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[S Atomeha]

i just realized i don't know the answer to that. 

[JasonC Shepard]

Mordin

[Simpfan]

Which mole?
The one revealing the females to the krogan?
Or the one that revealed it to Cerberus?

[Pantegana]

If you're talking about Cerberus' inside man I don't know either O_o

[GiaOmerta]

Maybe it was the Dalatrass herself. She was hell bent on screwing over the Krogan. What's one STG base to another Krogan Rebellion?

[chairslayer]

I'm pretty sure it was the Dalatrass. Who else would A) Know about the females on Sur'Kesh and Have a highly vested interest in making sure the genophage isn't cured (based on the information we know)

[Rhyth]

So...who on the Normandy told Wrex that Commander Shepard didn't cure the Genophage?

[S Atomeha]

yeah the one who tipped off cerberus :/ i just realized that entire subplot is brought up yet dropped as soon as you finish the mission

[Orthodox Infidel]

It was that guy who doesn't want you to touch that.

[Visserian99]

If you mean the one that revealed it to Cerberus, I assumed it was Udina.

[Arokel]

Visserian99 wrote...

If you mean the one that revealed it to Cerberus, I assumed it was Udina.

I don't think Udina would have known about the base or the females.  Cerberus got there incredibly fast.  Too fast for Udina to have told them and for them to get there imo.

[FellishBeast]

Orthodox Infidel wrote...

It was that guy who doesn't want you to touch that.

[AnOniMouse]

I would think the Dalatrass too, but someone on the base, tot he left of the elevator down says the unsigned, encrypted message was outbound from within the base, so they have to have been on the ground.
I might think it it was the one complaining to a superior about curing the genophage, but they seem to too young and with the status quo to have Cerberus contacts...
so that leaves:

Orthodox Infidel wrote...

It was that guy who doesn't want you to touch that.

!!
But really I have no idea, other than it actually probably wasn't her.
Maybe a human infiltrator, not a salarian traitor?

[Nathan45628]

the Dalatrass, if she cant have it, no one can.

[Argolas]

Nathan45628 wrote...

the Dalatrass, if she cant have it, no one can.

If the Dalatrass was so determined to stop the cure, don't you think revealing their location, authorizing the exchange and then running to Cerberus would be a smart move?

Modifié par Argolas, 21 avril 2013 - 11:29 .

[Wulfram]

Argolas wrote...

If the Dalatrass was so determined to stop the cure, don't you think revealing their location, authorizing the exchange and then running to Cerberus would be a smart move?

She doesn't want the Turians and the Alliance to be pissed at her, so she needs the cure to be destroyed by a third party.

Don't know if it is her, but it's not a totally implausible motive.

Modifié par Wulfram, 21 avril 2013 - 11:57 .

[Argolas]

Wulfram wrote...

Argolas wrote...

If the Dalatrass was so determined to stop the cure, don't you think revealing their location, authorizing the exchange and then running to Cerberus would be a smart move?

She doesn't want the Turians and the Alliance to be pissed at her, so she needs the cure to be destroyed by a third party.

Don't know if it is her, but it's not a totally implausible motive.

I can't rule it out completely, but it just seems a little off. The Dalatrass never seemed concerned about not pissing people off to me, nor does she depend or even ask for any kind of support from any of the representatives present on the war summit.

Consider what is going on in that STG base, like the Yahg uplift, that kind of business is as classified as it can get. Revealing the location of that base to a terrorist organization with the intent of letting them attack it, that is as bad as treason can get.

[Nathan45628]

Argolas wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Argolas wrote...

If the Dalatrass was so determined to stop the cure, don't you think revealing their location, authorizing the exchange and then running to Cerberus would be a smart move?

She doesn't want the Turians and the Alliance to be pissed at her, so she needs the cure to be destroyed by a third party.

Don't know if it is her, but it's not a totally implausible motive.

I can't rule it out completely, but it just seems a little off. The Dalatrass never seemed concerned about not pissing people off to me, nor does she depend or even ask for any kind of support from any of the representatives present on the war summit.

Consider what is going on in that STG base, like the Yahg uplift, that kind of business is as classified as it can get. Revealing the location of that base to a terrorist organization with the intent of letting them attack it, that is as bad as treason can get.

During the treate she was willing to jeopardize salarian aid for the war effort if she didnt get her way, one STG base is far less signifacant. she truely believes in her way to be the right way through out, so the motive for treason bodes less of a punishment than a krogan rebelion.

[knightnblu]

The Cerberus inside man is actually the Dalatrass herself. She doesn't want the Krogan females released and she doesn't want the genophage cured. She dimes out the STG base to Cerberus and presto! Problem solved, or so she thought.

