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[wolfsite]

Dosen't bother me.

The people who choose the positive ways to protest there feelings on the matter are merely showing the passion they have for the story, characters, and series as a whole and merely want a better form of closure for the Shepard Trilogy.

[KingDan97]

android654 wrote...

Meh, leave 'em alone. They think they'll accomplish something? That's fine, it's not like they're actually doing anything to you. Why get so worked up over it?

Because they were accomplishing a lot before, and whatever they accomplish past this point is solely due to the rational discourse that took place at the beginning but every one of those hoo-rahing baffoons splurting out "Hold the line" as though every person's enjoyment of the product is an attack on their resolve is going to believe it was them personally when they actually they were probably part of what made EA say " So guys, maybe if we wait long enough they'll just tear each other to shreds?"

[Elhanan]

For some reason I keep visualizing a nursery full of infants and picket signs led by Baby Herman, yelling "It stinks like yesterday's diapars!!!"

But I have an active imagination; maybe I should demand a refund.....

[Dave of Canada]

Know what this thread needs? Five to six pages of back-to-back people saying "HOLD THE LINE".

[Khayness]

Cuthlan wrote...

This made me lol.

This is just a real-life portrayal of Misery.

I'm your number one fan!

If BioWare addresses the issue, it will create a new precedent (I don't remember an outrage of this magnitude pre-Broken Steel DLC), if not, then it's another point for the "games are art" crowd.

Again, I find it very interesting.

[bmwcrazy]

KingDan97 wrote...

It was one thing when we were trying to calmly get our point across, posting videos we could all find solace in that someone actually seems to understand our feelings on the ending and were all calmly relaying our thoughts to Bioware, but now all those involved in the retake Mass Effect movement take every opinion piece as a personal affront to themselves personally. There were even those who thought that the guy who filed the complaint to the FTC was a Bioware plant.

How paranoid can you get to think that every dissenting opinion is somehow an enemy?

This is a place I love, and I was really with you guys, but you have taken it too far frankly, you've taken something that I'd consider to even be noble because you were standing up for what you believe in but now you're just trying to tear down what everyone else thinks so you're opinion is the only one left standing.

Don't hold the line people, fall back because you clearly can't hold up this level of vitrol.

Of course, knowing the movement I'll be called out as a Bioware shill and they'll try to track me down to torture me until I admit my heracy.

Generalization much? You should calm down a bit, bro.

Most people are very respective about others opinions in the ME3 forums and there are certainly those who try to "tear down what everyone else thinks" in both pro-ending and anti-ending camp.

To me the Retake movement is simply about making donation to Child's Play to let Bioware know I want a better ending for ME3. That's it.

If you have problem with those bad apples, please try not to lump those individuals' action with the movement itself.

[Chromie]

chunkyman wrote...

Tell me fellow forumites, was it really as bad as everyone says it is?

Yes it was.

Elhanan wrote...
But I have an active imagination; maybe I should demand a refund.....

 

A refund for...Mass Effect 2?

Modifié par Skelter192, 21 mars 2012 - 05:01 .

[ADelusiveMan]

I hate the ending and think they should change it or at least expand it, so honestly I have no problem with the Retake ME3 movement. Filing with the FTC though is a bit overkill, I will admit.

Modifié par ADelusiveMan, 21 mars 2012 - 05:25 .

[Tazzmission]

yes im getting sick of them


if this was a forum with no rules i would really let them have it

i admit wile i do like the endings i think yea they can be better but to spam the forum everyday is getting out of controll

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

lol it is slightly pretentious with the name and slogans, and I would have said over the top, but if it might give us a better game why not? The Destructoid coverage of it is pretty funny, but do I wonder if it makes Biowariors or even all gamers look childish and immature, and the donations disingenuous.

[naughty99]

chunkyman wrote...

Tell me fellow forumites, was it really as bad as everyone says it is?

Personally I liked the synthesis ending.

[Rockworm503]

To be honest its the people who verbally attack us then call us childish bullies in the same breath that I'm sick of

[TheBlackBaron]

greengoron89 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I hope you don't mind me quoting this and sending it to another thread (http://social.biowar...dex/10371216/14 )

Also, was that last part a pony reference?

Nah, it's fine as long as I don't actually have to be present for the discussion. LOL.

Not sure what you mean by pony reference - I'm certainly no fan of MLP. In fact, I left you guys a "surprise" on page 588 of the official thread. Muahahaha.

EDIT: Just now realized I got the page number wrong. I fixed it now - do be sure to check it out.

