^Is there really a grey area between "ending is acceptable" "ending is unacceptable"?
age vs opinion of end
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#302
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:24
Keltic
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At 39 I've played console and PC games since 1980 and that was worst game ending I've ever played, totally invalidated the whole series IMO, As a married man with 2 kids who works long hrs my gaming time is limited and that really just left me feeling like i had wasted a lot of time and effort.
#303
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:24
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I'm 30 and I find this so called ending as a harassment of my full integrity as a person and a punch right into my beautiful female face.
I can't stay neutral because we did not get a conclusion and what was promised by a trusted company so far. I am a huge fan of BioWares work, but I'm a customer too in the same way. By their decision to do "this" so called "ending", it's like they don't value all their hard work and they don't value us, fans/customers. That is a pretty bad situation for all of us (BW and us) who are included in the same picture. I sincerely hope they will repair the damage somehow (fixed endings) and I hope that this will be a good and worthy lesson for all future projects they intend to do.
They don't make needed repairs, fans/customers will probably turn their back and board on a runaway train with bad memories in hope that they can find a company who is not making fools out of them. I already reserved my seat. Hope that Bioware will come on to that train station with a new, polished bus to collect us all before runaway train comes... That simple.
I can't stay neutral because we did not get a conclusion and what was promised by a trusted company so far. I am a huge fan of BioWares work, but I'm a customer too in the same way. By their decision to do "this" so called "ending", it's like they don't value all their hard work and they don't value us, fans/customers. That is a pretty bad situation for all of us (BW and us) who are included in the same picture. I sincerely hope they will repair the damage somehow (fixed endings) and I hope that this will be a good and worthy lesson for all future projects they intend to do.
They don't make needed repairs, fans/customers will probably turn their back and board on a runaway train with bad memories in hope that they can find a company who is not making fools out of them. I already reserved my seat. Hope that Bioware will come on to that train station with a new, polished bus to collect us all before runaway train comes... That simple.
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#304
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:26
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Seems there is a cross generational hatred of the ending.
#305
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:31
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23. College graduate with a Bachelor's of Science. Technically, a genius and always read at several grades above where I should be while I was in school. Oh, and then there was the time I translated the bulk of the major passages of the Aeneid from Latin to English in middle school. I'm not trying to sound pompous, so I'm sorry if it comes off that way. I'm trying to make a point. It has nothing to do with "not being smart enough" to understand the ending. The endings sucked.
From a literary stand point, it failed spectacularly. Lack of falling action. No resolution. Glaring inconsistencies in previously established logic. If Shakespeare wrote that kind drivel, no one would remember him today. But I'm supposed to take it as "art"? Laughable. It's not art. That entire train of thought only came out after people who supposedly enjoyed the ending began to condescend the larger group of players who saw the final moments as they were, utter garbage.
Then there's the failure as a game. The ending left me--and the bulk of the players communicating on these forums, it would seem--feeling like out actions can't affect the bigger picture. I'll skip passed the total lack of determinism in that regard in spite of the utter certainty the starchild seems to have on how we'll kill ourselves. The shadow of futility that the ending cast over the entire trilogy is not how to end a series of games. People play games to forget about their daily problems. If I wanted an exercise in pointlessness, I'd try to explain to my little brother why punching the wall doesn't make him cool. Gamers don't want to be reminded about their problems, they want to feel there a chance they could overcome them. ME3 failed to deliver on that.
Couple in the myriad glitches that are markedly less forgivable following a complete play-through and the dependence of the SP campaign on MP performance, and we have a game that probably should have been under development for at lest a few more months. Delays in a game that turns out near perfect are easily forgiven. A rushed game full of flaws is not.
Sacrifice only works when someone can appreciate what's been gained by the sacrifice. Aside from a scene of the Normandy crashing on an unkown world, we have no idea what our actions even gained for the characters we fought for over 5 years and hundreds of hours of playtime. Being given three modes of Reaper-assisted suicide is hardly the level of choice we've been presented with so far in the series. Let's consider the options for just a second. Control: you do little more than hit the snooze button on the Reapers alarm clock. You're told you "will" want to come back and scour the galaxy of advanced life, estentially freeing your friends but damning their descendents. Synthesis: force the evolution proscribed by a sythetic who destroys organics to "save" us from other synthetics that may or may not actually come into being. And yes, the starchild is fuly synthetic, meaning the first target of the Reapers should have been the little bugger's CPU, rather than a single living being. Destroy: well, I hope you're either a completeionist or a fan of multiplayer. Otherwise, you didn;t just destroy the primary mode of travel for the entire galaxy, you also scorched to cinders the only habitable planet near the massive fleet you gathered to fight the Reapers. You also killed everyone down on the surface, although it's a quicker end than starvation.
I'm sorry, but I can't accept that as an ending. Hmm....I wonder if Mark Zuckerberg is interested in buying an IP from EA and doing right by its fans....
From a literary stand point, it failed spectacularly. Lack of falling action. No resolution. Glaring inconsistencies in previously established logic. If Shakespeare wrote that kind drivel, no one would remember him today. But I'm supposed to take it as "art"? Laughable. It's not art. That entire train of thought only came out after people who supposedly enjoyed the ending began to condescend the larger group of players who saw the final moments as they were, utter garbage.
Then there's the failure as a game. The ending left me--and the bulk of the players communicating on these forums, it would seem--feeling like out actions can't affect the bigger picture. I'll skip passed the total lack of determinism in that regard in spite of the utter certainty the starchild seems to have on how we'll kill ourselves. The shadow of futility that the ending cast over the entire trilogy is not how to end a series of games. People play games to forget about their daily problems. If I wanted an exercise in pointlessness, I'd try to explain to my little brother why punching the wall doesn't make him cool. Gamers don't want to be reminded about their problems, they want to feel there a chance they could overcome them. ME3 failed to deliver on that.
