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[Abirn]

Ok I see a lot of people attacking the OP but nobody is actually talking about how this isn't a classic case of false advertisement. If you take a look at the statements made by developers then it seems to be a pretty clear cut case of it.

[jackyboy666]

Seriously as upset I was at the end of the game, I don't think this is necessary. I think Bioware/EA are well aware that their fanbase is not pleased and I'm sure that to maintain their loyal fanbase they will release an Ending DLC.

I cant see them NOT doing it. The consequences would be too great IMO

[Farbautisonn]

Moondoggie wrote...

I'd say Bioware did a great job with ME3 regardless of your opinion of the ending.

-Thankfully what you say isnt objective or law. Its subjective. But thank you anyway.

[shurikenmanta]

Abirn wrote...

Ok I see a lot of people attacking the OP but nobody is actually talking about how this isn't a classic case of false advertisement. If you take a look at the statements made by developers then it seems to be a pretty clear cut case of it.

In terms of legality, I can see Bioware getting out of it fairly easily.

Prosecution: You said that the outcome would be shaped by your actions in the game! This is not true!

Defense: Actually our clients allow you to make three choices at how the game ends.

Prosecution: Um... er... but that's just the end! But nothing you do before that counts!

Defense: Actually a lot of what you do will determine your effective military strength, which determines the options available to you at the end and what exactly the outcome consists of. If you don't do the right things, you could have everything go horribly wrong, so technically yes, the choices you make in the game do determine the ending.

Prosecution: ...

Judge: Court finds in favour of Bioware.

Modifié par shurikenmanta, 21 mars 2012 - 01:38 .

[thunderhawk862002]

Is there any cases that actually made it to court specifically saying interviews do not fall under advertisement/ promotion of a product? Anyone? If not is is a legal gray area that needs cleaned up.

[TjM78]

wirelesstkd wrote...

This is why we can't have nice things.

Remember when the idea of something like this was so mockworthy is was a cartoon bit?

I loved that show

[Blastback]

Tazzmission wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

 heres my reaction to a lawsuit





aw man i needed a good chuckle i think the court has real issues to worry abought instead of a video game

$210 million just in physical sales, not to mention dlc and ce editions.  Yeah.  It's totally tiny.  It needs to be more like $500 million amirite?

i believe the courts are more worried about things like murderers id theft major stuff like that

i can honestly see an episode of judge judy taking this mass effect 3 case and i can see her telling the guy grow up and then kick him out and fine him for waisting the courts time

We've had succesful lawsuits about people who were upset that their coffee was hot. 

[wirelesstkd]

TjM78 wrote...

wirelesstkd wrote...

This is why we can't have nice things.

Remember when the idea of something like this was so mockworthy is was a cartoon bit?

I loved that show

For all five minutes that it was on the air, right?   Actually, IIRC, this episode was the first episode they aired, though oddly it wasn't the pilot. ABC kinda dropped the ball on that show...

[b00mQQ]

You're wasting your time. EA has a legal team big enough to take on the entire United States combined, let alone just a few members from the Mass Effect community. The trilogy ended, you didn't like the ending. Big deal. It happens every year with just about every video game released. What's done is done. It's time to move on.

[wirelesstkd]

Blastback wrote...

We've had succesful lawsuits about people who were upset that their coffee was hot. 

Okay - well, internet lawyer caveat aside, I think the point of that suit was the McDonald's served a product for human consumption that was actually so hot that it could not be consumed by a human. So that's a little different than, "the endings weren't different enough for my liking."

Just saying.

[Blastback]

wirelesstkd wrote...

Blastback wrote...

We've had succesful lawsuits about people who were upset that their coffee was hot. 

Okay - well, internet lawyer caveat aside, I think the point of that suit was the McDonald's served a product for human consumption that was actually so hot that it could not be consumed by a human. So that's a little different than, "the endings weren't different enough for my liking."

Just saying.

Still stupid.

[loungeshep]

Congratulations OP you are helping the view that gamers are self entitled socially inept whiny nerds, and the retake MAss Effect people are just spoiled entitlement geeks.

[RVallant]

wirelesstkd wrote...

Blastback wrote...

We've had succesful lawsuits about people who were upset that their coffee was hot. 

Okay - well, internet lawyer caveat aside, I think the point of that suit was the McDonald's served a product for human consumption that was actually so hot that it could not be consumed by a human. So that's a little different than, "the endings weren't different enough for my liking."

Just saying.

Iirc that "lawsuit" came up in the Eng+wales legal system and was profoundly dismissed as trivial.