[Argolas]

The Dalatrass has many possibilities to deal with that. She may have simply not authorized the exchange. If she really is determined to go back on her word, she could simply contact some of the anti-Krogan minded STG members so they would take care of the Krogan. There are plenty of ways for insiders to kill her and blame the illness. Even if someone finds out, it's still better than what you are suggesting she had done. And that's not all, there are many other possibilities than stupidly revealing the location of a top-security facility to a terrorist organization.

Why is it so hard to believe that it is simply a Cerberus mole within STG? Some random guy, maybe hired, maybe indoctrinated? It just makes so much more sense.

Modifié par Argolas, 21 avril 2013 - 01:59 .

[DWH1982]

I've heard (although I'm not sure it's true) that there was a sub-plot dropped from ME3 where there was a Cerberus mole on the Normandy.

If that's true, he/she could be responsible for the leak. It would also explain why Cerberus seems to be on your ass for most of the game.

It does not, however, explain the transmission that came from within the STG base. Given the evidence, I think it's more likely the mole was within the STG, and the writers decided not to bother developing that point any further.

I'm sure the STG did a full investigation, and that the individual responsible is no longer among the living.

[Nathan45628]

Argolas wrote...

The Dalatrass has many possibilities to deal with that. She may have simply not authorized the exchange. If she really is determined to go back on her word, she could simply contact some of the anti-Krogan minded STG members so they would take care of the Krogan. There are plenty of ways for insiders to kill her and blame the illness. Even if someone finds out, it's still better than what you are suggesting she had done. And that's not all, there are many other possibilities than stupidly revealing the location of a top-security facility to a terrorist organization.

Why is it so hard to believe that it is simply a Cerberus mole within STG? Some random guy, maybe hired, maybe indoctrinated? It just makes so much more sense.

Cerberus arn't likly to act immediatly on a matter from a few random sorcues, their more likly to attack if informed from a higher source, its not in thier benifit to waste resources on a unlikly source.

[Argolas]

Nathan45628 wrote...

Argolas wrote...

The Dalatrass has many possibilities to deal with that. She may have simply not authorized the exchange. If she really is determined to go back on her word, she could simply contact some of the anti-Krogan minded STG members so they would take care of the Krogan. There are plenty of ways for insiders to kill her and blame the illness. Even if someone finds out, it's still better than what you are suggesting she had done. And that's not all, there are many other possibilities than stupidly revealing the location of a top-security facility to a terrorist organization.

Why is it so hard to believe that it is simply a Cerberus mole within STG? Some random guy, maybe hired, maybe indoctrinated? It just makes so much more sense.

Cerberus arn't likly to act immediatly on a matter from a few random sorcues, their more likly to attack if informed from a higher source, its not in thier benifit to waste resources on a unlikly source.

The mole wasn't some random STG member that decided to leak intel to Cerberus for some reason. It was a Cerberus sleeper agent. They have those everywhere. 

[MysticSpace]

Argolas wrote...

The Dalatrass has many possibilities to deal with that. She may have simply not authorized the exchange. If she really is determined to go back on her word, she could simply contact some of the anti-Krogan minded STG members so they would take care of the Krogan. There are plenty of ways for insiders to kill her and blame the illness. Even if someone finds out, it's still better than what you are suggesting she had done. And that's not all, there are many other possibilities than stupidly revealing the location of a top-security facility to a terrorist organization.

Why is it so hard to believe that it is simply a Cerberus mole within STG? Some random guy, maybe hired, maybe indoctrinated? It just makes so much more sense.

   Actually I always thought it could be that one Salarian you could save in ME1 in the Virmire base.  I assumed he hitched a ride with Ranna who turned out to be indoctrinated after all so maybe it was the same for him too.

[MysticSpace]

Argolas wrote...

Nathan45628 wrote...

Argolas wrote...

The Dalatrass has many possibilities to deal with that. She may have simply not authorized the exchange. If she really is determined to go back on her word, she could simply contact some of the anti-Krogan minded STG members so they would take care of the Krogan. There are plenty of ways for insiders to kill her and blame the illness. Even if someone finds out, it's still better than what you are suggesting she had done. And that's not all, there are many other possibilities than stupidly revealing the location of a top-security facility to a terrorist organization.

Why is it so hard to believe that it is simply a Cerberus mole within STG? Some random guy, maybe hired, maybe indoctrinated? It just makes so much more sense.

Cerberus arn't likly to act immediatly on a matter from a few random sorcues, their more likly to attack if informed from a higher source, its not in thier benifit to waste resources on a unlikly source.

The mole wasn't some random STG member that decided to leak intel to Cerberus for some reason. It was a Cerberus sleeper agent. They have those everywhere. 

True but STG only has Salaerians and their science projects how is Cerberus going to get a sleeper agent  in there? The only aliens they "worked" with was through Shepard.