The carniverous Apple family is -old-, dude. Been posted at least twice before. 

PresidentCowboy wrote...

Lots of them are overly negative I think, like judging the whole game on the ending, taking anything Bioware says as just lies and PR talk, etc.

It doesn't help that they've got people thinking they're Hans Gruber, using this suppossed PR playbook against them. 

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 21 mars 2012 - 10:07 .

[ObserverStatus]

Yes, the retakers should find something better to do with their time.

[Zeroth Angel]

Nope i'm not getting sick of them.

[Lenimph]

I'm really sick of the retakers myself, when it comes down to it this is a video game, a creation of other people's thoughts and ideas, made into something that is there merely to entertain us, and it is not our decision as to how it ends.

Yes the ending as it stands now is bad, but it wouldn't be the first time something great ended with something bad and even if they change the ending not everyone is going to happy in the end. It's just impossible.

Filament wrote...

The ones who aren't taking it too seriously, I don't mind. The ones treating this "hold the line" crap like it's actual military bravado, and bashing people over the head over how magnanimous they are for charity, and bringing up complaints to the better business bureau/FTC/class action lawsuits... yeah. Definitely sick of them.

 

The charity thing is what gets me the most, as if using sick kids justifies their cause.  It's disgusting. 

Modifié par Lenimph, 21 mars 2012 - 10:23 .

[Zjarcal]

Filament wrote...

The ones who aren't taking it too seriously, I don't mind. The ones treating this "hold the line" crap like it's actual military bravado, and bashing people over the head over how magnanimous they are for charity, and bringing up complaints to the better business bureau/FTC/class action lawsuits... yeah. Definitely sick of them.

This... so... much... f'n... this.

Lenimph wrote...

I'm really sick of the retakers myself, when it comes down to it this is a video game, a creation of other people's thoughts and ideas, made into something that is there merely to entertain us, and it is not our decision as to how it ends. 

 

And this.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 21 mars 2012 - 10:19 .

[Addai]

I keep getting Hold the Line mixed up with End of Line. Can't keep my BSNisms straight.

[Costin_Razvan]

Zjarcal: Pretty much, one thing is to for you to dislike a product personally, to despise a game's story on a personal level, to utterly hate it.

But to actually intitate legal action because of this? Really?

I have major problems with Bioware, but this is too ****ing far.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 21 mars 2012 - 10:44 .

[Zanallen]

I was sick of them before they started up...

[Mr.House]

Yes we have some bad apples that are taking things to far, but in the end we are consumers. We where given a promise, a promise Bioware failed to deliver and create an ending that destroyed a series that I grew to love for five years in five minutes. I read the leak script, I saw the original perfect ending and you know what? I would have been fine with it but they cut that out and gave us the same ending that is downright depression and in the end gives me this. Why did I invest five years of my life? Why did I connect to these characters? The ending just leaves me with more questions and a bad taste in my mouth and ruisn what would be, a fanatstic game, the endign turns ME3 into an ok game because of the ending.

People ask why are endings such a big deal, the answer is closure. ME3 is the end of the Reaper and Shepards story. This is not ME or ME2 which could do an ending like this and get away with it because we knew there was going to be another game, that's not the case with ME3. We got no closure, the galaxy is in a horrible state and what they did to Shepard in the last ten minutes was just disgusting. Had Bioware been straight with us from the very beginning that five years of investment would be for naught I would never have gotten into the series, they stringed us along and gave us the finger. Some might not think that, some like the ending but alot of people do feel that way.

[bleetman]

Hey, if people are comfortable with accepting 'eh, it's alright, could be worse?', more power to them.

Lenimph wrote...

The charity thing is what gets me the most, as if using sick kids justifies their cause.  It's disgusting. 

Gee, thanks. Not remotely the point, but don't let me get in the way of all this moral high-horsing thing that everyone's got going towards the whole donation drive aspect. I wouldn't want to spoil their fun.

Y'know what I think? Child's Play has, in the past, rejected donations from sources with questionable motivations. Yet here, they're apparently perfectly willing to take the donations we're giving them. And if the actual charity is fine with it, who the hell is anyone else to say otherwise. But then, I'm just a disgusting, exploitative whiner with ulterior motives, apparently.

Modifié par bleetman, 21 mars 2012 - 11:12 .

[vometia]

chunkyman wrote...

Tell me fellow forumites, was it really as bad as everyone says it is?

I guess I should give it the benefit of a few months' hindsight before I describe it along the lines of "my worst gaming experience", but, yes, it was pretty bad.