[Blastback]

RVallant wrote...

wirelesstkd wrote...

Blastback wrote...

We've had succesful lawsuits about people who were upset that their coffee was hot. 

Okay - well, internet lawyer caveat aside, I think the point of that suit was the McDonald's served a product for human consumption that was actually so hot that it could not be consumed by a human. So that's a little different than, "the endings weren't different enough for my liking."

Just saying.

Iirc that "lawsuit" came up in the Eng+wales legal system and was profoundly dismissed as trivial.

I find that reasuring.

[loungeshep]

rodgerage wrote...


Honestly, that's what I call a cool story bro. Such a riveting tale, I honestly copy and pasted it to word, saved on my hard drive, backed it up on a jump drive, drove to the bank, put the jump drive in the safe deposit box, and will leave it there until my kids turn about 12 (when they can actually state their age, and ask what it is I'm showing them), then I will pick it up, put it in an old USB drive reader and relay this cool story to them and tell them, "kids, this is what a cool story should look and sound like...not like the stories your generation tells.

Best sarcastic post so far.

[Cancer Puppet]

Okay, I didn't like the ending. At all. But a lawsuit? Really? Do youself a favor and go for a nice long walk, try to apreciate life, and realize that if ME3 were the worst game ever it has no real impact on your life.

-polite

[LoneStorm]

Yes we get you're upset, no need to overeact as you might do and some people are doing.

People like you are making the 'RetakeME3/HoldTheLine' movement look bad.

[Abirn]

Blastback wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

 heres my reaction to a lawsuit





aw man i needed a good chuckle i think the court has real issues to worry abought instead of a video game

$210 million just in physical sales, not to mention dlc and ce editions.  Yeah.  It's totally tiny.  It needs to be more like $500 million amirite?

i believe the courts are more worried about things like murderers id theft major stuff like that

i can honestly see an episode of judge judy taking this mass effect 3 case and i can see her telling the guy grow up and then kick him out and fine him for waisting the courts time

We've had succesful lawsuits about people who were upset that their coffee was hot. 

Ok can we stop using this as an example of a frivilous lawsuit.  It gets brought up by every braindead moron who obviously didn't read anything about the case other than hurrr durrr coffee spilled.

[jess05]

But heres the thing, and Im not saying everyone go sue .. OK..


But, if a company of any kind makes promises, and the product you recieve is the complete opposite .. is that not False advertisement?
If everyone says .. Oh its just a game, or Tv, whatever it may be and says nothing about it ... they do it again.
next, another company says .. hmmm that works to bolster sales.

Next thing you know everyone does it.

At some point, you have to draw a line and say NO, give us what you promised.


Exactly how to handle it, Im not sure. But I do think it needs to be brought out.

Modifié par jess05, 21 mars 2012 - 01:57 .

[Abirn]

Blastback wrote...

wirelesstkd wrote...

Blastback wrote...

We've had succesful lawsuits about people who were upset that their coffee was hot. 

Okay - well, internet lawyer caveat aside, I think the point of that suit was the McDonald's served a product for human consumption that was actually so hot that it could not be consumed by a human. So that's a little different than, "the endings weren't different enough for my liking."

Just saying.

Still stupid.

Stupid and more to the point negligent is serving a beverage meant for human consumption at temperatures that it cannot be consumed it. 

[Solmanian]

If mcdonalds say theirs is the best burger in the world, and after I eat I think "it's good, but not the best in the world!", can I sue them for a million dollar?

[DJBare]

b00mQQ wrote...

You're wasting your time. EA has a legal team big enough to take on the entire United States combined, let alone just a few members from the Mass Effect community. The trilogy ended, you didn't like the ending. Big deal. It happens every year with just about every video game released. What's done is done. It's time to move on.

If they can afford to pay them www.google.co.uk/finance

[Solmanian]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

I'd say Bioware did a great job with ME3 regardless of your opinion of the ending.

-Thankfully what you say isnt objective or law. Its subjective. But thank you anyway.

I'd say "right back atcha".

[jess05]

Solmanian wrote...

If mcdonalds say theirs is the best burger in the world, and after I eat I think "it's good, but not the best in the world!", can I sue them for a million dollar?

NO.  Because thier oppion did not match yours, big deal.


BUT, lets say you love pickles.  You get that burger and there are no pickles on it. 

You were told it came with pickles, you wanted them, you paid for it, you expected it. 
Should you demand they give you your pickles?



2 different things here.

Modifié par jess05, 21 mars 2012 - 01:59 .

[spirosz]

Lol... I understand the hate for ending, but really?