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[Necroscope]

Tony208 wrote...

Who is this guy? The fact that he is making an article on it means it's not a very small minority. Way to make yourself look stupid.

Haha, yeah... This^.

[recentio]

Michael Pachter is a vocal super-minority.

[g0dhax0rz]

Did not even know this human being existed until i read this post. May he return to the hole from which his filthy mother spat him from.

[IsleySilverlord]

Each day, I get a little angrier. BW's silence, plus trolls journalists which haven't even played the game properly to understand what's all about, makes my faith and my respect for BW become, slowly, into hate.

I do not want this to happen.

[Denduran87]

asdoorip wrote...

Each day, I get a little angrier. BW's silence, plus trolls journalists which haven't even played the game properly to understand what's all about, makes my faith and my respect for BW become, slowly, into hate.

I do not want this to happen.

^THIS^

[shirobuta]

Ah, this article's opening statement started with that FTC complaint. This is part where it make the people who are clamouring for change look silly.

However, what's up with this guy who scoffs at the polls? And calling people wimps? Now that is very professional of him.

[Biggtuna]

 This isn't even unprecedented, what we're requesting. Bethesda, a maker of many good games, released DLC for Fallout 3 after many fans said the ending was unacceptable. When people say this would violate BioWare's rights as a developer, I find that disingenuous. It's been done before. Fallout 3 has no asterisk next to it - it's considered a great game. Bethesda is doing exceptionally well lately - Skyrim won practically every award for 2011 -and- , even more importantly, had almost universal praise among fans who played it. Would critics of our opinion say that Bethesda has been hurt by their decision in handling the Fallout 3 ending? Most would say they are doing the best they've ever done; they're respected by gamers for their ability to take criticism and do their best to please their customers.

While that may be branded as "giving in", "appeasing a minority", or giving enititled crybabies what they want, it's inarguably a good business practice. Alternate endings please us, and  those who enjoy things as they stand currently would see no difference. Why is it considered demanding to ask for more information about how the game ends, what your choices ultimately cause, or what the fate of virtually anyone in the game is? We currently know nothing other than the main enemy was stopped, and the ending brought up questions we didn't have before. These questions result in speculation ranging from everyone on Earth will die within a month of the ending to Earth itself was destroyed instantly at the end. When critics of our requests say we simply want a "happy" ending, rather than a Pyrrhic victory, that is false. We would accept a devastating loss of life; we simply want to know the extent of it, hopes for the future of the characters, etc. Is the entire galaxy so far gone that there is no hope, or are their hopes for the future, just very bleak possiblilites? To say this is like a real-life situation where the ending is not always good for the protagonist is missing the point. When bad things happen in real life, we know the extent of them. Innocent people die, people are oppressed, etc. We can see how bad things are. It's not as if major choices are made, and we simply know things ended badly. Usually, you can tell the extent of the consequences of a tough decision. That's all we want: knowledge of just how the universe fares after Shepard is gone. If things inevitably end tragically, fine. We just want to know how things would stand at the conclusion to an otherwise epic, amazing, and engaging story. It is a testament to just how good BioWare did previously that we care so much.

Modifié par Biggtuna, 21 mars 2012 - 02:55 .

[Shady41]

We should direct the full might of the Internet Hate Machine on this guy.

[Kanner]

EA executives and gaming industry analysts/journalists are a very small vocal minority as well. None of whom picked this coming a mile off and all of whom look intensely silly right now. =)

[shepskisaac]

I like Patcher, but with things like that he always sides with the company, not gamers/consumers, even if it doesn't really make sense. Like he defended draconian DRM to no ends

Modifié par IsaacShep, 21 mars 2012 - 03:04 .

[xeNNN]

what an ass.

anyway i couldn't care what this individual thinks if hes going to be an arse and insult us.

just hold the line guys! mass effect 3 was going for 37.99 in HMV in England the other day now its 27.99 well it is at my local one at least so

hold the line!

[Shadow-Novus]

Aww what's the matter Patcher, did the "wittle vocal minowity" get under your skin?

I'm starting to enjoy whenever another article bashes us. Keep it up ya haters, you're just making us more well known

Hold The Line

[UrdnotGrunty2]

I never knew 90% was the minority...Gosh I should retake elementary school math, maybe I should just quit life, because im obviously a stupid entitled vocal minority gamer who is just made because my there were bad endings in my video game.

/sarcasm

[Ruari]

Ah yes, just a vocal minority, we have dismissed those claims.

Seriously...take a look at EA's stock as of late. It's not doing too hot. You'd think if they had just realsed one of the best games ever/of the year it'd be at least a little higher.

[FRancium]

"consumers will learn that they are wimps, and will complain about 'Madden NFL' because their quarterback doesn't throw the ball far enough."

classless.

don't even bother talking to him

[ace6633]

I love when talking heads, that no one has every heard of, come from under rocks to grab 30 seconds of relevance they've been hoping to achieve their whole lives. Of course they have to do it by talking about things they have no knowledge about and were heretofore never associated with in the first place.

[shepskisaac]

ace6633 wrote...

I love when talking heads, that no one has every heard of, come from under rocks to grab 30 seconds of relevance they've been hoping to achieve their whole lives. Of course they have to do it by talking about things they have no knowledge about and were heretofore never associated with in the first place.

Actually, Patcher is very well known in gaming industry and by most gamers and he KNOWS games. However, in any "company vs. customers" issue, he almost always sides with the company, even if it's clearly wrong. That, and his statement was classless in general

[Pain Train]

He brings up a good point, this movement needs to move to Madden when we have won here. Madden sucks year after year. It's time to get that game back to quality...

[x-Killision-X]

Michael Pachteris is a guy who has not once since I've heard of him said anything good about gamers. The guy thinks we are sheep. He is just an analyst. He should know his place and leave crticism to people who can see the customer base of the game industry as more than just a resource to exploit. Guys like him do more harm to the gaming industry than all of us combined ever could.

[Aesieru]

If I'm the minority, does that mean the majority is too thick to see that your choices don't actually matter throughout the game and the same result occurs regardless except for a multi-colored ending?

[MaxMcKay]

so many bad things I want to say but I'll be good. Hold the line folks and keep the fires burning hot!

[Dridengx]

Michael Pachter is well known by anyone who's a serious gamer and he's trusted by many to give out useful information, he's even predicted some thigns prior to coming to the market. I agree with him. Those complaining are the minority and all that matters is the reviews, they hold more weight than a few angry fans

[Dridengx]

asdoorip wrote...

Each day, I get a little angrier..

Actually, each day you should get a little wiser and realize a video game ending  shouldn't be such a big part of your life, it's been over two weeks now, and to think how much longer you are willing to do this to yourself and to claim you are getting more angery is not healthy. Think about your life, family, friends, anything.. its just a game.. or is this all you have in life, someone else's story you took to close to heart?

[HenchxNarf]

Pachter is amazing, and he's a buisnessman which makes him knowledgeable in how companies work. So, if he's saying this about you all, I would be inclined to believe it. He knows better than you how things work.

[Greed1914]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Pachter is amazing, and he's a buisnessman which makes him knowledgeable in how companies work. So, if he's saying this about you all, I would be inclined to believe it. He knows better than you how things work.

And yet Forbes, another business source, seems to completely disagree with him.  Hm.