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[Meltemph]

27 - ending pretending to be deep, being incredibly shallow and nonsensical.

[terdferguson123]

Hendrik.III wrote...

31, did literature studies at uni, thought the 'ending' was abysmal. It was supposed to be the grand finale of a magnificent series of immersion and player choices- and they just leave the end wide open. Hate it in books, works in movies, feels like crap in games.

BW forgot that we don't care about the galaxy at all, we care about Shepard and crew. People who lose everything have nothing to live for, in this game, we lose everything and gain nothing. No reason to play it again, unless you're a masochist or not an RPG fan.

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Stop saying "we", you do not speak for everyone. Use "I" instead. Also, the fact that you think that stopping an extinction event for the rest of the galactic lifespan is "gaining nothing" is slightly terrifying.

Modifié par terdferguson123, 24 mars 2012 - 05:55 .

[Norrax]

Meltemph wrote...

27 - ending pretending to be deep, being incredibly shallow and nonsensical.

like a hipster!

[TurambarEA]

26, hate the endings.

[eddieoctane]

Kawamura wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Idiotic comment, I am 25, a 4.0 engineering student at a prestigious college, and I loved the ending. Some people like to dig plot holes out of anything, even though every peice of fiction has them in droves if you want to look for them. So, your comment is baseless and I'd say fairly ironic.

Yeah, but you're an engineer. You can just look at the bottom of a plot for its serial code and check out it's particulars in a Big Big of Plots.

(That was a joke told by a physics person)

I'm an engineer too. The total disregard of established in-game "science" by the final moments of the game was that much more jarring as a rseult. I couldn't stand how the Reapers manipulated the Geth into attcking (previous only acted defensively and most were rebuilding Rannoch for the Quarians), meanign that the Reapers themselves are the threat. The Zha were AI and organic livign in harmony until the Reapers showed up and convinced the AI to kill their creators and hijack their bodies, which is probably the Metacon war. Any man of science should take a stand against the total disdain for logic int he game's conclusion, or lack thereof. Every story has a loose end here or there, but you're a terrible engineer if you think that comeplete disregard of sound thought should ever have been allowed to roll off the assembly line.

Modifié par eddieoctane, 24 mars 2012 - 06:26 .

[Catastrophy]

39, this ending is grievous mental harm.

[terdferguson123]

eddieoctane wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Idiotic comment, I am 25, a 4.0 engineering student at a prestigious college, and I loved the ending. Some people like to dig plot holes out of anything, even though every peice of fiction has them in droves if you want to look for them. So, your comment is baseless and I'd say fairly ironic.

Yeah, but you're an engineer. You can just look at the bottom of a plot for its serial code and check out it's particulars in a Big Big of Plots.

(That was a joke told by a physics person)

I'm an engineer too. The total disregard of established in-game "science" by the final moments of the game was that much more jarring as a rseult. I couldn't stand how the Reapers manipulated the Geth into attcking (previous only acted defensively and most were rebuilding Rannoch for the Quarians), meanign that the Reapers themselves are the threat. And I remember seeing somewhere that the Metacon war was also caused by the Reapers- a race in the Prothean empire modified their bodies with tech and VIs to monitor that tech, VIs which the Reapers convinced to turn on their creators and start the Metacon war. Any man of science should take a stand against the total disdain for logic int he game's conclusion, or lack thereof. Every story has a loose end here or there, but you're a terrible engineer if you think that comeplete disregard of sound thought should ever have been allowed to roll off the assembly line.

I don't see this lack of logic you are pointing out. Look at it this way, the catalyst is obviously some kind of AI/program tasked with preventing galactic extinction. (ALL races, not just the advanced ones) Using statistics and mathematics (the language of an AI/program), it's not hard to see that the probobility of galactic extinction by means of it's own creations (synthetics in this case) is incredibly high, this would potentitally (and definately eventually) effect not just the creators own race but ALL galactic races. The Catalyst creates a solution that will prevent the destruction of ALL galactic life (not just advanced), by galactically resetting the advanced cultures via the Reapers so that the under-evolved life will have a chance to live without being destroyed by the creations of those that are advanced. You cannot think of this in Human terms, you must think of this as how an AI would (numberes/probobilities), mathematically it is the best option for preserving Galactic life throughout the entirety of Galactic time. The logic makes perfect sense, however it does not make it morally right. That's the disconnect here, as an AI/program, the Catalyst cannot see such morals, it simply does what it is tasked to do (prevent galactic extinction). I'd hope that as an engineer yourself, you'd be able to see this is not disregard of logic or sound thought, but exactly the way a computer would solve a problem such as this.

