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[Sovereign z]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Huh. I noticed the whispers more than anything. Aren't whispers a pretty big thing for indoctrination etc?

I noticed the whispers the second time I played the ending. It actually helps convince myself that it was all just a dream.

[Zyrious]

Opsrbest wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

Mellotron wrote...

It's the same rubble he/she collapsed in while trying to run to the beam.

While this may be true, it's still speculation, although pretty valid imo.

What I'm getting at is more of the fact that the ending breath video shows the entire ending was indoctrination / inside Sheps' head vs simply being a choice to throw in an easter egg.

You can't prove either side of that argument.

It's Neither here nor there but the beam never actually angles towards Shepard. He always Leans to the left so the theroy it's self has some merit. If Shepard was to survive which he had done before ala Vancouver then it makes sense with how only one of the endings have the Shepard lives scene and the other two don't.

If i were to take a guess, Shepard only survives "destroy" because that's the only ending where he *isnt* vaporized at the atomic level. Just throwing that out there.

[Jimbe2693]

Well this is the version I saw.

Modifié par Jimbe2693, 21 mars 2012 - 04:23 .

[IST]

Dark Wyn wrote...

Fame-KIllz wrote...

 here


watch from 19 mins 12 seconds onwards.

you don't see the beam directly, but you see a blue/purple glow in the background

Okay, now THAT time I saw it.
Hmm...VERRRRRY INTERESTING.  Not sure how I didn't catch that sooner.

Weird.. I don't remember a blue light in my ending either.. maybe my Bravia's on the blink lol.

Another thing I just noticed, the voices/noises stop just when Shep takes a breath (or was that added in post production for effect??) - if not added in .. .isn't that the voices/grip of the reapers being cut off?

[stwu]

I've never gotten that blue light or the whispering. Is this one of the "16" endings?

[GBGriffin]

EionaCousland wrote...

I can't really see anything in the original, unaltered version... :/ Heck, I wanna believe, though.

To that I say: why don't you?

Honestly, why not buy into it? I think it's rubbish, personally, but the evidence, as it stands, can go either way, or even off into a new direction. At this point, with no official word, you can speculate and twist it however you like.

At the present moment, all that really matters is what you choose to believe. It honestly is like a religion. You can choose to believe it, and as long as you don't expect me to share your views or try to convert me, we're cool.

There's no harm right now in believing in it, unless you try to attack the people who don't. The only potential harm comes later if BioWare dismisses it or denies it was their intent.

If it helps you get by in the short term, though, and keeps you holding the line...why not?

[LadyWench]

I've been rewatching. Anymore hints? I feel so dumb, but I'm not getting it.

[mumwaldee369]

If at first the facts don't support your crackpot theory....alter the evidence!

[shadey]

or maybe it's just blue lighting effect.....

it's a pretty common lighting blur colour in me

[shepskisaac]

The 'blue light" is nothing but a result of editing the original video and brightening/increasing contrast. The most interesting thing about is the wave-shaped object/piece of building in there. If anything, people should look for something in the game that resembles it, not blue light

[CavScout]

Sovereign z wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Huh. I noticed the whispers more than anything. Aren't whispers a pretty big thing for indoctrination etc?

I noticed the whispers the second time I played the ending. It actually helps convince myself that it was all just a dream.

I am sure it did since the video's author, surprisingly a indoctrination supporter, added them in.

[LadyofRivendell]

To clarify what TC is getting at:



(Shot capped at the end of the linked YouTube video, hence the poor quality)
What I believe the argument here is that you can clearly see the beam emitting light and reflecting on the surroundings. 

EDIT:
Okay, nevermind, apparently the video was edited? Theory debunked.

Modifié par LadyofRivendell, 21 mars 2012 - 04:29 .

[GBGriffin]

Golferguy758 wrote...

At the same time there was only one real way to end ME2 and have it continue the story, Shepard living through the suicide mission.

I like IT since it's cool and I'd like to have seen it implemented since it would inevitably lead to more endings, but I'm equally fine with just getting not horrible endings.

Personally, and I'm not speaking for anyone else but myself, ME2 is the most rewarding ending to a game I've ever played. I had to prepare for it, and my work paid off in a spectacular way: the entire team came together, beat the odds, and came out alive (but, at the same time, you can get everyone killed, even Shep...no point, but it's possible).

There were elements of preparation involved that actually affected the outcome. Yes, the story plays out the same, but having Garrus take a rocket to the face vs having him not take a rocket to the face is within your power to control. That didn't really happen in ME3, not to any of the major characters, at least.

At this point, I'd like to see two things: more ending choices, ranging from awful to pure goodness, or an apology / an open acknowledgment that they messed up. Those, to me, would be ideal.

[shepskisaac]

the contrast/brightness/colors in this version of the video have been manipulated so no, just no

Modifié par IsaacShep, 21 mars 2012 - 04:27 .

[RShara]

Yeah I was watching my videos of the ending and I didn't hear or see anything other than rubble.

[Captain Shakespeare]

That's an altered video.

[Zyrious]

For the record, the linked video has been edited to have the glow and the whispers. The original version has neither. Check out other "shepard lives" videos on youtube, or for those of you with the PC version just go check out the file.

[CavScout]

LadyofRivendell wrote...
What I believe the argument here is that you can clearly see the beam emitting light and reflecting on the surroundings. 

Except the screen cap doesn't clearly show what you're claiming and is from the edited video created by a indoctrination supporter.

[leapingmonkeys]

Sorry, no. I looked at that link, and paused the video over and over. There's no beam there. There are some clouds of dust or something that are catching some light, but they all move and fade during the video.

[GBGriffin]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

To clarify what TC is getting at:



(Shot capped at the end of the linked YouTube video, hence the poor quality)
What I believe the argument here is that you can clearly see the beam emitting light and reflecting on the surroundings. 

Yes, you can, but the question is: why is this video in the game? Is it an easter egg or a hint at indoctrination?

There's no way to prove one way or the other what it is without them commenting on their intent.

Also, it's been days since I've seen the ending, so I honestly don't remember it very well (I just spammed X and picked my color)...if it's been altered, then, well, no

Modifié par GBGriffin, 21 mars 2012 - 04:28 .

[Wolven_Soul]

ryuasiu wrote...

    I have not seen any other posts on this, If there is sorry I just need to know if anyone else noticed this. Anyone else notice whats behind Shepard in the Shepard lives clip? Looks REALLY familiar doesn't it?

**Edit: so many are asking for screenshot, here is a video 
 

I can't see a beam, but I did hear something watching the video that  I have not before.  I heard a very strange whispering sound, the kind of sound you usually hear in movies when someone's mind is being messed with.

[Sovereign z]

CavScout wrote...

Sovereign z wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Huh. I noticed the whispers more than anything. Aren't whispers a pretty big thing for indoctrination etc?

I noticed the whispers the second time I played the ending. It actually helps convince myself that it was all just a dream.

I am sure it did since the video's author, surprisingly a indoctrination supporter, added them in.

That's BS, those whispers are in the end. I've got unaltered video evidence proving this. I played the end a second time just to see if I could find anything to support the Indoc theory. Give me a minute and I'll upload it.

[mumwaldee369]

Also, if you look closely...Shep has no head.

[shepskisaac]

Sovereign z wrote...

That's BS, those whispers are in the end. I've got unaltered video evidence proving this. I played the end a second time just to see if I could find anything to support the Indoc theory. Give me a minute and I'll upload it.

But the contrast/colors and brightness are manipulated

[RShara]

Sorry. No whispers, no blue glow. Metal groaning, smoke, and then a breath.