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[Antikristine]

I got Zevran to 90% and love (I have bedded him twice and he told me about his last mission before he came to Ferelden). However, I managed to make a decision he didn't approve of, so now he's back to adore. Will he ever get into the love category again? I've given him a couple of gifts and I have him at 95.

[Maria Caliban]

What decision was this? Did you tell him he *had* to stay with you?



Other than that one, I don't think anything will permenatly break the relationship.

[Antikristine]

No, the decision didn't have anything to do with the relationship. It was something completely different - who I wanted to side with in Orzammar.



There's supposed to be some sweettalking on his part when he comes to love you, and I was worried I might have spoiled my chances and that he'll never get back into the Love category again. I guess I'll just gift him up to 100 and see what happens...

[Mesecina]

Antikristine wrote...

No, the decision didn't have anything to do with the relationship. It was something completely different - who I wanted to side with in Orzammar.

There's supposed to be some sweettalking on his part when he comes to love you, and I was worried I might have spoiled my chances and that he'll never get back into the Love category again. I guess I'll just gift him up to 100 and see what happens...

Wait, but Zev won't reach love until after you call for Landsmeet and complete his personal quest no matter the approval rating.

[Antikristine]

In that case I'll just wait. But I did have him at love for a brief time however. But I guess the sweettalking won't happen before the personal quest anyway, which means I should have a second chance of getting his approval up. Thanks for the information, I'm happy now!

[suliabryon]

Okay, I was going to make a new post this morning, but my question falls loosely under this topic. So, I've finally gotten to the Landsmeet, I've got Zev's approval rating at 100% (gifts no longer add any bonuses, so I assume it's at 100 - also, on Xbox I don't see where it says things like "adore" or "love" with the approval chart?) My city elf has also been sharing a tent with him on cold nights for some time now.



Anyway, Zev's personal quest happens, and he fights beside her, etc. I was expecting some sort of feeling or possible declaration at that point from him, but instead he gives this very distant speech about how now he's free, so he supposes he could do anything, go anywhere, etc. I respond by asking him to please not leave, he laughs and makes a casual joke while agreeing to stay.



Then a few beats later, I get a cut scene where he offers me an earring, again making it sound like a reward for saving his life, nothing personal. When I ask if it's a token of affection, he brushes off the question. When I say I'll only take the token if it means something, he gets mad and takes the earring back, and I lose approval from him!



I'm not looking for a declaration of love from him (yet) but at least backhanded admission that my city elf means more to him than any other party member would be nice at this point! i'm out of conversational options, complete his sidequest, and that's all?? I'm going to reload and accept the earring so I don't lose approval with him, but please tell me that isn't the last cutscene with him I get!



Up until now, I've been pretty pleased with the romance side quest with Zev. All the characters have commented on it, and he routinely replies to them with comments about her beauty, etc. But it's frustrating if there's no actual emotional payoff to all of the build up.

[Antikristine]

The earring offer was what I was thinking of.

Might seem I've ruined my chances with him though, since I did have his approval at Love but don't have that anymore. Well, I guess time will tell. I'll try to remember to post an update about it when I know.

Edit: I just come to think of it. Maybe your approach to him giving you the earring was not the right one? Although he might get attached to you, he seems like the kind of character who doesn't want to be forced into admitting the fact.

Modifié par Antikristine, 30 novembre 2009 - 07:42 .

[PuffyTail]

Antikristine wrote...

The earring offer was what I was thinking of.

Might seem I've ruined my chances with him though, since I did have his approval at Love but don't have that anymore. Well, I guess time will tell. I'll try to remember to post an update about it when I know.

Edit: I just come to think of it. Maybe your approach to him giving you the earring was not the right one? Although he might get attached to you, he seems like the kind of character who doesn't want to be forced into admitting the fact.

Yes, this.  The earring *is* a token of affection, but he'll get snippy if you keep trying to get him to say it.  Just thank him for it and he'll be happy.

Whether you can try for love again after he takers the earring back, I do not know.  Just keep trying different convos with him at camp and see what happens, I suppose.

[Xeyska]

suliabryon wrote...

Up until now, I've been pretty pleased with the romance side quest with Zev. All the characters have commented on it, and he routinely replies to them with comments about her beauty, etc. But it's frustrating if there's no actual emotional payoff to all of the build up.

Camp, camp, and camp. Most of the major conversations will be at camp. Talk to Zevran and pick the option “Come to my tent.” He should refuse, quit talking to him, and initiate another conversation with Zev. Pick the option “You changed.” He’ll talk about his feelings, and reciprocate if you wish.

Antikristine wrote...

The earring offer was what I was thinking of.



Might seem I've ruined my chances with him though, since I did have his approval at Love but don't have that anymore. Well, I guess time will tell. I'll try to remember to post an update about it when I know.



