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Kraykan82 wrote...

Only in America. This is getting beyond a joke now


Wrong, even in Europe you can go to trail for this.

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Devian wrote...

Kraykan82 wrote...

Only in America. This is getting beyond a joke now


Wrong, even in Europe you can go to trail for this.

It's still a frivolous lawsuit, no matter where you go. :)

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Zeratul20 wrote...

Devian wrote...

Kraykan82 wrote...

Only in America. This is getting beyond a joke now


Wrong, even in Europe you can go to trail for this.

It's still a frivolous lawsuit, no matter where you go. :)

Well, perhaps that is true, but he is still is his rights to try and a judge will then decide about the outcome.

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VolusvsReaper wrote...

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I propose something for you OP...how about you hand me the money you are going to waste, I take you out back, kick you in the nuts, and we call it a day?


-Threats of violence now? Thats grand. So guys... Is it ok if I use this quote to generalize the rest of the "endings are fine" group? I mean you seem to be pretty eager to lump everyone in the "endings are bad" movement in with the individuals considering legal action and sending off complaints the the FTC, so Fair is fair right? Right? 


Oh man a serious person raging? It was meant as a joke shame you have never see National Lampoons Vegas Vacation.


He did not rage at all.

And it's a shame that anone has seen that movie.

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If I am not mistaken this may be the complete opposite of what the player base wants. I understand trying to get their attention, but this is not "good" attention. This is the sort of thing that will get us nothing.

It has only been 3 weeks since the games release, what do people really expect Bioware to do in such a short amount of time.

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Can interview statements even be used as 'false' advertising?

I would have thought it would be restricted to actual pre-marketing release statements and videos et al prepped for the game. Interviews would fall under "work in progress" and would be exceptionally easy to get out of I would have thought?

*note: I'm not savvy on US Law, just English and Welsh law so...*

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Please do not pursue this course of action, the majority of us are upset by the games ending, but we are not out to destroy Bioware, we need them as much as they need us, there are now avenues opened up to return the product for a refund if you are dissatisfied, while I will not be returning my game, it's a better course of action than taking a legal route.

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First off you are hurting the reputation of people that wanted changes. Second unless you can prove interview statements have some sort of legally binding implications you arent going to win. You may not like the ending and im one of those but that is an opinion. For instance if you say i wanted choice and different endings they can say we provided three different endings, whether you agree they are different endings or not is irrelevant. You need to provide facts and failure to provide a service and i dont see anything like that here.

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I can't say don't do this, because it's your right to do so, but I urge you to reconsider your options before you go ahead. Taking action like this is irreversible, and it can just as easily be done after Bioware makes an announcement as to whether or not they will do anything about the ending.

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Kilshrek wrote...

I can't say don't do this, because it's your right to do so, but I urge you to reconsider your options before you go ahead. Taking action like this is irreversible, and it can just as easily be done after Bioware makes an announcement as to whether or not they will do anything about the ending.


-Any such announcement wont really be worth the time it took to write it up at this point. Bioware announced tweaks for DA2 and a revision for Deception. And then? Nothing. Nothing that kept the fans in the loop and told them what was going to be different and how. And we are supposed to take their naked word for it? I do not think so.

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Devian wrote...

You know, if he wanna take EA/Bioware to court let him, he is a free person that can do whatever he wants, why are we telling him that he is stupid, retarded and blabla.


Hang on a sec- he may be a free person and he can do what he wants, but we're also entitled to say whether we think it's a stupid idea or not. Majority of people have attacked the idea, not the person - and that's totally fair game.

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Farbautisonn wrote...

Kilshrek wrote...

I can't say don't do this, because it's your right to do so, but I urge you to reconsider your options before you go ahead. Taking action like this is irreversible, and it can just as easily be done after Bioware makes an announcement as to whether or not they will do anything about the ending.


-Any such announcement wont really be worth the time it took to write it up at this point. Bioware announced tweaks for DA2 and a revision for Deception. And then? Nothing. Nothing that kept the fans in the loop and told them what was going to be different and how. And we are supposed to take their naked word for it? I do not think so.


May I just add this:

They also haven't finished mopping up the bugs in DA:O and Awakening.

And they were going to release some expansion to DA2 also, I seem to remember?

It should be about finishing the job. I think Shepard would agree.

Modifié par L00p, 21 mars 2012 - 12:52 .


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Thinking you went to Irak to defend to freedom of speech. LOL.

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shurikenmanta wrote...

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Need i remind you that the main advert for ME3 is Retake Earth? Perhaps someone could refresh me on the part where we retake earth and not destroy it? Oh thats right we dont, its destroyed in every ending, either implied or directly.


