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[shadey]

Mitra wrote...

Ello, there is a dead reaper behind Shep! How can't you see that?

there's a bit of diffused red light that is obscured behind a rock.

nothing more

Modifié par shadey, 21 mars 2012 - 04:58 .

[Mitra]

Just look closely, whole vid for fragments of dead reaper machine, you can see it pretty clear.

[Canon 5D Mk III]

Let's all just step back for a second and ask ourselves...Why does that cinematic even exist? The only two answers I can think of is that it is indeed Shepard waking from her indoctrination, or just to arouse speculation--which ultimately just leads to the indoctrination theory anyway. I doubt Bioware would just throw that in there just for kicks and giggles, not to mention for only the Destroy option.

[ohbobsagetpiss]

mghjr6 wrote...

shadey wrote...

Jimbe2693 wrote...

Unaltered version:

that is so much different to the other video, no whipers, no blue effect

are indoc. theorists really getting that desperate they have to start fabricating videos.

Watch the whole thing before you criticize. It was never meant to deceive anyone.

Actually, from everything I've seen, indoctrination was originally planned as part of the ending, then scrapped as they got down to the wire. This would mean that lots of the evidence of the theorists is accurate, it was just never put into place in the end.

Unless the theorists are right, of course.

And IMO, that looks more like broken concrete, including rebar. I'm not saying I'm sure, I'm just saying that is not what broken metal looks like, and it IS suspiciously like concrete.

But does broken concrete=London? I don't see why it would. Also, why is there metal creaking in the backround? To me that suggests he's on the Citadel. I mean yeah, there's some metal structures in London too but i don't know how would've gotten to Earth. And i def don't belive he was being indoctrinated. 

[Qutayba]

Mitra wrote...

Ello, there is a dead reaper behind Shep! How can't you see that?

Hehe, poor Mitra, the voice calling in the wilderness.

I think it might be, but it's really hard to be sure.  If it is, that seems to suggest London, though whether that's before he goes up or after he beams down, if he beams down, remains unclear.

[LadyofRivendell]

Yeah, I'm seeing no Reaper. Just concrete, rubble, and dust.

[nevar00]

Um... I hate to say it, as I am one of those hoping the Indoctrination Theory is correct...

But all I see is part of a dead Reaper.

[CavScout]

ohbobsagetpiss wrote...

Sergeant Threat wrote...

Wow, indoctrination theorists are trying to pull people into their beliefs by doctoring the videos... that's pretty underhanded

I don't think it was meant to decieve people. He probably just added it to make it sound more dramatic. 

Of course the author, trying to push a specific point of view, wouldn't alter video to more closely support his theory.... no way!

[MrFob]

EDIT: Nah, never mind.

Modifié par MrFob, 21 mars 2012 - 05:05 .

[KingNothing125]

We are being trolled, severely.

[LadyofRivendell]

Canon 5D Mk III wrote...

Let's all just step back for a second and ask ourselves...Why does that cinematic even exist? The only two answers I can think of is that it is indeed Shepard waking from her indoctrination, or just to arouse speculation--which ultimately just leads to the indoctrination theory anyway. I doubt Bioware would just throw that in there just for kicks and giggles, not to mention for only the Destroy option.

...As much as I'd like to believe you, and as much as I really want the Indoc theory to be true, "SPECULATION FOR EVERYONE" is holding me back. Maybe that's the only reason they threw it in, to give us a reason to discuss and a false sense of hope.

[Militarized]

Why don't you tell me wtf I'm looking at instead of me shifting through 7 pages of you trying to be cute and going "LOOK!". Jesus.

[mghjr6]

Too many negative vibes here. Yes, some people seem to be grasping at straws, but the bigger problem in this thread is the snide comments of people who dislike the Indoc theory, who are going out of their ways to act like hecklers.

Better luck in the next thread.

[HairyMadDog1010]

Mitra wrote...

