Out of the many plot holes, inconsistencies, and confusing elements/idea/character, the one that kills it for me the most is:
if Starchild has total control over the Citadel, they why didn't he undo the sabotage the Protheans did to the Keepers, or help Soveriegn/Saren?
A close second is, why use the heavily defended Reaper teleporter beam when we could use the conduit from Ilos?
What is the biggest plothole for you?
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#152
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 03:33
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bucyrus5000 wrote...
Out of the many plot holes, inconsistencies, and confusing elements/idea/character, the one that kills it for me the most is:
if Starchild has total control over the Citadel, they why didn't he undo the sabotage the Protheans did to the Keepers, or help Soveriegn/Saren?
A close second is, why use the heavily defended Reaper teleporter beam when we could use the conduit from Ilos?
Yep, ME3'S notion that Starchild controls the Citadel and the Reapers -- INDEED that he invented them! -- makes the events of ME1 nonsensical, and that is a real shame because ME1's plot, whatever flaws someone may dig up on it, was truly something special.
#153
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 12:02
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[quote]freshtoothpaste wrote...
1. Harbinger doesn't say a word. It hits you with a beam that should kill you, but doesn't bother to finish you off.[/quote] He assumes you're dead, everyone else is after all.
[quote] 2. Three Husk brothers appear out of nowhere. My gun has infinite ammo and survived, but my medigel did not.
[/quote] Less a plothole and more of an active gameplay element designed to prevent someone from wasting all their shots and being unable to complete the game.
[quote]3. Marauder Shields. My infinite gun destroys him in a few shots.
[/quote] It's a Carnifex. It kills most things in a few shots.
[quote] 4. Harbinger doesn't have any other things to kill you with. Just those guys.
[/quote] Why would he? You destroyed the Reaper that was previously there and their ground forces are fighting the Resistance all over London.
[quote] 5. You end up on the Citadel. How did my ship get to Earth? Or the fleet? I thought the Citadel allowed the Reapers to shut off the Mass Relays. So, when TIM told them what was happening, why didn't they?
[/quote] Maybe they thought letting everyone get to one point would make the harvest more efficient? Or that it would be easier to harvest the rest of the galaxy if all the fleets were wiped out in one battle?
[quote] 6. Why does the kid need to be the thing from your dreams? Why doesn't the Citadel AI god child look like Avina? That might have been fun; all this time, you thought Avina was a dumb hologram. But it turned out it wasn't so dumb.
[/quote] Because it is artistically fitting that it is.
[quote] 7. So, the Reapers fuse themselves into a techno-organic hybrid creature, that builds Mass Relays to help intelligent life evolve on predictable paths, so that they can kill them, so that purely technological life like the god child, won't wipe out organic life. That's stupid.
[/quote] Only when you use the term "kill". They preserve the genetic material to store in a techno-organic form, thus ensuring that the genetic codes of the organic races are never lost.
[quote] 8. Shepard never argues with the stupidity of the god child. Even though je's always fought and argued, here, at the end, he uncharacteristically shrugs his shoulders to accept what he's told.
[/quote] If you don't accept the childs logic then pick Destroy.
[quote] 9. Why is he being allowed to make a choice? Why didn't the reapers just kill him when they got to the citadel that they were somehow able to drag to Earth?
[/quote] Kill him with what?
[quote] 10. Why aren't the Reapers trying to blow up the Crucible or the Citadel? The construction wasn't done in secret. Why don't the Reapers know what it is?
[/quote] They are. If you take too long to make your decision you get a game over screen which says that the Reapers destroyed the Citadel. As for why they don't try to destroy the Crucible when it is being built, they don't know where it is. It's hard to blow something up if you don't even know where it is.
[quote] 11. When the beam goes across the galaxy to blow up the Mass Relays, why isn't everything destroyed on the systems where the relays explode?
[/quote] Because the energy powering the relay is converted into a different form and released before the relays explode. This makes it different to what happened in Arrival where the relay was destroyed and all of it's energy released in its raw form.
[quote] 12. Why did Joker and The Normandy leave Earth?
[/quote] Because Joker has an irrational attachment to the Normandy (hence why he was willing to unshackle an AI to save it in ME2)
[quote] 13. Intergalactic travel is impossible without the relays. Is everyone who came to Earth's defense stranded now?
[/quote] Intergalactic travel was never possible. Intersystem travel will be harder but not impossible. All the races still have normal Faster than Light technology so they can still travel between systems.
[quote] 14. Why are the squad members I brought with me with Joker? Did they run away? How did they get to The Normandy?
[/quote] This one is a plothole.
[quote] 15. Why does that planet with the old man and the kid look like the desktop wallpaper of that guy who sits down the hall? Did they really just grab a desktop wallpaper for the last scene of the game?