Wow. I am totally going to sue everyone responsible for the Commander Keen games.

The Earth didn't explode, the Galaxy didn't go goodbye, and the Aliens sure as Hades didn't eat the babysitter!



The whole point of the game was to retake earth from the reapers.  The entire advert stressed this.  Also did you even bother to read my entire post? :lol:

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This is getting ridiculous..

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Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

Please, OP, take Bioware to court. Give EA a reason to kill the company. Please allow EA to destroy Mass Effect and turn it into the EA version of Halo. You're killing Bioware.


EA seems to be doing a pretty good job of killing Bioware without OP's help. 

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Trix-Rabbit wrote...

shurikenmanta wrote...

Trix-Rabbit wrote...

Need i remind you that the main advert for ME3 is Retake Earth? Perhaps someone could refresh me on the part where we retake earth and not destroy it? Oh thats right we dont, its destroyed in every ending, either implied or directly.


Wow. I am totally going to sue everyone responsible for the Commander Keen games.

The Earth didn't explode, the Galaxy didn't go goodbye, and the Aliens sure as Hades didn't eat the babysitter!



The whole point of the game was to retake earth from the reapers.  The entire advert stressed this.  Also did you even bother to read my entire post? :lol:


Of course I did. Just because I addressed one thing didn't mean I ignored the rest. I've addressed the old 'multiple endings' thing a billion times and have no wish to rehash that.

The point I am trying to make is that there are plenty of cases where the advertised 'goal' of the narrative is not what actually happens. Plots change, things that the player sets out to do may not be achieved. 'Take Earth back' is a slogan, not an iron-clad promise of the ending of the game.

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I knew this was coming. Lol none of you are even seriously thinking you'd win this is just another cry for attention. More empty threats you may as well start doing bomb threats against Bioware and EA buildings it would have the same effect as this.

As i recall when signing up to Origin and installing ME3 you agree to waive your right to the class action lawsuit so it could very well be a pointless waste of time before you even begin.

Personally i'm growing bored of this stuff anyway everytime a bunch of gamers are not happy with something now they want to do a "class action" with no real legal basis for it and they all get thrown out pretty quickly it's just egotistical attention seeking from a few people who want to get on TV.

You won't win, You'll be wasting a courts time that could be dealing with real cases even if you do get the case into court you'll just be wasting peoples time for childish reasons EA has all the lawyers and money in the world to take you on and find legal ways to get the case thrown out all you have is a bunch of angry people saying "We are suing you to get our own way!"

But of course none of this matters to you people. You don't care who's time you waste because in your own little bubbles only you and what you want matters.

It's gone beyond reasoning now to just simple kneejerk reactions and threats, Nothing constructive can come from anything but intelligent discussion. Threatening and bullying won't do anything.

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Get a life please, its a ****ing game  jesus christ

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Moondoggie wrote...
More empty threats you may as well start doing bomb threats against Bioware and EA buildings it would have the same effect as this.


I'm amazed some moron hasn't yet.

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class action lawsuit, not likely, it's hard enough to catch people actually guilty of a crime....

However, People simply want Bioware to be what it claims to be rather then a cheap imitation,
I love old Bioware titles, but Dragon Age 2 was their First Strike, Mass Effect 3 is their Second Strike....

People just want quality games because that's what they're paying for.

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DataPunk wrote...

Thinking you went to Irak to defend to freedom of speech. LOL.


Yes, God forbid he has earned the right to say what he feels in a forum.

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DevilSexton wrote...

class action lawsuit, not likely, it's hard enough to catch people actually guilty of a crime....

However, People simply want Bioware to be what it claims to be rather then a cheap imitation,
I love old Bioware titles, but Dragon Age 2 was their First Strike, Mass Effect 3 is their Second Strike....

People just want quality games because that's what they're paying for.


The thing is while most agree DA2 was sub par many feel ME3 was a high quality game with a poor ending. So does an ending sequance decide the full quality of a game?

I'd say Bioware did a great job with ME3 regardless of your opinion of the ending.

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DJBare wrote...

Please do not pursue this course of action, the majority of us are upset by the games ending, but we are not out to destroy Bioware, we need them as much as they need us, there are now avenues opened up to return the product for a refund if you are dissatisfied, while I will not be returning my game, it's a better course of action than taking a legal route.


I completely disagree. We don't need a company that lies and decieves. We have enough of them.

People are really oblivious to the fact that a corporation, besides economic responsibilities has social ones too.

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This is why we can't have nice things.

Remember when the idea of something like this was so mockworthy is was a cartoon bit?

Modifié par wirelesstkd, 21 mars 2012 - 01:30 .