Modifié par terdferguson123, 24 mars 2012 - 06:25 .

[kofelover]

59 and the ending(s) seem less like 'artistic vision' and more like someone got ahold of a bad batch of Timothy Leary's private stash from the '60's. Even Timothy Leary once stated, "You're only as young as the last time you changed your mind."

So, whoever got into the chemicals and created this ending should look to their mentor and fix it.

[Oakenshield1]

21, in college, one of the wost endings ever.

[Chuvvy]

13 and they rule! i couldnt even figure out wut happend!

[TomY90]

21 and the ending makes no sense unless you use the indoctrination theory.

But considering it sounds like that is not true considering the fix is resolving plot holes and adding closure.

[BigNastE]

elitesalt wrote...

26. you'd have to be REALLY young (i.e. too young for the ME series) and/or developmentally impaired to find a modicum of enjoyment from the ending.

Sounds like a liberal elitist.

[sargon1986]

Bioware should take a look at this thread.

[Doomed Avatar]

28. The ending is horrible.

[Bantz]

29 and hated the endings

[Eyeshield21]

I'm 18 and the endings suck krogan balls(which is very digusting like the ending).

[Mr Arg]

25. Once you understand it from the indoctrination perspective, it's not bad. Could have used better resolution, definitely.

This vid explains it well

Modifié par Mr Arg, 24 mars 2012 - 07:09 .

[Reverend002]

26.

I dislike the ending.

[Flyprdu]

34. And BioWare phoned in a huge letdown.

[Lakenpose]

Paparob wrote...

I'm 12 what is this?

+1

[j78]

I’m 33 and it was beyond awful.

[Feops1]

31. It was bad enough that I don't want to replay it with my other ME2 saves.

Very embarrassing that they failed to put together a proper story. They had a massive resource right at their fingertips for proper ideas.

[RandomSyhn]

22 and I feel like someone rushed the finish, looked at it and said "eh, good enough"

[Kawamura]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

Idiotic comment, I am 25, a 4.0 engineering student at a prestigious college, and I loved the ending. Some people like to dig plot holes out of anything, even though every peice of fiction has them in droves if you want to look for them. So, your comment is baseless and I'd say fairly ironic.

Yeah, but you're an engineer. You can just look at the bottom of a plot for its serial code and check out it's particulars in a Big Big of Plots.

(That was a joke told by a physics person)

Yeah, I have heard them all, Physics majors just love to pounce all over us. As much as I love Physics, it's too bad a lot of what they do is theoretical and will rarely ever be applied. Regardless, the ending isn't nearly as bad as a lot of people are saying. There is a lot to like about them, especially for someone who can see the sacrifices that it would take in order to prevent galactic extinction every 50,000 years. I guess, I am confused about what people were expecting? So many people say they wanted an ending where they would just battle the Reapers conventionally and defeat them, and that not having this option is inconsistent with the series. I however, think that fighting the Reapers conventionally would be inconsistent with the series, the series has always driven the point home that defeating the Reapers would be about survival and not about winning. Defeating the Reapers conventionally would defeat the point of absolute survival. I guess, I just have a hard time reading all these posts from people saying everything about the ending was inconsistent, I see it the complete opposite.

Well, you are studying just a very specific form of applied physics. 

(Of course, my engineering mate has a job and I'm still in school, so really, I'm teasing. But most of physics is applied!)

Part of the issue of on inconsistancy is that throughout the series you're fighting impossible odds as an individual and you change those things. The themes also seem to be about "unity through diversity" (human beings are noted as special because they're just so damned diverse genetically) and the "good ending" (snythesis) is about the removal of diversity. 

It's always been about sacrifice, sure, and surviving. But not about a magical force making you pick something, which is really against the idea of self determanism and fighting for survival and freedom. 

[MoonsKisu]

JohnnyG wrote...

39, and the worst ending to a quality series I have ever seen. I know there are worse endings for many things, but none of them had the quality that Mass Effect 3 did up until the last 10 minutes.

Same (except that I'm 38)