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Why don't some people want to believe shep is indoctrinated?


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Because my Shepard's too strong to let herself become indoctrinated.

Also because it would come from absolutely no where. No hints or lead up or anything, just suddenly "Shep's indoctrinated". Shepard's death on the other hand was actually hinted at many times during the game.

Do I want Shepard to die? Of course not. It makes a lot more sense to the story though then a sudden onset of mind control.

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Paragon Auducan wrote...

And yet I have still to hear a SINGLE argument as to why Shepard wakes up on Earth in the destruction ending that makes any sense whatsoever.


Have you considered it's just supposed to be the wreckage of the citadel? It's only your assumption that it's earth.

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I don't want the indoctrination theory to be real because indoctrinated people become thralls then die within weeks.


Over sooooo many years my guess is the natrual evolution of the universe is coming. One in which it is becoming harder and harder to indoctrinate each species ( survival mechanism ) to the point where one day they will be completely immune to it. Maybe Shepard is the first step in that.

Its also stated that depending on how long the indoctrination takes, how slowly it is done the 'thrall' can live for years before becoming that mindless husk. Its in the codex IIRC.

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I don't believe in fanfiction.

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also you can look up cosmology, thats what they shot for, they even said that somewhere.

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Paragon Auducan wrote...

And yet I have still to hear a SINGLE argument as to why Shepard wakes up on Earth in the destruction ending that makes any sense whatsoever.


It's just a ****ing easter egg

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RLesueur wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

And yet I have still to hear a SINGLE argument as to why Shepard wakes up on Earth in the destruction ending that makes any sense whatsoever.


Have you considered it's just supposed to be the wreckage of the citadel? It's only your assumption that it's earth.


Its earth and the assumption would be that Shepard never left earth to begin with but is in fact still laying there infront of the beam.

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MassEffected555 wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

And yet I have still to hear a SINGLE argument as to why Shepard wakes up on Earth in the destruction ending that makes any sense whatsoever.


It's just a ****ing easter egg


Keep in mind this is the guy that googled 1M1, saw a picture of a resistor and decided that meant Shepard's mind was telling him/her to resist.

You just can't argue with that level of crazy.

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RLesueur wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

And yet I have still to hear a SINGLE argument as to why Shepard wakes up on Earth in the destruction ending that makes any sense whatsoever.


Have you considered it's just supposed to be the wreckage of the citadel? It's only your assumption that it's earth.


That's right, last time I checked the Citadel was made of shiny metal not concrete with metal poles holding things together.

Also there wouldn't be any rubble if the Citadel blew up, it would fly away in space.

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MassEffected555 wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

And yet I have still to hear a SINGLE argument as to why Shepard wakes up on Earth in the destruction ending that makes any sense whatsoever.


It's just a ****ing easter egg


I'm sorry, I really feel the need to pop in here and comment on this. It's utterly ridiculous.

You're claiming that your theory...your speculation, mind you, is somehow more accurate than someone else's speculation that they just left it in there as an easter egg, or that it was left over footage from before they scrapped the indoctrination ending? How do either of those make any less sense than the conspiracy theory based on nothing but fan input?

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Kamagawa wrote...

Is it because we are still getting an incomplete game?
or because they don't think bioware has 2 brain cells to rub together?
Perhaps it is because they don't like this kind of ending (like thinking fight club was epic except for the end)?


Uh, because it's not effing true.  It's not the ending. It's made up crap. Does that answer your question? 

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Why the **** would you leave a cliffhanger Easter egg at the end of a planned trilogy -_-

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RLesueur wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

And yet I have still to hear a SINGLE argument as to why Shepard wakes up on Earth in the destruction ending that makes any sense whatsoever.


It's just a ****ing easter egg


Keep in mind this is the guy that googled 1M1, saw a picture of a resistor and decided that meant Shepard's mind was telling him/her to resist.

You just can't argue with that level of crazy.



lol are you serious? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Vigil never sensed and indoctrination on Shepard, but I guess you can say it was in it's early stages at that point.

But the VI on Thessia not sensing any indoctrination when it could tell Kai Leng was indoctrinated from 500 ft away just shoots down the entire idea for me. Using the theory now would just be a cop out.

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Paragon Auducan wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

And yet I have still to hear a SINGLE argument as to why Shepard wakes up on Earth in the destruction ending that makes any sense whatsoever.


Have you considered it's just supposed to be the wreckage of the citadel? It's only your assumption that it's earth.


That's right, last time I checked the Citadel was made of shiny metal not concrete with metal poles holding things together.