Couple in the myriad glitches that are markedly less forgivable following a complete play-through and the dependence of the SP campaign on MP performance, and we have a game that probably should have been under development for at lest a few more months. Delays in a game that turns out near perfect are easily forgiven. A rushed game full of flaws is not.
Sacrifice only works when someone can appreciate what's been gained by the sacrifice. Aside from a scene of the Normandy crashing on an unkown world, we have no idea what our actions even gained for the characters we fought for over 5 years and hundreds of hours of playtime. Being given three modes of Reaper-assisted suicide is hardly the level of choice we've been presented with so far in the series. Let's consider the options for just a second. Control: you do little more than hit the snooze button on the Reapers alarm clock. You're told you "will" want to come back and scour the galaxy of advanced life, estentially freeing your friends but damning their descendents. Synthesis: force the evolution proscribed by a sythetic who destroys organics to "save" us from other synthetics that may or may not actually come into being. And yes, the starchild is fuly synthetic, meaning the first target of the Reapers should have been the little bugger's CPU, rather than a single living being. Destroy: well, I hope you're either a completeionist or a fan of multiplayer. Otherwise, you didn;t just destroy the primary mode of travel for the entire galaxy, you also scorched to cinders the only habitable planet near the massive fleet you gathered to fight the Reapers. You also killed everyone down on the surface, although it's a quicker end than starvation.
I'm sorry, but I can't accept that as an ending. Hmm....I wonder if Mark Zuckerberg is interested in buying an IP from EA and doing right by its fans....
#306
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:34
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27 and I think the ending is an epic fail in every way imaginable.
#307
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:37
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28, considered the endings so bad I returned the game because of them
#308
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:37
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22, endings suck and are not in harmony with any other part of the game, or even the series.
Had this been any other game, any other where I would had much less control, like in Deus Ex: Human Revolution, I might have accepted it. Not here. Here it breaks the illusion and immersion of the game, which is hard to achieve. Here it's like a kick in balls after long football game.
Had this been any other game, any other where I would had much less control, like in Deus Ex: Human Revolution, I might have accepted it. Not here. Here it breaks the illusion and immersion of the game, which is hard to achieve. Here it's like a kick in balls after long football game.
#309
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:38
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37 years old.
I do not like the current endings.
I do not like the current endings.
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#310
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:42
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33, and it´s soul-crushingly bad. Been depressed ever since I finished it:crying:
#311
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:42
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28 / female and frustrated of the ending
#312
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:43
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Lancane wrote...
36 and the ending is nothing more then utter garbage.
Ditto.
#313
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:44
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I'm 33 and am seriously disappointed, invalidated all the time and effort put in over the last few years.
#314
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:45
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26 Male, While not enraged like some, very dissappointed.
#316
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:45
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Paparob wrote...
I'm 12 what is this?
Damn beat me to it lol.
#317
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:47
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30, and it's twaddle.
Absolute waffle.
Absolute waffle.
#318
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:47
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43 and this was the best game series I've played since Wasteland (1986 people). The ending was awful and I have no desire to replay any of the three.
#320
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:50
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I'm 35 and what is this horrible hackjob FMV that plays no matter what actions I choose!??
Edit : Wrongly submitted to wrong topic
Edit : Wrongly submitted to wrong topic
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#321
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:51
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Nearly 37 and think the endings were atrocious. I'm trying to play through the games again but I'm lacking the enthusiasm for it.
#322
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:52
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25 and ruined the entire series for me......
#323
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:55
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28 and ending depressed me.
My husband is 31 and he liked the ending.
BTW, we both see it as indoctrination, and he thinks it is Shep's last breath at the end and Reapers win, while I still am holding out hope that is not the case because I prefer happier endings.
It would also be interesting to see how people of different ages interpret the ending.
My husband is 31 and he liked the ending.
BTW, we both see it as indoctrination, and he thinks it is Shep's last breath at the end and Reapers win, while I still am holding out hope that is not the case because I prefer happier endings.
It would also be interesting to see how people of different ages interpret the ending.
#324
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:55
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Nope and I am kind of shocked at how many people find the endings less than satisfactory. Age doesn't seem to be a factor. It seems like most of the disappointment stems from not having an ultra happy ending, and/or from the ending choices being overhyped by ME3's marketing staff.steej wrote...
Cazlee wrote...
29 female and I think the ending makes sense. I liked the heartfelt goodbyes and foreshadowing, the explanation of the origin of the reapers. I like the starchild though I'm not sure if he represents the makers of the reapers or the reapers themselves. I like that beyond all odds Shepard saves the galaxy by opening the citadel, without that the cycle would have ended. I like that the crucible isn't a conventional weapon, but instead it activated an override in the reapers. Shepard saved the galaxy from the reapers and is a legend. I feel like I got my happy ending.
You mean im not alone in the world?
#325
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 02:00
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30 and unimpressed by the ending. I get they were trying to do something artistic or bittersweet. The delivery was unimpressive. There needs to be a greater sense of closure, and one cannot introduce a completely new 'villain' at the eleventh hour. Coupe that with some poor dialogue at the end, and all three endings being a) unexplained by the epilogue, 
using the same video with the exception of maybe ten seconds (if you get the sucky ending) and all the same but for the colours, and c) coming way out of the middle of nowhere... Yeah.
Could I live with the endings as they are? Yes. I'd be incredibly disappointed in Bioware, though.
using the same video with the exception of maybe ten seconds (if you get the sucky ending) and all the same but for the colours, and c) coming way out of the middle of nowhere... Yeah.Could I live with the endings as they are? Yes. I'd be incredibly disappointed in Bioware, though.
