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Is ME3 going to become game disaster of the year?


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It'll be game screw up of the year. I can 100% gurantee if the ending never happened then most people would be in love with this game. There would be a few dislikers but every game has that.

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To think, 95% of the game was pretty good. It could have been remembered as a satisfying end to a trilogy. But nooo, Mac Walters and his speculation doodle had to **** everything up. ****ing A. it would have been so easy to make a good ending, so easy to just play safe, but noooooo. Derp, lets reuse the stupid kid as IMAGERY. SO DEEP AND SYMBOLIC.

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So far three awards from me for ME3:
1. The best game of the year.
2. The best series of games ever for me (Fallout 3 killed previous winner. And by the way, thank you Bethesda for strangling Fallout: Online. Now my hopes go to Wasteland 2).
3. The most disappointing ending of the ye... wait... for me it's more like EVER (my game experience is limited tho).

/and even more offtopic/ The most disappointing game I've played is Rainbow Six: Lockdown. Mission plan my ass with Vegas too. :D

Modifié par Frozen Mind, 21 mars 2012 - 06:25 .


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Nope, not "the" or even "a" disaster. But the media narrative about the game has become nothing but "The fans hate the ending!", and none of the praise has gained much traction. The fandom outrage IS the story of the game. Might be that the GOTY awards will be going to a more universally loved game this year, not the one that "had people bashing the ending and blaming the devs". The new Bioshock perhaps?

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Rudy Lis wrote...

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The fact that I can answer everything about ME lore with "it got blown up" is pretty darn funny.


And it will be running joke. Hell, it already is. We kidding about that since first people beats game, so basically since march 7. Posted Image


LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

DA2 was a terrible terrible game but it diden't destroy the replayability of the DA for me, after knowing that choices don't actualy matter in ME I just can't seem to get through ME or ME2 now, as when I was playing and replaying those games I was allways thinking in the back of my mind "I wonder what will happen in the next game now that I've done thies?" but now that feelings gone.


Interesting, how I will appraise DA2 if I cannot force myself to beat it just once, but beat ME3 4 times. Alas, I guess that's all. I've seen all interactions I wanted (well, almost all) and I'm done with it. There is nothing in replayability left for me.


Ha no I diden't mean I still replay DA2, I sold that after a single playthrough but it diden't destroy dragon age origins. Whereas the ending to ME3 pretty much makes the main selling point of the series (choice and consequence ) moot.

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I think ME3 is still a success, even with the less than stellar endings.

The criticism over the ending is fine, people are entitled to their opinion, and I am thrilled that Bioware responded... but a very small percentage of folks went to far in their attempts to get the point across.

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LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

Ha no I diden't mean I still replay DA2, I sold that after a single playthrough but it diden't destroy dragon age origins. Whereas the ending to ME3 pretty much makes the main selling point of the series (choice and consequence ) moot.


Dunno, I wasn't being able to force myself to replay DAO thrice, so I ended up with two playthroughs - seems game has minimal story variety, so I see no reason to relive another diablo-style grind just to went from one dialogue rake to another dialogue rake. DA2 is so repulsive, so I couldn't force myself to even finish Act 1 (or whatever it named). That's pure murder talent to make game I force myself to play in. And failing. Posted Image

Not sure for ME series, really. I'm done with ME3 for now, that's for sure - minimal storyline drifts, just guddamn mathematics - get +5 in war assets there, but get -7 here. "Johnny, la gente está muy loca!" (If you from Europe you probably being tired from that song last summerPosted Image). Add not refined action, especially on Insanity (which could be pure fun with proper development)...

However, now I will replay ME1 and ME2 as pure Renegade. Just because now I know it doesn't mean anything at the end...Posted Image

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no one will buy their dlc if it doesnt offer a change to the endings. what ppl want is their decisions to affect the outcome like it does in all previuous games right until the ending of me3.

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The GOTY ship has sailed, is no longer a possibility.

An ending DLC if good could make it a nominee, but other games would need to **** it back for ME3 to win.

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Still early in the year. Plenty of new stuff coming out that could flop.

Might not hear about anything else though. There is a lot of fire under ME3.

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groundhogie wrote...

I think ME3 is still a success, even with the less than stellar endings.

The criticism over the ending is fine, people are entitled to their opinion, and I am thrilled that Bioware responded... but a very small percentage of folks went to far in their attempts to get the point across.


So what's new?  Ignore the 2% of either side that does.  Pointless to even bring them up, which people seem to do over and over.  But a story isn't a story unless we can report on the really stupid parts of it right?

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bobobo878 wrote...