People, you don't get it that there is a dead reaper behind Shep?

To me it could be anything. Hovercar, Fighter ship, ect.

[Qutayba]

CavScout wrote...

Mitra wrote...

People, you don't get it that there is a dead reaper behind Shep?

Should probably try to trick people in a new thread not one where videos where just proven to be frauds...

I watched the whole video earlier.  They use lots of voiceovers and sound effects from other parts of the game - kind of like when you watch Ghost Hunters, you get creepy music added in.  I don't get the sense that any deception was intended.

[Dranume]

Mitra wrote...

Ahhh, but there is that other thing which is visible on the vid too, folks.
Do you see dead reaper itself here, in those rubble? I do. Look closely.



Fading red light, hit pause on 6:52 and you can see it on the right side.
reaper is dead. With alive Shep!
And that makes a whole new theory, not indoctrinated one.

I see the red light refference that you are talking about and to me, it looks like more of a lens flare effect.. I would think that the glowing red eye of a reaper would be more pronounced ....

Study the lighting flares and how they transistions... most likely a lens flare.

[nevar00]

Canon 5D Mk III wrote...
Let's all just step back for a second and ask ourselves...Why does that cinematic even exist? The only two answers I can think of is that it is indeed Shepard waking from her indoctrination, or just to arouse speculation--which ultimately just leads to the indoctrination theory anyway. I doubt Bioware would just throw that in there just for kicks and giggles, not to mention for only the Destroy option.

 The only two answers I can think of is that it is indeed Shepard waking from her indoctrination, or just to arouse speculation

just to arouse speculation

And a lot of it for everybody, right?

Modifié par nevar00, 21 mars 2012 - 05:04 .

[Mitra]

Dead reaper and Shep is "sitting" on his head. There are even parts of reaper body, curved shape, there is that fading red light. I can see it pretty clear. I'm sorry that most of the people don't see anything, just rubble. But, we all have our opinion

[ohbobsagetpiss]

Canon 5D Mk III wrote...

Let's all just step back for a second and ask ourselves...Why does that cinematic even exist? The only two answers I can think of is that it is indeed Shepard waking from her indoctrination, or just to arouse speculation--which ultimately just leads to the indoctrination theory anyway. I doubt Bioware would just throw that in there just for kicks and giggles, not to mention for only the Destroy option.

The same reason why you only find out Master-Chief lives after beating Halo 3 on legendary. People enjoy easter eggs like that. It's only in there for destroy because it is the only ending where Shep isn't turned to nothing by space magic. Is it really so hard?

[pharsti]

So, more about the theory which does not exist? Fun.

[Qutayba]

The glow is not in the original scene, but the rounded and angular black shiny things in the background are. Reaper? Reaper-tech? Random piece of rubble? Hard to say. Lots of Speculation!

[ryuasiu]

KingNothing125 wrote...

We are being trolled, severely.

Not trolling, I just booted up the game, went through that whole long process, took a screenshot with fraps, then circled it in MS paint. It has exact same textrue and shape as the corner edges of the beam.

[Rygonist]

Mitra wrote...

Dead reaper and Shep is "sitting" on his head. There are even parts of reaper body, curved shape, there is that fading red light. I can see it pretty clear. I'm sorry that most of the people don't see anything, just rubble. But, we all have our opinion

I see what you're referring to on the unaltered version, but I'm not entirely convincedi t's a repear. It looks far too small to be one. Unless the citadel somehow collided with a reaper and tore it to pieces.

[CavScout]

mghjr6 wrote...

Too many negative vibes here. Yes, some people seem to be grasping at straws, but the bigger problem in this thread is the snide comments of people who dislike the Indoc theory, who are going out of their ways to act like hecklers.

Better luck in the next thread.

 Pointing out a doctored video is not heckling.

[ohbobsagetpiss]

MrFob wrote...

Am I hallucinating? The glow definitely looks like it could come from the beam.

You're being indoctrinated irl.