Also there wouldn't be any rubble if the Citadel blew up, it would fly away in space.


No one knows what the citadel is made out of, it's not stated anywhere. Your last statement is a complete guess.

You don't know anything about what happened, none of us do.

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MassEffected555 wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

And yet I have still to hear a SINGLE argument as to why Shepard wakes up on Earth in the destruction ending that makes any sense whatsoever.


It's just a ****ing easter egg


Keep in mind this is the guy that googled 1M1, saw a picture of a resistor and decided that meant Shepard's mind was telling him/her to resist.

You just can't argue with that level of crazy.



lol are you serious? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I really wish I wasn't.

Edit: Here we go; http://social.biowar.../index/10331072

Modifié par RLesueur, 20 mars 2012 - 11:34 .


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Paragon Auducan wrote...

And yet I have still to hear a SINGLE argument as to why Shepard wakes up on Earth in the destruction ending that makes any sense whatsoever.


Because speculation.

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GBGriffin wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

And yet I have still to hear a SINGLE argument as to why Shepard wakes up on Earth in the destruction ending that makes any sense whatsoever.


It's just a ****ing easter egg


I'm sorry, I really feel the need to pop in here and comment on this. It's utterly ridiculous.

You're claiming that your theory...your speculation, mind you, is somehow more accurate than someone else's speculation that they just left it in there as an easter egg, or that it was left over footage from before they scrapped the indoctrination ending? How do either of those make any less sense than the conspiracy theory based on nothing but fan input?


ME? NO dude I am one of the biggest and loudest poeple AGAINST the insane Indoc Theory. It is insanity plain and simple

The little scene at the end of they left was nothing more then a bonus for a high EMS and working hard. Nothing more, nothing less. It's pretty ****ing obvious too. 

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Paragon Auducan wrote...

Why the **** would you leave a cliffhanger Easter egg at the end of a planned trilogy -_-


Why the **** would you sell an incomplete game? 

It's all speculation. Nothing is fact at this point because BioWare has neither confirmed or denied it. Everything you claim is fact is nothing but fan-based speculation because it is only coming from one source: the fans.

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RLesueur wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

And yet I have still to hear a SINGLE argument as to why Shepard wakes up on Earth in the destruction ending that makes any sense whatsoever.


It's just a ****ing easter egg


Keep in mind this is the guy that googled 1M1, saw a picture of a resistor and decided that meant Shepard's mind was telling him/her to resist.

You just can't argue with that level of crazy.



lol are you serious? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I really wish I wasn't.

Edit: Here we go; http://social.biowar.../index/10331072



.... I........... I really don't know what to say. 

#146
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Just read the OP.

And about this indoctrinated theory..didn't shepard spend less time around reapers than the resistance forces back on Earth, like Anderson? Something tells me that they should be indoctrinated as Shepard and the rest comes to "take back Earth".

I wouldn't mind if one of the possible endings would be that Shepard gets indoctrinated, but not all of them. And I really dont like the idea that they changed the ending to be like this. It's just bad.

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MassEffected555 wrote...



ME? NO dude I am one of the biggest and loudest poeple AGAINST the insane Indoc Theory. It is insanity plain and simple

The little scene at the end of they left was nothing more then a bonus for a high EMS and working hard. Nothing more, nothing less. It's pretty ****ing obvious too. 


Gah, I was afraid that would happen. No, not you :P Sorry for quoting you in this, I meant to support you!

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MassEffected555 wrote...

.... I........... I really don't know what to say. 


I know...Bioware has broken this poor persons mind with their terrible ending.

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Kamagawa wrote...

Is it because we are still getting an incomplete game?
or because they don't think bioware has 2 brain cells to rub together?
Perhaps it is because they don't like this kind of ending (like thinking fight club was epic except for the end)?


Three main reasons:

1. Would be a big middle finger to people who like current ending.
2. Not set up well enough to be clear to most players, even in retrospect.
3. Fails to address what actual final Reaper confrontation would be.

So, atm, I don't favor it. However, if the current ending stands, I'll adopt it whole-heartedly.

Modifié par recentio, 20 mars 2012 - 11:38 .


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GBGriffin wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...



ME? NO dude I am one of the biggest and loudest poeple AGAINST the insane Indoc Theory. It is insanity plain and simple

The little scene at the end of they left was nothing more then a bonus for a high EMS and working hard. Nothing more, nothing less. It's pretty ****ing obvious too. 


Gah, I was afraid that would happen. No, not you :P Sorry for quoting you in this, I meant to support you!


It's cool I kinda figured that, Lol i just used it as an excuse to say how insane the theory is again.