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Gorath Alpha

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Summer is very close, here in the south of the USA where I live, and I am already running the A/C for this room (two PCs, one of which runs 24/7, two printers, a TV, and a sound system, all of which produce some waste heat). 

It is time to check on the collections of dust bunnies in your systems, folks!  (I mean, find any such and remove them, don't just admire the stuff!) 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 13 mai 2010 - 12:15 .


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This thread is quite old, so I doubt it'd be much use to the OP, but may be useful if people are experiencing similar problems: No one has brought this up yet, but make sure vsync is enabled.

When I first installed DA:O at release, I was using cat9.10's and a 4850. I was having some driver issues and for whatever reasons couldn't get vsync enabled, causing the title screen to run at ~200fps and quickly ramping the card up to 65-70c (never got warmer than ~55c during actual gameplay, ~60c max stress testing furmark). With vsync disabled that title screen can be a monster.

That sounds like the problem the OP is encountering, plays fine but overheats at the title screen. Vsync can be an issue on older catalyst versions, particularly with the infamous .net framework issues preventing CCC from running at all (or correctly).

Modifié par jsmile39, 13 mai 2010 - 12:37 .


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I use whichever 3D video brand offers the best frames per dollar, and that has been Radeons for over two years now, although I did acquire a 9800 GT fairly recently at a hugely discounted price.  My preference for both brands is just the bare drivers, and if I want overclocking bells and whistles, I rely on ATI Tray Tools or Riva Tuner.  I never saw anything similar to the OP's problem with any of several Radeons I've run tests of this game with. 

However, other than the aberrant Geforce driver, video cards should be equipped with sufficient onboard cooling to handle whatever a game requires from the card without either artifacting or otherwise demonstrating overheat symptoms.  If the card's own cooling solution is hampered by poor internal air circulation for whatever reason, including crowding the rear panel against a wall, the system will operate poorly. 

I used the forum's seach to salect a thread to use as an example, for reference purposes, and added a long comment describing proper cautions and procedures. 

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Yeah, I wouldn't have even known the title screen was so stressful if I hadn't had ATT installed. Only reason I'm forced to use CCC (one-time only, not loaded at startup) is because I'm running a 1080p 32" as a primary monitor, and have to adjust the overscan via CCC to get it looking correct.



Proper cooling is certainly the first place to look, I just wanted to point out that, under the wrong conditions, that title screen will be more stressful than just about *anything* else you can throw at a GPU.

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We're now in the start of winter (yeah, I know, heavy blizzards up north, right), but I was discussing GPU cooling with one of our members, and decided it was as good a time as any to recycle this one.


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Ah yes cooling is an often overlooked issue by your average PC gamer as is keeping things clean. Buy yourself some compressed air and keep it on hand and quarterly (i do mine every 3 months) clean the dust from inside your case and collected in the fans,heatsinks and on top of HDD's.



Maintanence makes a happy computer and you'll have a lot less errors in the long run. Happy cleaning!

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Gorath Alpha wrote...

Summer is very close, here in the south of the USA where I live, and I am already running the A/C for this room (two PCs, one of which runs 24/7, two printers, a TV, and a sound system, all of which produce some waste heat). 

It is time to check on the collections of dust bunnies in your systems, folks!  (I mean, find any such and remove them, don't just admire the stuff!) 

Summer temperatures arrived over a month too early here.  We got so little rain during the past winter and spring that there's been no evaporative cooling from the so-parched ground, or the so-thirsty vegetation! 

Today, June 8th, we have a new arrival with a heating problem he's not recognized yet.  So now is a good time to remember to keep the vents clean, the heat sinks free-flowing, and laptops belong on cooling pads with high volume cooling fans equipped.  Never set your laptop on the bed, or the floor (unless it's hardwood) to play games.  The rugs or the comforters will block the vents. 

Anyway, back to the overheated laptop that only gets 10 FPS, most of which is probably the fault of the CPU, but with any of the Geforce 8n00 graphics chips, other than the 8800s, which were updated after release, the firmware was bad, shutting down the fan when needed most, and causing the card to overheat when it was working hard.  And an 8400 is going to struggle to keep up, especially when matched to such a slow CPU. 

You need an aftermarket fan control to speed up the GPU fan (I like SpeedFan).  And you need that good cooling pad underneath it.  The most effective game change isn't the quality, though. it's the screen resolution.  Drop that several notches and see what happens.

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 08 juin 2011 - 04:45 .


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I forgot that this thread's title subject seems to restrict it to heating up while in the menu. But it does include reference to SpeedFan.  I believe that I'll extract the best parts here and repost it without mentioning the Main Menu this time.

(Done: http://social.biowar...8/index/8386501)

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 24 septembre 2011 - 06:12 .


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 Just in case someone comes here at any point in the future.

I'm a linux user, and have Dragon Age 1 & 2 installed and running. I noticed the same issue as the OP because I can easily alt-tab out of windows games, and have a GPU temp indicator in the equivalent of my system tray. Basically I had these games sitting at the main menu screen and the video card temp climbing higher the longer I left it at the main menu. Enabling vsync seems to have fixed it for me.

(By all means, feel free to point out the irony of a linux user having the same issue as windows users.)

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Rather than whether Linux has anything to do with poor firmware, or with inadequate hardware, is not the question, the real question is whether you and anyone else finding this thread recognizes that it's simply not the developers' jobs to look out for bad engineering among graphics devices.