[/quote] Does it matter where they got the picture from? It looks good. Why make another one if it already exists and is free to use?
[quote] 16. Why did Shepard or whatever take a breath on the Earth?
[/quote] Because Shepard is a boss who can survive falling to Earth in the rubble of a space station. Also Shepard is a boss and can breathe wherever the hell Shepard likes.
[quote] 17. Why is the game ending with an ugly looking graphic, asking me to buy more content?
[/quote] Because they want you to buy more content. Which isn't even out yet.
1. Harbinger doesn't say a word. It hits you with a beam that should kill you, but doesn't bother to finish you off.[/quote] He assumes you're dead, everyone else is after all.
[quote] 2. Three Husk brothers appear out of nowhere. My gun has infinite ammo and survived, but my medigel did not.
[/quote] Less a plothole and more of an active gameplay element designed to prevent someone from wasting all their shots and being unable to complete the game.
[quote]3. Marauder Shields. My infinite gun destroys him in a few shots.
[/quote] It's a Carnifex. It kills most things in a few shots.
[quote] 4. Harbinger doesn't have any other things to kill you with. Just those guys.
[/quote] Why would he? You destroyed the Reaper that was previously there and their ground forces are fighting the Resistance all over London.
[quote] 5. You end up on the Citadel. How did my ship get to Earth? Or the fleet? I thought the Citadel allowed the Reapers to shut off the Mass Relays. So, when TIM told them what was happening, why didn't they?
[/quote] Maybe they thought letting everyone get to one point would make the harvest more efficient? Or that it would be easier to harvest the rest of the galaxy if all the fleets were wiped out in one battle?
[quote] 6. Why does the kid need to be the thing from your dreams? Why doesn't the Citadel AI god child look like Avina? That might have been fun; all this time, you thought Avina was a dumb hologram. But it turned out it wasn't so dumb.
[/quote] Because it is artistically fitting that it is.
[quote] 7. So, the Reapers fuse themselves into a techno-organic hybrid creature, that builds Mass Relays to help intelligent life evolve on predictable paths, so that they can kill them, so that purely technological life like the god child, won't wipe out organic life. That's stupid.
[/quote] Only when you use the term "kill". They preserve the genetic material to store in a techno-organic form, thus ensuring that the genetic codes of the organic races are never lost.
[quote] 8. Shepard never argues with the stupidity of the god child. Even though je's always fought and argued, here, at the end, he uncharacteristically shrugs his shoulders to accept what he's told.
[/quote] If you don't accept the childs logic then pick Destroy.
[quote] 9. Why is he being allowed to make a choice? Why didn't the reapers just kill him when they got to the citadel that they were somehow able to drag to Earth?
[/quote] Kill him with what?
[quote] 10. Why aren't the Reapers trying to blow up the Crucible or the Citadel? The construction wasn't done in secret. Why don't the Reapers know what it is?
[/quote] They are. If you take too long to make your decision you get a game over screen which says that the Reapers destroyed the Citadel. As for why they don't try to destroy the Crucible when it is being built, they don't know where it is. It's hard to blow something up if you don't even know where it is.
[quote] 11. When the beam goes across the galaxy to blow up the Mass Relays, why isn't everything destroyed on the systems where the relays explode?
[/quote] Because the energy powering the relay is converted into a different form and released before the relays explode. This makes it different to what happened in Arrival where the relay was destroyed and all of it's energy released in its raw form.
[quote] 12. Why did Joker and The Normandy leave Earth?
[/quote] Because Joker has an irrational attachment to the Normandy (hence why he was willing to unshackle an AI to save it in ME2)
[quote] 13. Intergalactic travel is impossible without the relays. Is everyone who came to Earth's defense stranded now?
[/quote] Intergalactic travel was never possible. Intersystem travel will be harder but not impossible. All the races still have normal Faster than Light technology so they can still travel between systems.
[quote] 14. Why are the squad members I brought with me with Joker? Did they run away? How did they get to The Normandy?
[/quote] This one is a plothole.
[quote] 15. Why does that planet with the old man and the kid look like the desktop wallpaper of that guy who sits down the hall? Did they really just grab a desktop wallpaper for the last scene of the game?
[/quote] Does it matter where they got the picture from? It looks good. Why make another one if it already exists and is free to use?
[quote] 16. Why did Shepard or whatever take a breath on the Earth?
[/quote] Because Shepard is a boss who can survive falling to Earth in the rubble of a space station. Also Shepard is a boss and can breathe wherever the hell Shepard likes.
[quote] 17. Why is the game ending with an ugly looking graphic, asking me to buy more content?
[/quote] Because they want you to buy more content. Which isn't even out yet.
Modifié par General Tiberius, 03 avril 2012 - 12:06 .
