren]

Changing the ending would indeed be an affront, keep your artistic integrity Bioware, don't let this vocal minority drag you down.

[clarkusdarkus]

there twitter feed would suggest otherwise, hold the line and dont believe the pr crap.....slowly but surely we'll get there.

[totalrecall87]

Something about that statement doesn't seem right. It differs from thr "thank you for your feedback" statement..... i'd check the validity of that statement

[The Angry One]

Terraforming2154 wrote...

Well it was an affront to many that they released the game with the current endings.
So what, is this issue of the endings just going to be completely stonewalled now?

I knew this would happen. BioWare wanted to wait for the white knights and the arthouse crowd to surface so they can point to them and say "See? Nothing wrong with the endings, you're all just a bunch of philestines."

[Yokokorama]

They DO realize they don't have to CHANGE the endings, right? They can simply add several endings to appeal to us (the Retake ME people) while keeping the old endings that other people liked.

That being said, I think its hilarious how the isolated incidents of people actually liking the ending made it to the Twitter account, yet the scores (literally THOUSANDS) of people who hated the ending are being downplayed to make it sound like they're outnumbered.

[Element Zero]

Fix the damn game, or lose your core, tried and true fan base, period. It's that simple. You've been losing us for several years. Make it right, or many are done for good.

[Strange Aeons]

Apparently that sound I heard was the point zooming past Bioware at supersonic speed.

Regardless of how much of a minority you speculate the Retake movement represents, there's still the problem of 50,000 or so irate fans banding together to vocally condemn their game. The widespread coverage this phenomenon has received in the mainstream press indicates that it's being heard. That's enough to make any company uneasy, and I don't think smiley-face PR boilerplate like this is likely to solve the problem.

[2484Stryker]

Here's my take on this. There is no way that enough of the 3 million odd people who bought ME3 is going to give you their opinion on the ending for anyone to claim that the majority hated it. In fact, for every game out there, there are probably a large number of people who simply played it and forgot about it.

What I'm trying to say is that you will only get a small percentage of people who care enough about the game that they're playing that they're willing to go online and talk about it in forums or to vote in polls. And if I'm EA/Bioware and I find that the majority of this small group of people who cares about the game is telling me that there is something wrong, then you bet darn sure that I'm going to pay attention to it, and not try implying that it's only a small group and that it doesn't mean anything.

Modifié par 2484Stryker, 20 mars 2012 - 10:14 .

[Arokel]

SuperZombieChow wrote...

BWGungan wrote...

TheLostGenius wrote...

I loved the ending. Don't think your opinions is a consensus. Merely a vocal minority on internet forums.

Then you have terrible taste.  Let me guess, you like Jershey Shore too?

This attitude helps no-one.

As part of the movement, we cannot definitively prove that we are the majority. We are the majority on the forums for sure, and we have enough pull to drive down the reviews of the game on amazon, but we are not a pure random sample and thus we can only definitively say that there are approximately 70k people who absolutely hate the ending.

But let's think about that for a second. That's $700,000 Bioware will miss out on every DLC they release for the game. Thats $4,200,000 off of every game Bioware releases from here on out. While not all the "true fans" are pissed off, most of the people who are pissed off could be called "true fans". A core group who could be counted on to buy every peice of DLC and who actively told their friends that Bioware represented the best in game developers. We were the constituents who always voted with their party, the shopper who went out of his way to avoid Wal Mart and go to his local store, the guys who could be counted on day in and day out for support. Ending DLC that would help make us happy consumers again (along with a potentially significant portion of the currently silent majority) seems like a no-brainer investment.

and even if 50% of us go onto buy other BioWare stuff it will still hurt them

[JamesYHT]

EA and ING have a lot of employees....

[ramenbito]

Huyna wrote...

ramenbito wrote...

Bioware really? there 57 k people who hate the ending.

It's just one man under 57k different accounts.
Yup.

Or just one man who writes everywhere that the end of the end of the game is brilliant.

Modifié par ramenbito, 20 mars 2012 - 10:16 .

[Terraforming2154]

Nassegris wrote...

I feel like I give up on them several times every day, yet wake up every morning with a faint hope that maybe something will change today.

Just that the faint, faint hope is getting weaker.

Same here, unfortunately. People keep telling me I should return the game if I am so unhappy with the endings, but I can't do it. I still have hope in this company. Not really sure why at the moment, but I do..

[starscreamerx31]

Hmmmmmmmm i dunno but if they dont announce something on pax im giving up on bioware for good and burning my n7 collectors edition while im at it:(

[Nizzemancer]

User11!11eleven: Change the ending!
someone2342: Change the ending!
WT*BBQSauce: Change the ending!
someguy: The ending is fine, I don't care but don't change it.
Wrecks5362sauce: Change the ending!
somegirl: The ending is ok.
Garruz314relay: OMG change the ending it's an affront to everthing!

Bioware/EA: Hmmm...someguy and somegirl likes it...let me just sprouce that up like sooo and...viola!

[KingG528]

Is it really that difficult to throw in a few more options for the ending? If people want the original then let them have em.

[atheimetal]

I don't see a group of 50k people called, "The Mass Effect 3 ending is great and perfect"

I also have yet to see an argument that justifies the way the game ends that is reasonable. Some of them were quite well written and articulate, but not moving or convincing. The only thing you can use to justify the end is the indoctrination theory and that is also pretty outrageous and only raises more questions then it actually answers.

[leianajade]

I'd like to chime in to say STAY CALM.

The movement is really just getting started. Stay vocal, stay present, but stay calm.

[Jaraldur]

Lots of speculation from everyone!

Hold the line!