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[ElofValant]

Hi,

What I'm wondering is it possible to change the base body? type that your character uses?

Like play a female dwarf, but have the body be of a human or elf instead?
Or play as a human, but look like a dwarf or an elf instead?

Or maybe use the base model or body (or whatever it's called) of a monster or a npc character that normally wouldn't be usable (ie child, special human/elf/dwarf npc's if have unique model's, etc) ?

i know you can morph faces, and edit voice set's.. but what about the model's? Switching between human, elf & dwarf.. if possible.. shouldn't cause problems for armor and such, since isn't armor, weapons, etc designed for these figures?.. or would changing the base model through this out as the armor/weapons interfacing on your character would look at your true race and look like it would on that body?

ie play as a dwarf, change to look human, base race is still dwarf.. so any armor you equip shapes itself for dwarf body ?

Thanx in advance to any answers.

[Sidrat2009]

I'm going to buy the game today hopefully, it could come down to nothing more than a faction class that your character belongs to perhaps?



Just make sure items aren't restricted to faction but actual body types.

[Adinos]

KamatsuDash wrote...
Like play a female dwarf, but have the body be of a human or elf instead?

Or play as a human, but look like a dwarf or an elf instead?

You can play looking like a cat if you like, so I'm pretty sure this would be possible.  Somewhat pointless, but quite possible. 

However, there is not really any such thing as a "base model" - the armour is not something that is attached to the outside of a "base model" of the character - the armour *is* the character.

Modifié par Adinos, 30 novembre 2009 - 11:47 .

[Eshme]

Yes like most of the time. Youd probably have to trick the game into not only applying a different base model, but armor as well, as both is technically the same.

[RavenNightsight]

My boyfriend is playing a Dwarf Commoner Qunari. It still thinks he's a dwarf, but aside from that (and the camera angles being crotch height) there doesn't seem to be any backlash from us doing it.

[ElofValant]

Ok, so theoretically it is possible. How would you go about doing this?



Sorry if this is answered already in a thread, I've read a lot of them and they all seem about morphing characters faces.. and I'm looking to morph/change the whole "look" of the character..



something like what RavenNightsight has apparently done.. I'd like to know how to do that - say change a dwarf to look like an elf or human or even qunari...

[SithLordExarKun]

If i change female elf to human female it looks really weird...

[SithLordExarKun]

I was changing from elf to human actually. What happened was the elfs head was "buried" halfway into the human bodies torso and the fingers looked distortorted.



And im positive i followed that tutorial very closely.

[SithLordExarKun]

This is what i got after following the tutorial EXACTLY. http://img412.images...jpg&via=mupload


EDIT or it isn't possible to play as an elf with  a human female body?

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 02 décembre 2009 - 03:01 .

[A1x2e3l]

Also remember that You can have elf head on human
body, that's why is so important to choose correct base in morph

I am lost. Does the following means that you are creating a
human and not an elf head?:

chose human female as a base in morph tool ( when You
will create head)

As far as I understand the tutorial you are crating a human
body + human head but playing as an elf. You CAN’T have an elf head on a human
body. A human base head should be morphed as elf looking.

SithLordExarKun., the results of your experiments are very
interesting. I am afraid that game modders-animators are going to face the
worst case scenario.

However, there is not really any such thing as a
"base model" - the armour is not something that is attached to the
outside of a "base model" of the character - the armour *is* the
character.

The above can e interpreted in the following way: there is
no body under clothes or armor; armor parts replace body parts and these armor
parts are animated, and that is the result we see in the game. Indeed some
games/game engines are using this approach but mainly for characters that do
not have exchangeable parts like. different armor types, parts. Common base
skeleton animated with extra animation files would be better, more flexible
solution IMHO. Our situation with DA:O is really bad: the character (PC, party
member) that we see on the game screen is assembled from different parts that
have their own skeletons that are separately animated in a synchronized way. If
that is true not only head and fingers but also feet could be distorted (I
guess dress model from you picture includes feet meshes). Hence, it is not a
surprise that we have so few exchangeable armor parts: helmets, gloves, boots,
the rest in one piece. Such clumsy character structure creates huge obstacles
for any skeleton modifications, e.g. addition of extra bones for clothes or
hair animation.

[ChewyGumball]

From what I have seen of the mmh files, the whole skeleton is used to animate the parts. Boots only use a few of the bones, however all of the bones in the skeleton for the body are exported.

[ChewyGumball]

You can't mix the parts because they use different skeletons. The elf skeleton is not the same as the human skeleton so animations will be looking for bones which do not exist.

[SithLordExarKun]

Actually i found out you cant put an elf head on a human body, the answer is you can only "swap" an elf for a human or a qunari completely via the toolset and not have 1 race on another races body.



Thats a dumb mistake i made.

[A1x2e3l]

I cannot consider you pictures as a “dumb mistake”. They
helped many of us a lot to understand how DA:O characters are assembled, we are
now at least one step forward.