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"I feel so sad because good games are hard to find, many comes and goes but few make remember them, I played other bioware games and they were always so professionally done.
So sad . . . "

stop right there, ME3's ending wasn't perfect, but are you seriously going to say that this game was overall worse than DAII?


I'm going to go on-record as saying that.  Granted, I didn't dislike DA2 as much as some and I admit it had some problems and a lot of legit criticism was directed at it for those flaws.

ME3's ending, however, is so out of whack that it's deleterious to the experience of the rest of the series as a whole, not just ME3 itself.  DA2's ending was a bit open ended and needed more clarification, but it could get away with being vague by virtue of it not being the last title in the series.  ME3 *is* the last title  in its series, however.

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Acidrain92 wrote...

It depresses me how such an amazing game can be completely discredited by its fans all because of one 5 minute period.

*bangs head against brick wall*


That 5 minute period is by far the most important 5 minutes of the entire series.  You really do completely invalidate all your other hardwork if you botch the conclusion.  That's been true of any story and Mass Effect 3 does not get to be exempt from that rule.

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I hardly think so, despite a disappointing ending and a few other flaws, it was a great ride.

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jamesp81 wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

X_30002000 wrote...
"I feel so sad because good games are hard to find, many comes and goes but few make remember them, I played other bioware games and they were always so professionally done.
So sad . . . "

stop right there, ME3's ending wasn't perfect, but are you seriously going to say that this game was overall worse than DAII?


I'm going to go on-record as saying that.  Granted, I didn't dislike DA2 as much as some and I admit it had some problems and a lot of legit criticism was directed at it for those flaws.

ME3's ending, however, is so out of whack that it's deleterious to the experience of the rest of the series as a whole, not just ME3 itself.  DA2's ending was a bit open ended and needed more clarification, but it could get away with being vague by virtue of it not being the last title in the series.  ME3 *is* the last title  in its series, however.


I don't have a problem with both ME3's ending (the fate of the galaxy after your choice) and DA2's ending (the cliffhanger and the mage-templar war, which is the only thing for now that could lead me to buy the next DA game, if there'll be some change from DA2).
What I don't like about the final hours in those games is the lack of any explanation and in ME3 (plus something/someone on the final moment), and Ander's actions, plus the fact that no matter what faction you support, you still have to fight both mages and templars (but expecially Ander's actions).  Plus, the whole Act 3 in DA2 was rushed in my opinion.
I don't like both parts, more or less in the same way. But considering the games completely, I liked ME3, but I can't say the same for DA2.

Modifié par hhh89, 21 mars 2012 - 08:40 .


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Yeah, I think ME3 is pretty much going on the record as the Godfather III of video gaming now.

They should have just stopped at '2' until they came up with something good enough to close out the trilogy. Now we're stuck with an astoundingly bad end to Shepard's epic journey.

Modifié par devSin, 21 mars 2012 - 08:42 .


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Salis777 wrote...

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You are deluded. It will be right up there for game of the year and deservedly so.


Probably, plenty of gaming journalists around to shill that one.


Clearly has no clue about journalistic integrity. I find it funny that people only use this argument when a professional's opinion doesn't please them.

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devSin wrote...

Yeah, I think ME3 is pretty much going on the record as the Godfather III of video gaming now.


Except the church explodes at the end

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Salis777 wrote...

Except the church explodes at the end

Because the Pope was actually the Starchild.

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devSin wrote...

Yeah, I think ME3 is pretty much going on the record as the Godfather III of video gaming now.

The ending of GF3 was one of the best scenes in entire trilogy. Sorry for the offtopic.

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devSin wrote...

Salis777 wrote...

Except the church explodes at the end

Because the Pope was actually the Starchild.


/highfive

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Ghost Warrior wrote...

The ending of GF3 was one of the best scenes in entire trilogy. Sorry for the offtopic.

I don't necessarily disagree, but I struggled to think of a trilogy that had a final installment that was so inferior to its predecessors.

I agree that it's not the best comparison. Probably I should have stuck with just calling it a major disappointment instead of trying to be clever about it. Oh, well.

Modifié par devSin, 21 mars 2012 - 08:47 .


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devSin wrote...

 I struggled to think of a trilogy that had a final installment that was so inferior to its predecessors.

Matrix?

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I was disapointed in the ending, but it's still by far the best game I played this year. And not any upcoming game interests me as much as any ME3 dlc could... In spite of the ending. That's how much I love this series.

Modifié par Aloren, 21 mars 2012 - 08:52 .


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Aloren wrote...

I was disapointed in the ending, but it's still by far the best game I played this year. And not any upcoming game interests me as much as any ME3 dlc could... In spite of the ending. That's how much I love this series.

Same here.