Aloren wrote...
I was disapointed in the ending, but it's still by far the best game I played this year. And not any upcoming game interests me as much as any ME3 dlc could... In spite of the ending. That's how much I love this series.
Salis777 wrote...
Yeah and I think thats 99% of people, and why the situation is so unique. 5 mins of 120 hours is all that needs remedied. I don't see _anyone_ say the rest of the game is bad.
Salis777 wrote...
Ok sure, I'll rephrase - I don't see anyone saying the rest of the game is the main problem. Sure there are other things that people would like to see changed, but by far the overarching concern is the end. From what I've seen.
And it seems to me the major damage to review scores comes from the ending.
Rudy Lis wrote...
Salis777 wrote...
Ok sure, I'll rephrase - I don't see anyone saying the rest of the game is the main problem. Sure there are other things that people would like to see changed, but by far the overarching concern is the end. From what I've seen.
And it seems to me the major damage to review scores comes from the ending.
Well in this case I concur.
However, I still think that ending is just one of problems. One of many. Maybe most easiest to spot. That's why I think it's red herring - back in army days we've been trained to create "anti-camouflage" - to camouflage things in such ways to make them more obvious than they should be, yet still not causing any suspicion. I'm afraid my military vocabulary is not as good as I'd like too, but I hope it is clear what I mean.
And to be honest, I can't get rid of thought that ending is not main problem - for 25 hours I spent on playthrough, ending took about 15 munites. It's like reparing a house full of cracks, holes and other damage (home alone 2 as referense) and all that and all we do with new ending it's just repair facade. I think if we had all answers we wanted and closed all themes in those first 24 hours 45 minutes, even such endings could be easier to accept.
XTR3M3 wrote...
I wonder if their "artistic right" is worth the big hit in ratings this game received? With an ending in line with the plot and lore like the ME1 and ME2 had, this could have easily averaged a 95% or better rating. Since "artistic integrity" is almost an oxymoron and doesn't pay worth squat, I wonder why they cling to their ending so hard. It might have been as simple as a "normal" human reaction of being hurt when someone says negative things about something you created. TRUE integrity occurs when they actually step back and assess their ending and admit that "yea, that doesn't meet with quite a few things we promised leading up to the release and doesn't follow the well received past Mass Effect style endings."
Salis777 wrote...
I know what you mean, I just think Bioware has to look at it in a damage control sense now. They have X amount of dollars to 'fix' things - patches/DLC whatever. They are going to be pushed down the road of using that to fix endings first it seems to me, filling in the rest should still be on the cards but this is obviously going to delay the rest. In my opinion.
, as long as they will correct their errors, mistakes, bugs and make it worthy of purchase. I may not be a top-level cost estimator, but I can calculate something. And so far I cannot even imagine what kind of epic work they have to do to make me buy anything. I'd better go buy that "silk lingerie" pack for ME2.
Rudy Lis wrote...
Salis777 wrote...
I know what you mean, I just think Bioware has to look at it in a damage control sense now. They have X amount of dollars to 'fix' things - patches/DLC whatever. They are going to be pushed down the road of using that to fix endings first it seems to me, filling in the rest should still be on the cards but this is obviously going to delay the rest. In my opinion.
Well, since I have no access to their financial documents I cannot calculate nothing, but I have very interesting example in front of me and there is another coming up in April. I'm talking about Witcher Enhanced Edition. Both are supposedly free (first was free, for Witcher 1), both adds content (by CDPR promise - several hours for Witcher 2) and some other "sunshine and bunnies". Yes, it generaly took them a year to release such massive patch, but they released it in the end. Comparing that with current actions of "formerly best RPG authors in industry" makes me think what's wrong with this planet.
Simply put - I can accept delay, maybe I even accept a charge for "better begginning", "better ending" and, eventually "better ME3" DLCs
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Salis777 wrote...
Yeah Diablo 3 comes out in 6 weeks, everyone will move on. And CDPR does do a great job with Witcher for sure. The question is where is Bioware in 3 months, and this is the pivotal moment for them. I guess we wait and see.
Salis777 wrote...
I'd love to be replaying Mass Effect and its content for years to come, ain't up to me though!
Salis777 wrote...
And if they don't do anything I'd still totally buy silk lingerie for Ash DLC
Ah, well, I still like her, regardless. 
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Klimax wrote...
Disaster? Not by long shot.(hopefully) But there could be disaster in creation. Industry deciding it is not worth doing game series like this... I don't think there is any other company who tried similar approach as Bioware for ME series.
(BTW: One saying is too true in this case - The loudest and vocal group is always group of complainers regardless of their size or proportion.) And nobody knows real scope - loudness doesn't number makes, but makes nice headlines for articles and subsequent clicks.
Also fun thing is how one's personal opnion overrides everybody else, especially of those who disagree.
Remember: EA might decide it is not worth it and shut down most of operaton completely. (They in the end operating under same scheme as Activsion or Ubisoft)
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