Edit: I just come to think of it. Maybe your approach to him giving you the earring was not the right one? Although he might get attached to you, he seems like the kind of character who doesn't want to be forced into admitting the fact.

Did you get the encounter with the Antivan Crows before the Landsmeet? If not, then you haven’t ruined your chances with him yet. Though I don’t see how it’s possible to have Zevran on Love before the Antivan Crow encounter, he was always at Adore for me and it turned to Love right after the encounter.

[suliabryon]

Xeyska wrote...

Camp, camp, and camp. Most of the major conversations will be at camp. Talk to Zevran and pick the option “Come to my tent.” He should refuse, quit talking to him, and initiate another conversation with Zev. Pick the option “You changed.” He’ll talk about his feelings, and reciprocate if you wish.

Wait, so this is after the encounter with the Crows and the earring? 

[Xeyska]

suliabryon wrote...

Xeyska wrote...

Camp, camp, and camp. Most of the major conversations will be at camp. Talk to Zevran and pick the option “Come to my tent.” He should refuse, quit talking to him, and initiate another conversation with Zev. Pick the option “You changed.” He’ll talk about his feelings, and reciprocate if you wish.

Wait, so this is after the encounter with the Crows and the earring? 

Yes.

[suliabryon]

Aha! Thank you.

[Xeyska]

Your welcome, Zevran is pretty easy to raise approval. Just by picking the right dialogue choices, one can get him to the high 90's on just the Dalish Gloves alone. Easy to bed, but hard to love.

[Antikristine]

I did indeed have his approval at Love, but only for maybe an hour or so. He got right back to Adore when I chose the side Zev didn't like in Orzammar. (I got a -3 on that.)



However, I'm not at landsmeet yet. I'll just have to be patient then

[Lucy Glitter]

Zevran is very difficult to get anything romantic out of. I think that's just his nature, though. I can imagine he would be very reluctant to even admit to himself he liked someone that much. It would take a long time.

You have to be gentle with him when he gets into his serious talks, otherwise he will freak out vent it all on you. Don't have high hopes for him admitting his feelings, though. I can imagine that would happen much later on in your relationship.

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 02 décembre 2009 - 09:37 .

[Antikristine]

I agree with you Lucy_Glitter - it wouldn't make sense for his character that he even admitted his feelings until very late in the game. I have him at +100 Adore atm, I just gave him the elven gloves that reminded him of his mother, and hopefully I'll have his personal quest before Landsmeet. I'm recruiting the last group now.



I'm not really expecting any great declarations of love, however, I'm just aiming for the cutscene where he gives me the earring and an approval raise to Love.



As a side remark, I think it's interesting that he does sometimes say "Si, mon amore" as a response when you give him a command though.

[Eclesis]

Antikristine wrote...
As a side remark, I think it's interesting that he does sometimes say "Si, mon amore" as a response when you give him a command though.

I caught that too. It makes me wonder what would happen if your PC actually went to Antiva, or Orlais, or any of the other countries; would you actually be able to speak the language, or have to rely on someone to translate for you?

It's a neat touch though, sort of in-character for him to only mention love indirectly or under a foreign language.

[Antikristine]

Update: all right, got him hooked alright. I did his quest, his approval is at +100 Love, and he gave me the earring. Tada! The playthrough is set for a happy ending

[Sylph_14]

Yay! He has a couple more relevant dialogs after the earring, mare sure you don't miss those!

[Antikristine]

Of course not! This is a character who's really grown on me, I won't stop talking to him



After first seeing him only as a hawt boytoy to have some fun with during my travels, I actually grew really fond of how he develops as a person. And I really admire how he really hard avoids admitting his personal feelings, but instead informs you indirectly what the relationship means to him. In the end I actually think this romance is much deeper and much more interesting than romancing Alistair.

[frostajulie]

Agreed which is why I hope I am able to finish the game with my Dalish elf rogue who is so into Zev.

[Malkavianqueen]

*sighs happily* Zevran needs more love. I found his romance a lot more rewarding than Alistair's because it was sweet without being so utterly mushy it made me want to gag. ;P



Plus he agreed with the brunt of my decisions...Alistair's geared more towards a good character, even if you do harden him. Zevran gains approval if you randomly kill people/side with demons and such. ^__^ The only thing he gets iffy about is the mistreatment of elves, but I always romance him as an elf so that's a non issue.

[Xeyska]

I'm recording some of Zev's conversations, it's interesting to re-watch them to see the hidden depth that you guys speak of. Kudos to Mr. Gaider for making Zevran. My City Elf was my first character to romance him, and he seems to fit together with a lot of my characters.

Now to work on my Dwarf Commoner romance with him.

Modifié par Xeyska, 04 décembre 2009 - 01:47 .